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  On 23/12/2017 at 12:20, Pennant St Dee said:

The complainant hasn't made a statement as per Vicpol release.

I like everybody else on Demonland is in the dark on a lot of the details.

The female involved may have not even reported it, I have seen it happen before when what is referred to as the early complainant makes the report.

IMO it's best for all involved to just let it run its course 

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My understanding from all the various statements/press releases is:

MFC became aware of situation
MFC informed AFL integrity 
AFL integrity informed Vic Police
Vic Police interviewed female involved
Female involved has not made a statement/complaint

Question - can the AFL integrity inform the Vic Police without the complainant consent (is this even ethical)

* Note the situation could be damning and worth being hung, drawn and quartered over; embarrassing (aka the rugby league player incident where the female took on a group but said no to one); or a fabrication (intentional or not).  Due process and respect must run it's course otherwise in each of these situations the victim (it differs according to the scenario) suffers even more.  We should show respect and not judge until the Facts are known (if ever).

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  On 24/12/2017 at 02:05, Ungarie boy said:

My understanding from all the various statements/press releases is:

MFC became aware of situation
MFC informed AFL integrity 
AFL integrity informed Vic Police
Vic Police interviewed female involved
Female involved has not made a statement/complaint

Question - can the AFL integrity inform the Vic Police without the complainant consent (is this even ethical)

* Note the situation could be damning and worth being hung, drawn and quartered over; embarrassing (aka the rugby league player incident where the female took on a group but said no to one); or a fabrication (intentional or not).  Due process and respect must run it's course otherwise in each of these situations the victim (it differs according to the scenario) suffers even more.  We should show respect and not judge until the Facts are known (if ever).

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not sure your chronology is correct

i got the impression the female first approached vicpol in a non-formal way, which started the chain of events

of course, may be wrong in this 

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  On 24/12/2017 at 01:54, daisycutter said:

so you want to play hypotheticals about "some truth",  "probable",  "in real trouble"?

life is not always neat, fair, or just in all situations to all concerned

let the process play out and don't torture yourself over something you know next to nothing about, and have no control over

this issue was (reportedly) raised nearly 3 months ago and as far as we know nothing has happened since

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I'm not losing any sleep over this DC,  but if there was no substance to the allegation/s or as some would say "on the minor end of the scale", you would think we would of had either a statement from the club saying "nothing to see here move on" or an apology from the player involved. The longer this goes on lends itself to the thought that maybe something serious has occurred (obviously we all hope nothing has). As a paid up member of the club for many years I reserve the right to hypothesize on this matter with regards to a potential outcome the same as who I believe will be in our starting line up come round 1.

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Apart from one poor article the only place I’ve heard anything more about this matter is here. 

Beyond me why posters would be asking for the player to apologise at this stage knowing what very little we know.

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  On 24/12/2017 at 02:34, old dee said:

Amazing 10 pages about something we know next to nothing about.

Amazing!

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If all the people that commented "I'm not going to comment until something more comes to light" didn't comment we'd be at about 4 pages.

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  On 23/12/2017 at 12:20, Pennant St Dee said:

The complainant hasn't made a statement as per Vicpol release.

I like everybody else on Demonland is in the dark on a lot of the details.

The female involved may have not even reported it, I have seen it happen before when what is referred to as the early complainant makes the report.

IMO it's best for all involved to just let it run its course 

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Already one of my favourite posters. Even more respect now that I know what you do/did for a living.

You too, @Ethan Tremblay.

Much props.

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I don't know how anyone can do that work for a living - I've had to read some reports of things here and there in my line of work and even reading about what these guys deal with makes me sick. Respect to anyone who can do it full time.

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  On 23/12/2017 at 12:07, Dante said:

JHC, if he’s innocent he doesn’t have to do anything, you have to be proven guilty, not prove your innocence. Where do you get your knowledge of the law from?

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Unless there is a reversed onus of proof......just sayin’

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  On 24/12/2017 at 04:36, Dr. Gonzo said:

I don't know how anyone can do that work for a living - I've had to read some reports of things here and there in my line of work and even reading about what these guys deal with makes me sick. Respect to anyone who can do it full time.

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My wife works in the same area but with children. I often hear some of the appalling stories.

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  On 24/12/2017 at 02:44, A F said:

Already one of my favourite posters. Even more respect now that I know what you do/did for a living.

You too, @Ethan Tremblay.

Much props.

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Cheers AF (Great initials by the way)

21 and a half years now

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  On 24/12/2017 at 02:34, old dee said:

Amazing 10 pages about something we know next to nothing about.

Amazing!

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You could possibly add a few more pages if the train stayed on the tracks.

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We are not the Judge,Jury and Executioner as we wern't present during the incident.Remember when a 14 yr old called goodes an ape,it was funny how Lisa Wilkins partner Fitzsimmons got in on the act and told everyone it was un-Australian etc.Yet fitzy referred to a dark skin bouncer as a guerilla. To top it off fitzy tried to palm it off as a non racist remark. Personally some us are too sensitive for our own good,you see apes and guerillas getting upset  we refer them to homo sapiens!!!!!!

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  On 25/12/2017 at 01:38, ENYAW said:

We are not the Judge,Jury and Executioner as we wern't present during the incident.Remember when a 14 yr old called goodes an ape,it was funny how Lisa Wilkins partner Fitzsimmons got in on the act and told everyone it was un-Australian etc.Yet fitzy referred to a dark skin bouncer as a guerilla. To top it off fitzy tried to palm it off as a non racist remark. Personally some us are too sensitive for our own good,you see apes and guerillas getting upset  we refer them to homo sapiens!!!!!!

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Wonderfully coherent, reasonable and relevant as always, ENYAW.

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No ads for Bush lawyers please we are overrun with them.

Amazing you can read 10 pages and only read half a dozen posts. They all say the same thing.

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I am not going to make any comment on this whatsoever, Just a "No Comment" will be the only comment I make! 

Gee I'm glad I trusted my instincts over this one :rolleyes:

 

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