Changes v Adelaide

[jnrmac 18,980]

36 minutes ago, Biffen said:

A 30 metre run and a 45 metre floater gets us half way up the ground.

Not sure my heart could take it!

[dee-tox 4,827]

3 hours ago, Jaded said:

 

If Tyson and Watts are fit, I would drop Pedo and Melksham

I know they won't actually drop Melksham, but I can't deal with him as a footballer. He is awful! 

Melksham is the main tagger these days. Gibbs was pretty much ineffective as was Pendlebury and many others. Hitting the scoreboard with crucial goals has been a bonus.

[DemonWA 3,438]

Dont think Watts will be right for this week. Also hoping that the NT ground is a leveler as we need a full squad to really push the crows i think

In: Tyson, Trengove, Kennedy

Out: Stretch, Smith, Kent

[Diamond_Jim 11,774]

For those pushing for Kennedy over Kent I would be interested in why.

To some extent I could understand JKH but in reality they are three players at the same level.

If anything Kent is ranked a little higher based on some of his performances last year. Kent is now feeling the pace of senior football and should get another game.

If JKH or Kennedy were demonstrably better or offered something else I could understand but they are all thereabouts.

Interesting that many of those pushing for Kent to be dropped are not saying the same about Smith who on any score did very little.

Trenners is no longer an option I am afraid.

Edited July 10, 2017 by Diamond_Jim

[Biffen 12,327]

45 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

Not sure my heart could take it!

i cant handle Bernie ignoring long options and then watching his thought process......

"I'll just chip it in the middle of three opponents about 40m out,directly in front,yeah ,,,"

[Willmoy1947 3,780]

6 minutes ago, Biffen said:

i cant handle Bernie ignoring long options and then watching his thought process......

"I'll just chip it in the middle of three opponents about 40m out,directly in front,yeah ,,,"

Yep, i reckon he thinks like me when i could play tennis, always went for the ridiculous shot instead of playing the %'s.

[Willmoy1947 3,780]

In Darwin i would put JKH and Kent in, and give them both a good run in the heat.....

[DeeSpencer 23,134]

Tyson probably comes in on a wing for Stretch who's just a bit up and down at the moment, not sure he's confident. Another stint in the VFL might get him right for the back end of the year when the ball movement flows better because I still think he's a lock and play guy on a wing.

Makes us slow through the wings with Tyson and Lewis holding them down and maybe Melky and Harmes going through their but that's ok.

Joel Smith gets another week, the back 7 did the job well enough and we may as well give him another go. He'll be a player, needs game time and help. Wouldn't be opposed to moving Lewis to half back and throwing Smith forward if it doesn't work out against the Crows.

Question is does JKH and/or Kennedy come in for Kent (fumbly, shaky disposal and ineffective tackling) or Pedersen (limited impact forward). I'd be inclined at this stage to stay with Kent because he still has upside and we'll need to make changes post Darwin, and to stay with Pedersen because the 3 talls force Lever to defend more.

[jackaub 1,402]

6 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Tyson probably comes in on a wing for Stretch who's just a bit up and down at the moment, not sure he's confident. Another stint in the VFL might get him right for the back end of the year when the ball movement flows better because I still think he's a lock and play guy on a wing.

Makes us slow through the wings with Tyson and Lewis holding them down and maybe Melky and Harmes going through their but that's ok.

Joel Smith gets another week, the back 7 did the job well enough and we may as well give him another go. He'll be a player, needs game time and help. Wouldn't be opposed to moving Lewis to half back and throwing Smith forward if it doesn't work out against the Crows.

Question is does JKH and/or Kennedy come in for Kent (fumbly, shaky disposal and ineffective tackling) or Pedersen (limited impact forward). I'd be inclined at this stage to stay with Kent because he still has upside and we'll need to make changes post Darwin, and to stay with Pedersen because the 3 talls force Lever to defend more.

I must admit I had difficulty working out where Pedo was playing on the day will watc a repaly tonight

anybody care to inform me?

[Adzman 2,085]

8 hours ago, samcantstandya said:

I can't understand how a professional footballer can not be a good kick

That kick resulting in a goal to put us 2 points up looked good to me...

[DemonWA 3,438]

2 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

For those pushing for Kennedy over Kent I would be interested in why.

 

Shuffle the deck until you get a hand that you like.

[Wrecker45 3,378]

Kent started poorly but came good when it counted. We're lacking so many players at the moment can't see him being dropped with his big body, pace and experience (compared to possible replacements).

Stretch was ordinary but I thought he was playing reasonable football before he got dropped earlier in the year. I would drop him. Let's see what the coaches do.

If Trengove was ever going to play again it was last week. Best of luck mate. I feel for you.

Joel Smith was a strange inclusion. We either believe he can have an impact in the finals with his x-factor and persist with him. Or drop him this week when a few more players are available.

The ins are based on availability.

