Training - Wednesday 28th June, 2017

[hardtack 10,127]

37 minutes ago, jumbo returns said:

Time to bring in Dean Kent? Fantastic game last week....

Maybe my memory is deceiving me, but while watching the Casey game I thought Kent looked rather lacklustre/disinterested.

[daisycutter 28,627]

7 minutes ago, hardtack said:

Maybe my memory is deceiving me, but while watching the Casey game I thought Kent looked rather lacklustre/disinterested.

certainly didn't look 'fantastic', ht, though i only watched about half the game

[jumbo returns 6,504]

2 minutes ago, hardtack said:

Maybe my memory is deceiving me, but while watching the Casey game I thought Kent looked rather lacklustre/disinterested.

Oh, I thought he was good - fess up, that I saw only about half the game, but his running, tackling and making space was very good - as was JKH's

BenK, I'm not sure about as he butchered the ball a bit...

[jumbo returns 6,504]

1 hour ago, Glenn Molloy said:

It's an interesting selection dliemma.  You'd think that Wagner would be a straight swap for Salem but for Garlett, I see three options - Kent, Kennedy or JKH.  JKH has been playing more of an inside mid role rather than forward, so will they go with the roles that they have been playing at the VFL?  Of the three, Kennedy produces the best forward pressure in my opinion but the final decision is a toss of the coin job.

 

Mebbe - but he's a turnover king at the moment...

[Dees2014 2,377]

52 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

so what?  hoges and jack were out last week

leave weids at casey to develop properly

Aren't trolls wonderful?

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1 hour ago, Glenn Molloy said:

It's an interesting selection dliemma.  You'd think that Wagner would be a straight swap for Salem but for Garlett, I see three options - Kent, Kennedy or JKH.  JKH has been playing more of an inside mid role rather than forward, so will they go with the roles that they have been playing at the VFL?  Of the three, Kennedy produces the best forward pressure in my opinion but the final decision is a toss of the coin job.

 

I secretly hope that one of them makes the team and the AFL's team selection website stuffs up and accidentally abbreviates the name of that player to Ken.

[Satyriconhome 9,986]

How about White in for Salem and Josh Wagner replaces Hunt at the back and Hunt goes forward

[stynewillalwaysbeonthevine 84]

1 minute ago, Satyriconhome said:

How about White in for Salem and Josh Wagner replaces Hunt at the back and Hunt goes forward

Kent forward, JKH on ball. Vince off half back. 

Or

Wagner half back, Vince on ball. Kent forward. 

 

[Satyriconhome 9,986]

2 minutes ago, stynewillalwaysbeonthevine said:

Kent forward, JKH on ball. Vince off half back. 

Or

Wagner half back, Vince on ball. Kent forward. 

 

Well Kent, JKH and Kennedy stayed with Casey group at end, but could be smokescreen I suppose

[PaulRB 5,977]

6 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

How about White in for Salem and Josh Wagner replaces Hunt at the back and Hunt goes forward

It's interesting on Wagner in to release Hunt forward, as the Swans like to bottle up and grind out games (which we're good at too) so a line breaker (Hunt) behind the ball can be invaluable.. Also reckon two HBFs in for Jeffy and Salem is one too many, given its likely to be a contested slugfest I'd give JKH another crack at a midfield role (Jones' role) and hope he kills it.

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1 minute ago, Satyriconhome said:

Well Kent, JKH and Kennedy stayed with Casey group at end, but could be smokescreen I suppose

So that leaves Wagner and ? to replace Salem and Garlett?

[Satyriconhome 9,986]

Essendon caught out Sydney with speed forward of the ball and out the back, so why not Hunt as a forward

[Jaded No More 58,411]

1 minute ago, Satyriconhome said:

Essendon caught out Sydney with speed forward of the ball and out the back, so why not Hunt as a forward

I personally love Hunt up forward, but having lost Salem, that's a lot of pressure on Hibbo to be doing the attack from the backline. Means Vince needs to really take it up a notch off half back. 

I definitely do NOT want Frost doing the majority of backline attacking. If he's on Buddy, I rather he concentrates purely on ensuring he doesn't win them the game!

[Red and Blue realist 2,026]

2 hours ago, At the break of Gawn said:

How does hamstring tightness for Watts goes from a "expected to play against WCE", a "hopeful for Sydney" to a "week by week proposition"? Will the same happen to Jeffy? Who knows when we'll have a full strength forward line. 

