Oliver is no 'stager'!

[btdemon 482]

Media tryhards attempting to paint Clarry as a stager really p!ss me off. He wasn't looking, wasn't expecting it and don't tell me he would have the presence of ind to instantly stage something he didn't see coming. While not a massive hit, it obviously connected with his jaw and surprised him. Suggesting he is overplaying it are a slight on his character and we know that to be very tough and combative. Many questioned the veracity of the punch that knocked out Sonny Liston in the first round of the Ali vs Liston rematch. Liston didn't take a dive! He was wobbling all over the place. I'm not saying that Clarry was badly hurt at all but it obviously caught unaware and to suggest he staged is BS.

 

[DaveyJones'sLocker 647]

It didn't look good and I said it straight away i thought it was the equivalent of a dive. He's a young man and I'm not doubting he was caught of guard and there was contact, but I think he will regret it. I'm not going to say he is a repeat offender but I think he has thrown his head back a few times this season which has been the only part of his game I have disliked.

[Nasher 33,616]

Why would he even stage anyway? There was no free kick on offer.

The way the footy public wanted to hang him over it was embarrassing, but that's to be expected.  Let's be honest, when something looks dubious, it's fun to assume the worst interpretation when it comes to opposition players and bag them for it a bit.  

But I would have thought most MFC supporters would want to give him the benefit doubt.  I think if you're a Melbourne supporter giving him stick over it, you should be ashamed of yourself.

[Redbeard 497]

My first reaction was it was a massive dive. I did notice he had a little blood in his mouth so not doubting there was contact but honestly thought it wasn't much more than a tap. Would like to see other angles though as quite often we've seen instances of contact that look a lot worse from a different angle.

[Mr Steve 3,820]

Cut the kid some flack, I'll get Will Schofield to tap you on the jaw and see if you can stand up.

[Nasher 33,616]

5 minutes ago, DaveyJones'sLocker said:

It didn't look good and I said it straight away i thought it was the equivalent of a dive. He's a young man and I'm not doubting he was caught of guard and there was contact, but I think he will regret it. I'm not going to say he is a repeat offender but I think he has thrown his head back a few times this season which has been the only part of his game I have disliked.

What was his motivation for diving?

[Nasher 33,616]

2 minutes ago, Redbeard said:

My first reaction was it was a massive dive. I did notice he had a little blood in his mouth so not doubting there was contact but honestly thought it wasn't much more than a tap. Would like to see other angles though as quite often we've seen instances of contact that look a lot worse from a different angle.

What was his motivation for diving?

[Wrecker45 3,378]

3 minutes ago, DaveyJones'sLocker said:

It didn't look good and I said it straight away i thought it was the equivalent of a dive. He's a young man and I'm not doubting he was caught of guard and there was contact, but I think he will regret it. I'm not going to say he is a repeat offender but I think he has thrown his head back a few times this season which has been the only part of his game I have disliked.

You are an A grade idiot. We have the best player in a generation and all you can see is a stager.

Did you miss the bit where he got up and tried to retaliate with the otherplayers trying to hold him back?

[Willmoy1947 4,089]

I think it's actually, at that time, an assault, whether it barely touched (drew blood?) or not....

[John Crow Batty 8,863]

That was no staging. Anyone who's copped an elbow or dished one out knows it just takes a' clip' to stun.

[DaveyJones'sLocker 647]

4 minutes ago, Nasher said:

What was his motivation for diving?

from memory pertracca was asking the umpire for a free kick so that puts a hole in your argument.

does there need to be a motivating factor? Can it not just be he did somthing because he did?

[Lucifers Hero 39,812]

What is embarrassing is the media getting all excited and trying to blow it up as a big deal.  They go after a 19yo kid but treat the Rance stage last week with kit gloves.

In the ch7 post game interview by Darcy and Richo they appeared to bait him by asking if the hit connected or if it hurt.  Terrible thing to do to a 19yo on national televison.  They should be ashamed. 

To his credit Clarrie took it on the chin (no pun intended) and stood up for himself really well.

[Nasher 33,616]

Just now, DaveyJones'sLocker said:

does there need to be a motivating factor? Can it not just be he did somthing because he did?

When benefit of the doubt could be applied, then yes, I would like some reasoning/logic to explain why he might have done it.  

[Nasher 33,616]

4 minutes ago, america de cali said:

That was no staging. Anyone who's copped an elbow or dished one out knows it just takes a' clip' to stun.

QFP.

[Demon Disciple 12,128]

It doesn't take much of a hit to the chin to get someone off balance. Oliver was clearly stunned, just look at boxers taking a side swipe on the chin, it messes with their inner ear equilibrium.

[Ted Lasso 19,518]

I love how the media is calling him soft lol 

second year player who is top 5 in the league for contested possessions, a lazy 18 last night 

he's probably in the top 10 in the Brownlow right now 

and he couldn't have got a free kick anyway. 

 

[Chook 15,013]

4 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

It doesn't take much of a hit to the chin to get someone off balance. Oliver was clearly stunned, just look at boxers taking a side swipe on the chin, it messes with their inner ear equilibrium.

 

10 minutes ago, america de cali said:

That was no staging. Anyone who's copped an elbow or dished one out knows it just takes a' clip' to stun.

Too true. The only people saying a hit like that shouldn’t put you on the deck are people who have never been within coo-ee of a fight in their lives.

[beelzebub 23,376]

There are some media folk who just don't like Melbourne. Any excuse for a cheap dig. This isn't isolated.

Someone somewhere (high up ) has a personal vendetta. Sounds 'conspiracy' i know...but they exist

[DaveyJones'sLocker 647]

7 minutes ago, Nasher said:

When benefit of the doubt could be applied, then yes, I would like some reasoning/logic to explain why he might have done it.  

A lot of people will agree with you and I think if it was another team  perhaps Selwood they would be up in arms.

I'm going to stick with my initial thought he went down easy but maybe it was shock/surpise,but I didn't like it

[jacey 333]

he went down easy. 

Love clarence but he would want his time over. 

No biggie. 

[Dante 2,739]

Absolutely no staging, he went down instantaneously, he was stunned and that hit caught him right on the sweet spot. They should take a look at the hit he took from Rioli, he showed enormous courage and resilience bouncing up from that  

The media will try to turn anything in to a sensation, if they can.

 

[IvanBartul13 2,564]

13 minutes ago, america de cali said:

That was no staging. Anyone who's copped an elbow or dished one out knows it just takes a' clip' to stun.

Agree, there is no way anyone can say with confidence that he staged.  Elbows are insidious weapons in fighting.  Anyone who has seen some Muay Thai will know that glancing elbow blows frequently knock very tough fighters out and also leave horrific cuts.  Sure there is a possibility Clarrie embellished it but there is no way it would have been fun being on the receiving end of a glancing elbow to the point of the chin from a 195cm unit.

[Demonstone 22,527]

Another reason to dislike us?  Bring.  It.  On.

[Willmoy1947 4,089]

 The Umpire was quite virulent, from about EIGHT feet away, in his IMMEDIATE decision to report this bloke, i suppose he's blind as well!!!!

[In Harmes Way 7,783]

Elbowing players in the face after the siren is not a great look for the sport. The media and AFL would be better placed focussing on sending this message rather than arguing whether it was a glancing blow or not.

from my perspective, Oliver's reaction clearly demonstrated it hurt.

#givehimweeks