Ollie Wines

[DeeSpencer 26,098]

1 hour ago, A F said:

I was speaking to a mate whose cousin is an up and comer at one of the big Melbourne based clubs and apparently many of the year 1 to 4 players are on between $150-250k, even with the new CBA. So I reckon our figures are all out of whack here. It's not as high as we'v always thought.

Base wage this year is 80k for players drafted 40+, 90k for players drafted 1-20. With $4000 match payments and $3000 bonus for ever 5 games played. So pretty much it's close to 200k if you play every game.

3rd, 4th and pretty much until a player establishes themselves are probably the hardest players to know what kind of deal they are on. Minimum is 105k with 4,300 match payment but you'd think clubs would go well above minimum for anyone who's played a few games in the first 2 years.

Salary cap is 12.5 million. Which fits with the average wage of just over 300k. Given there's a lot of depth and youth at most clubs who make less than the average I think teams can squeeze in a few big contracts ie. 750k+ and can have a lot of solid players making 400-500. I think where the media reporting and guess work goes wrong is for the players who are allegedly signing deals worth 550, 600, 700 etc. My guess is a lot of those deals are very incentive based and they work out a lot lower than reported. 

[Ron Burgundy 8,585]

7 hours ago, ENYAW said:

The dees should send ollie an appology for not picking him over the spud doupas. He was "neelded". Who could we off load to port,ANB,Stretch,Melksham,Vince,Wagner,Kennedy Harris,Kent  etc. More Mongrel bring it on !!!!!. 

Should possibly also send a letter to Rory Sloane over the debacle over pick 35 in his draft too.

 

[Skuit 10,031]

18 hours ago, stevethemanjordan said:

Non-story imo.

I heard Tom McDonald say the same thing last contract.

But would they both be saying the same thing if they had to walk a mile in each other's shoes? I have no idea, but we should put it to the test. Straight swap seems fair.

[jnrmac 20,213]

19 hours ago, Hot as Hell said:

The Ollie ship sailed by us years ago. We chose Jimmy's dingy instead.

I suspect OW was gutted by his rejection by our lowly club and it would take 2 lifetimes for him to ever look at us again, except in contempt.

Demons fans looking for a goldilocks contract outcome may be very disappointed.

In my view we need to move on, just as we had to do with Liam J.

What an exciting team we could have had, IF ONLY (those two fateful words) 

 

And we chose Jurrah as a rookie ahead of Rockliff who we had 'promised' a spot to......

Man, we stuffed up some recruiting......

[Cards13 9,117]

21 hours ago, picket fence said:

Gaaawd how some here like to pick scabs, fester and create more open wounds.

We had our chance drafted an absolute Dud in Toumpas and blew to the shizen a golden opportunity.

Horse has bolted GONE NEVER TO RETURN

[picket fence 17,755]

I personally use stainless steel!

[What 18,810]

Viney, Wines, Oliver, Petracca.....        my lord, we would absolutely crush teams around the ball.  It would be a bloodbath

[Ethan Tremblay 31,170]

11 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

Viney, Wines, Oliver, Petracca.....        my lord, we would absolutely crush teams around the ball.  It would be a bloodbath

Make.It.Happen

[beelzebub 23,388]

2 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Make.It.Happen

That combo would SCARE teams

delicious

[FarNorthernD 5,861]

4 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

Viney, Wines, Oliver, Petracca.....        my lord, we would absolutely crush teams around the ball.  It would be a bloodbath

Coming into the 2019 season Viney and Wines will be just 24 y.o, Petracca 23 and Oliver 21. Seven years of fearsomeness to follow. 

[deebug 1,754]

Hell yes 

[Wiseblood 24,637]

12 hours ago, jnrmac said:

And we chose Jurrah as a rookie ahead of Rockliff who we had 'promised' a spot to......

Man, we stuffed up some recruiting......

Everyone has at some point.  It's the nature of the beast.

We're the best at constantly bringing it up, though.

[Sigil 1,001]

10 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Make.It.Happen

I agree...

Where are the dollar bills at tho?

[Sideshow Bob 2,451]

1 hour ago, Sigil said:

I agree...