Hammy's can be a bit fickle and normally you don't know how they'll react until you put on significant speed, that's probably why it's a week to week proposition, Watts might have felt good on a day he only extended to say 75% but felt tight the next when he went to 90%, no point having someone off early in a match. Jeffy will be the same, except he does seem to come back pretty quickly from them. If we played a day or 2 later my guess is that he would have been fine (guess only though).

[Red and Blue realist 2,026]

16 minutes ago, Jaded said:

I personally love Hunt up forward, but having lost Salem, that's a lot of pressure on Hibbo to be doing the attack from the backline. Means Vince needs to really take it up a notch off half back. 

I definitely do NOT want Frost doing the majority of backline attacking. If he's on Buddy, I rather he concentrates purely on ensuring he doesn't win them the game!

I also think the speed of Hunt and Frost will really worry Buddy. He likes to get it  60-70 out and wheel around either looking for a target or having a ping for goals, those 2 have the speed to force a decision from him quickly which he's been troubled with lately. 

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22 minutes ago, Jaded said:

I personally love Hunt up forward, but having lost Salem, that's a lot of pressure on Hibbo to be doing the attack from the backline. Means Vince needs to really take it up a notch off half back. 

I definitely do NOT want Frost doing the majority of backline attacking. If he's on Buddy, I rather he concentrates purely on ensuring he doesn't win them the game!

Pretty sure he is saying that both White and Wagner come in to fill Hunt and Salems half back roles. Hunt would then play forward. It would mean a big change to our back 6. But I can see Satys logic. I really dont know about White though... 

[Lord Travis 10,184]

Wagner in for Salem

Kent in for Garlett

Not ideal but we are digging into depth now. If the teams brings the right intensity we will win. At our best we can beat anyone now. It's going to be tough with so many of our top players out and coming off a short break back from the west.

[bing181 8,176]

Hunt seems to have ended up forward against WC, so perhaps it's a future role for him. Nothing to say he'll spend his career as a back, though we do reap the benefits of his rebound runs.

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    It may be just me, but I have little confidence in Wagner. I watched White at Casey & I thought he was very good, especially his disposal.

[beelzebub 22,241]

1 hour ago, Satyriconhome said:

Essendon caught out Sydney with speed forward of the ball and out the back, so why not Hunt as a forward

Isnt Hunt that very speed out of the back ?

[What 18,810]

Kent would have to be a certainty, you need to replace Garlett with a small forward, its vital to our gameplan.  Unless Dion Johnstone is called up for a shock debut, Kent is in.

In - Kent, Wagner

Out - Salem, Garlett

Would love to find a spot for JKH, but theres no clear opening and he can not play as  a small forward.

[Robbie57 1,991]

1 hour ago, Satyriconhome said:

Essendon caught out Sydney with speed forward of the ball and out the back, so why not Hunt as a forward

I was at the game and it was their speed from half back that killed the swans but bear in mind once you turn inboard at the SCG  its a short distance to the goal. In fact they did what the swans used to do. I would keep Hunt back rather than forward.

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1 hour ago, Satyriconhome said:

How about White in for Salem and Josh Wagner replaces Hunt at the back and Hunt goes forward

It's not a bad idea at all.

[Dappa Dan 2,188]

1 hour ago, Satyriconhome said:

How about White in for Salem and Josh Wagner replaces Hunt at the back and Hunt goes forward

This post is getting a lot of love.

We all saw Hunt forward for huge chunks of game time against the Eagles. And if it doesn't work, it's not like he can't go back if needed.

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7 minutes ago, ProDee said:

It's not a bad idea at all.

Indeed it's not, although everything else being equal, I'd prefer Kent's bigger body against the Swans (provided of course that he's prepared to use it).   The team will need to be selected with maximum flexibility in mind this week as there's quite a few variables ie does TMac need to go back if Buddy gets off the chain on Frosty or OMac.  In that sense, I'm more comfortable with Kent's ability to role through the midfield if Hunt got swung forward for example, than I am with JKH's ability to make a major impact at half forward.  Similarly, Wagner probably a few more strings to his bow at this juncture than White.  For us to win, Lewis, Vince, Viney and Tyson will have to play to their full potential I think against Hanneberry, Kennedy, Parker and Heeney.