Changes v West Coat - Round 22

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1 hour ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Of which he only had 1 inside 50, zero goal assists, 2 clearances and kicked 0.0. He does no damage at all with what little of the ball he gets.

7 of those 14 disposals were part of scoring chains. 

[WERRIDEE 5,479]

2 hours ago, Fifty-5 said:

Yep Hib, Weed, Melk and Kent for Hunt, Hogan, Pedo and Spargo.

Get rid of that list clogger JKH for Hannan and we have the right side to take on Meth Coast.

[DV8 2,271]

1 hour ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Prefer Jeffy or Spargo rested and JKH staying in

Otherwise good

A bigger expanse of space to cover.  I think JKH stays in for his run _

Melky obv's in.

Hibbo obv's in.

Weide in for Hogan.

Kent in or Hannan in ???   I would like to see Kent on the bigger ground, in his home state.

- - - - -

I think Spargo goes out, with Fritta...   Both fatigued.    IF we get in, we'll need both boys fit and mentally freshened in 2 weeks time.

Garlett on thin ice,  did not contest a mark in the goal square in the 3rd...  allowed the Swans a simple mark and clear the ball, without any earning it at all. He hoped the swan player would simply drop the mark. ?

 

With that, i'm unsure of Hunt, maybe stays for one more on the big spacious ground ?

I would keep Pedo in for cover, both down back and following...  and can help Weide out if necessary.  Pedo knows Weides game well.

 

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7 minutes ago, DV8 said:

A bigger expanse of space to cover.  I think JKH stays in for his run _

Melky obv's in.

Hibbo obv's in.

Weide in for Hogan.

Kent in or Hannan in ???   I would like to see Kent on the bigger ground, in his home state.

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I think Spargo goes out, with Fritta...   Both fatigued.    IF we get in, we'll need both boys fit and mentally freshened in 2 weeks time.

Garlett on thin ice,  did not contest a mark in the goal square in the 3rd...  allowed the Swans a simple mark and clear the ball, without any earning it at all. He hoped the swan player would simply drop the mark. ?

 

With that, i'm unsure of Hunt, maybe stays for one more on the big spacious ground ?

I would keep Pedo in for cover, both down back and following...  and can help Weide out if necessary.  Pedo knows Weides game well.

 

If we want to lose keep JKH in. He gives us nothing.

Hunt is injured.

Pedo was hopeless at doing that last week what would make you think he'd do a better job this week? Another list clogger must go.

[Demons11 7,032]

1 hour ago, JV7 said:

Not keen on Weideman replacing Hogan. He hasn't shown anything in his games this year he's ready... As bad as Pedersen was I'd keep him in to releave TMac of ruck duties. I wouldn't mind seeing Hannan back into the side, he's a proven goal kicker. Play Petracca as a permanent forward also. 

In: Hannan, Melksham, Hibberd

Out: Hogan, JKH, Spargo

I’d prefer Weed over Pedo.   The kid just needs some confidence in the seniors.  If he has a break out game it will be a massive boost. 

In:  Hannan, Weed, Melky, Hibberd

Out: Vanders, Hogan, Hunt and Pedo. 

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20 minutes ago, DV8 said:

A bigger expanse of space to cover.  I think JKH stays in for his run _

Melky obv's in.

Hibbo obv's in.

Weide in for Hogan.

Kent in or Hannan in ???   I would like to see Kent on the bigger ground, in his home state.

- - - - -

I think Spargo goes out, with Fritta...   Both fatigued.    IF we get in, we'll need both boys fit and mentally freshened in 2 weeks time.

Garlett on thin ice,  did not contest a mark in the goal square in the 3rd...  allowed the Swans a simple mark and clear the ball, without any earning it at all. He hoped the swan player would simply drop the mark. ?

 

With that, i'm unsure of Hunt, maybe stays for one more on the big spacious ground ?

I would keep Pedo in for cover, both down back and following...  and can help Weide out if necessary.  Pedo knows Weides game well.

 

Vanders has to go out.  He was suppose to play on Allir Allir on Sunday and he tore us apart.

[Deecisive 1,709]

While Hogan is a loss we have won without him before, sometimes even done better without him because we often look for him too often and when he is not playing well that means a lot of opposition rebounds.  Time to give weed ago, he is our future and will learn a lot more from the experience and than pedo, who is unlikely to be on our list next year. Giving weed's a couple of important games and possibly finals may spur him on to do better.

 

 

[Deecisive 1,709]

21 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

JKH was drafted at pick 40 back 6 years ago. He's 24 years old next season, and in the oldest 1/3 of players on the list now. He's hasn't had an injury since 2016, so has had plenty of time to build his endurance and strength. He's simply not up to it. As a club, these are the types of players we need to move on quicker from the list. They should only be kept for depth if lacking in a specific area.

 

The changes for this week should be:

In - Hibberd, Melksham, Kent

Out - Hunt, Pedo, Spargo

True he is older than some players, how old was Jetta when he was swung into the backline as his last chance to prove himself. 

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13 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Vanders has to go out.  He was suppose to play on Allir Allir on Sunday and he tore us apart.

He tore us apart because we refused to kick to avb’s advantage. And avb still kicked 3... With Hogan out, avb isn’t going anywhere.

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3 minutes ago, rpfc said:

He tore us apart because we refused to kick to avb’s advantage. And avb still kicked 3... With Hogan out, avb isn’t going anywhere.

I agree the delivery to him was very average but I assume his job was to take Allir away from the play and this didn’t happen. 

You might be right though and they might have another go at it with him on McGovern. 