Where are the dollar bills at tho?

i hear Zurich knows a thing or 2 about untraceable Swiss bank accounts..... who the hell needs a visy paper bag

[Ethan Tremblay 31,170]

22 minutes ago, jako13 said:

i hear Zurich knows a thing or 2 about untraceable Swiss bank accounts..... who the hell needs a visy paper bag

Zurich can just employ him like Woodside did for a recently retired Docker.

Edited February 14, 2018 by Ethan Tremblay

[MurDoc516 1,529]

We couldn't offer Port anything worth while unless we dump Hogan. I accepted a while ago that Hogan was going to head home and then he went and signed a new deal, i think we should repay that loyalty and not force him out so we can get a new shiny player. 

I'd also rather save cap space so we can secure the guns we got already. If Petracca and Oliver continue to develop everyone in the comp will be throwing big money at them, so we need to be prepared. 

Finally, Tyson isn't an A grade midfielder, but he does work and seems commited to the club. You can't have 22 great players and i am quite happy with his contribution (Maybe he could kick a bit better) and i think he is in our best 22 everyday of the week.

[faultydet 7,623]

2 hours ago, MurDoc516 said:

We couldn't offer Port anything worth while unless we dump Hogan. I accepted a while ago that Hogan was going to head home and then he went and signed a new deal, i think we should repay that loyalty and not force him out so we can get a new shiny player. 

I'd also rather save cap space so we can secure the guns we got already. If Petracca and Oliver continue to develop everyone in the comp will be throwing big money at them, so we need to be prepared. 

Finally, Tyson isn't an A grade midfielder, but he does work and seems commited to the club. You can't have 22 great players and i am quite happy with his contribution (Maybe he could kick a bit better) and i think he is in our best 22 everyday of the week.

Great post. Agree with every word.

We have our star in Oliver. He is going to be one of the best in the competition in the next few years, and will be offered Federal Reserve money from other clubs.

Would love to see Wines in the Red & Blue, and my god our midfield would be intimidating, but just cant see where the funds would come from.

Watch for Norf to offer 1.5m p.a over 7 years, fail to get a bite, and for Wines to re-sign with Port.

 

@ding What are your connections saying?

[ding 5,126]

His family ( old man in particular ) hate our club for overlooking him last time we had the chance. We said we were gonna pick him but obviously didnt. 

MFC are not likely to be much of a chance even if he does want to leave.  

Dont have anything more than that but i do keep asking the question of my source   

[Ethan Tremblay 31,170]

His old man sounds like a child. 

[ding 5,126]

Just now, Ethan Tremblay said:

His old man sounds like a child. 

Nah sounds more like he was just very disappointed that his lad didnt go to MFC. He really did want us to pick Ollie.

Our fault, not his i think.

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,522]

18 minutes ago, ding said:

Nah sounds more like he was just very disappointed that his lad didnt go to MFC. He really did want us to pick Ollie.

Our fault, not his i think.

Why would he have wanted his son at the MFC 2013???

He should be thanking his lucky stars that we passed on him and he has gone on to play plenty of finals football in front of huge parochial fans at a great new stadium.  Maybe he could be filthy with the Bulldogs who passed on Ollie twice and have won a flag in that time.

[Sir Why You Little 37,244]

Put the right contract in front of him and 2013 is just a memory...

if the MFC wants Wines, we should chase him hard

 

[Demon trucker 1,800]

2 hours ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Why would he have wanted his son at the MFC 2013???

He should be thanking his lucky stars that we passed on him and he has gone on to play plenty of finals football in front of huge parochial fans at a great new stadium.  Maybe he could be filthy with the Bulldogs who passed on Ollie twice and have won a flag in that time.

That's right players don't give it another thought who passed them, bulldogs had 2 chances of getting him.

[Demons1858 1,772]

a player seap and 1 of 2 first round picks we gave to adel for lever would be handy came the end if the year. 

[Moonshadow 17,678]

9 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

His old man sounds like a child. 

Agreed if true. Have no idea if we are making a play, but regardless, hating a club for not picking his son is plain stupid and not in his son's best interests