[deelete my account 1,194]

4 hours ago, jnrmac said:

Frost doing kick ins? A bit early for drinking isn't it?

Frost doing play-on ins*

[Lil_red_fire_engine 10,185]

10 hours ago, jackaub said:

Our forward line is better without hogan at the moment

Give him the year off to rest and recover

Hogan had a direct hand in 2 goals (T-Mac and Melksham's winner). Kicked one himself and missed an early sitter. Our run on in the second was when he was shifted into the middle when they stopped clearing the ball at will. When T-Mac was hot in the third he played wide and high to not allow double teaming. That's a fair role contribution for someone who has hardly played this year.

 

[leehow 285]

2 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Tyson probably comes in on a wing for Stretch who's just a bit up and down at the moment, not sure he's confident. Another stint in the VFL might get him right for the back end of the year when the ball movement flows better because I still think he's a lock and play guy on a wing.

Makes us slow through the wings with Tyson and Lewis holding them down and maybe Melky and Harmes going through their but that's ok.

Joel Smith gets another week, the back 7 did the job well enough and we may as well give him another go. He'll be a player, needs game time and help. Wouldn't be opposed to moving Lewis to half back and throwing Smith forward if it doesn't work out against the Crows.

Question is does JKH and/or Kennedy come in for Kent (fumbly, shaky disposal and ineffective tackling) or Pedersen (limited impact forward). I'd be inclined at this stage to stay with Kent because he still has upside and we'll need to make changes post Darwin, and to stay with Pedersen because the 3 talls force Lever to defend more.

Tyson will playin the middle, someone else will move to the wing.

[the pearl 29]

Pedo? How quickly some of you forget. Should be in the first ten picked at the selection table.

[Lil_red_fire_engine 10,185]

24 minutes ago, the pearl said:

Pedo? How quickly some of you forget. Should be in the first ten picked at the selection table.

Who are you playing him ahead of Gawn, T-Mac, Hogan or Watts?

[Jaded No More 57,959]

Totally random question, but I'm going to be in London on Saturday for work. Any ideas where I can try and watch the game, preferably near Oxford street? 

Not sure I'll have time but could always sneak a pub lunch and watch the second half, if anyone has a hot tip? 

[junk 342]

in TYson,JKH out  2 unlucky ones. 

[Maldonboy38 5,861]

10 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Do you want to drop Jetta or T. McDonald while you're at it?

No.

[samcantstandya 920]

2 hours ago, Adzman said:

That kick resulting in a goal to put us 2 points up looked good to me...

His field kicking can hit or miss

[adsy 135]

20 minutes ago, Jaded said:

Totally random question, but I'm going to be in London on Saturday for work. Any ideas where I can try and watch the game, preferably near Oxford street? 

Not sure I'll have time but could always sneak a pub lunch and watch the second half, if anyone has a hot tip? 

Temple walkabout next to Temple station would be showing it. Not too far away from Oxford Street and it's nice along the river there. 

If not, you can always sign up to watchafl for a week and watch on laptop/ipad. Used it for every game this year and works great. 

[pineapple dee 2,892]

21 minutes ago, Jaded said:

Totally random question, but I'm going to be in London on Saturday for work. Any ideas where I can try and watch the game, preferably near Oxford street? 

Not sure I'll have time but could always sneak a pub lunch and watch the second half, if anyone has a hot tip? 

Jaded, I hope your " friend " is at the match this week. He owes us that much. He can go swanning around London any time. We have footy games to win. 

[dieter 3,325]

I watched the replay today and felt every player did his bit. Stretch was involved in the first half, Kent came good in the last half - nothing spectacular but plenty of effort and grunt - and what little we saw of Smith was encouraging. I'd persevere with him and it's obvious that the coaches see more in him than us hoi pollois. I was surprised they brought him back so quickly, but I can see the obvious class he brings.

All in all, the win over Carlton was so satisfying because we won it without Jones, Viney, Salem, Brayshaw, Bugg, Vandenberg, Watts and Tyson. We won it without contributions from Hogan and Smith who were underdone.

Both will be better next week.

Were Tyson and Watts to be available next week I'd leave out Melksham - his disposal is a liability - and whoever doesn't come up this week.

 

 

[titan_uranus 22,366]

People calling for Hogan to be dropped are just the same old people who criticised him all through last year and early this year. It was his first game back, he was clearly rusty but not as bad as some are suggesting and he played a role, albeit not a stellar one - but as is the classic problem for Hogan, he set such a high bar early that his critics expect/demand him to dominate each week.

Ridiculous calling for him to be dropped. Absolutely ridiculous.

6 hours ago, dee-tox said:

Melksham is the main tagger these days. Gibbs was pretty much ineffective as was Pendlebury and many others. Hitting the scoreboard with crucial goals has been a bonus.

Sorry but no.

Having said that, Melksham is playing a solid role at the moment and I don't see him being dropped (yet, anyway).