[D4Life 2,476]

6 hours ago, demon_fanatic said:

i still don't get why Hannan isn't in our best 22?? very poised around goal and a natural footballer.. pretty sure he doesn't have the yips in front of goal too often... Weed or Pedo is tough one... Pedo could maybe stay in and be used to stay exclusively on Mcgovern and to force a contest anytime he goes near it... i fear if Weed plays down there Mcgovern will be too strong and poised and cut off every long bomb.

Think Kent/Hannan/Melksham/Hibberd are definite must ins for HUNT SPARGO HOGAN NEAL BULLEN but no way bullen loses his spot lol

Hannan can be very good, but goes missing a lot, that’s why he isn’t in the team!

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If some of us think we will be a better side without Hogan then trading him is not such a bad idea. If the Hogan factor is partially responsible for our lack of goals,then why not turn him into a defender.

[bobby1554 1,244]

27 minutes ago, Deecisive said:

While Hogan is a loss we have won without him before, sometimes even done better without him because we often look for him too often and when he is not playing well that means a lot of opposition rebounds.  Time to give weed ago, he is our future and will learn a lot more from the experience and than pedo, who is unlikely to be on our list next year. Giving weed's a couple of important games and possibly finals may spur him on to do better.

 

 

Forget about Weideman, my intel is that he will be seeking a trade to Geelong at seasons end. A very close relative of mine knows him

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2 minutes ago, ENYAW said:

If some of us think we will be a better side without Hogan then trading him is not such a bad idea. If the Hogan factor is partially responsible for our lack of goals,then why not turn him into a defender.

We are highest scoring team in the comp. There is nothing wrong with Hogan or our goal kicking.  

[Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,778]

Goody has deferred to stability over past few weeks

Perhaps minimum changes?

In: Melksham, Hibberd

Out: Hogan, Hunt

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59 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

Vanders has to go out.  He was suppose to play on Allir Allir on Sunday and he tore us apart.

You would drop a bloke who actually kicked goals (3) instead of points??

Seriously??

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28 minutes ago, bobby1554 said:

Forget about Weideman, my intel is that he will be seeking a trade to Geelong at seasons end. A very close relative of mine knows him

Ok we will take Hawkins.. sounds like a fair trade! Eh??

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1 minute ago, picket fence said:

You would drop a bloke who actually kicked goals (3) instead of points??

Seriously??

Do you really think he played a good game?

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1 minute ago, Demons11 said:

Do you really think he played a good game?

He kicked 3 goals HELLLLLO ! FORGET about good games , he nailed goals while others MISSED!

So.. You want to replace him with????

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20 minutes ago, picket fence said:

He kicked 3 goals HELLLLLO ! FORGET about good games , he nailed goals while others MISSED!

So.. You want to replace him with????

Yes.  

I commend him for making it back but I don’t think he is very good.

[buck_nekkid 5,879]

1 hour ago, bobby1554 said:

Forget about Weideman, my intel is that he will be seeking a trade to Geelong at seasons end. A very close relative of mine knows him

Worked well for Mitch Clark

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I'll be fascinated to see how many changes we make this week. I've read a stat about teams having a very low chance of winning if they have more than three changes. I reckon there's something to keeping the team together for chemistry reasons, but on the other hand most good sides/teams in good form simply don't need to make more than three changes, so I don't know if the link is causal.

Hogan and Hunt are out with injuries and Hibberd and Melksham are best 22, so there are two easy changes.

Surely Spargo must be dropped, and that takes us to three changes. He had an absolute 'mare on the weekend, and I blame the selection panel - he should have been omitted weeks ago. Hannan and Kent are waiting in the wings, and although Hannan was the 'carry over' emergency it's now been a while since he's played and Kent seemingly had a good game at Casey.

I also think JKH was horrible on the weekend, and I reckon he has been on thin ice since he nabbed a spot in the team due to injuries, so I'd say bringing in the other of Hannan or Kent for JKH would make us stronger.

There's also what we do with Pedo, and whether he takes Hogan's KPF spot. If we bring in Weid (who, based on Casey match reports, is ahead of Tim Smith ATM), I think Pedo gets the chop and then there's at least three changes - but quite possibly four or five.

1 hour ago, DV8 said:

A bigger expanse of space to cover.  I think JKH stays in for his run _

[...] With that, i'm unsure of Hunt, maybe stays for one more on the big spacious ground ?

Isn't Optus Stadium pretty much the same size as the MCG?

Anyway, Hunt's out injured.

1 hour ago, D4Life said:

Hannan can be very good, but goes missing a lot, that’s why he isn’t in the team!

He was out of the side with a 'jarred knee' a few weeks back and due to injury he hasn't played any footy since then. This week he was fit to play, but we elected to make just two changes to a side who had a big win last week. He didn't play at Casey, because he was the 'carry over' emergency.

I also think that what we might see as 'go missing' is actually 'playing injured'. I'm keen to see what he can do next year, if he can get his body right.

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1 hour ago, Demons11 said:

Vanders has to go out.  He was suppose to play on Allir Allir on Sunday and he tore us apart.

Vanders on Alir was a crappy match up.

AVB was never going to beat him in the air the way it was bombed in. It was almost like we were passing it to Alir for most of the day.

[John Demonic 5,816]

15 minutes ago, buck_nekkid said:

Worked well for Mitch Clark

Collingwood were the only winners in that 3-way with Varcoe still playing. So with that in mind, maybe we should request one of their high draft pick young indigenous players. Nakia Cockatoo perhaps.

Edited August 14, 2018 by johndemonic

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2 hours ago, DV8 said:

 

 

With that, i'm unsure of Hunt, maybe stays for one more on the big spacious ground ?

 

 

You did see Hunt limp off? You do know he is out for 2-4 weeks? You still considering him for this week?