POST MATCH DISCUSSION - Round 2

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

On a bright note.....its nice to see hawthorn, Sydney and St.Kilda in the bottom 6.

[chook fowler 18,271]

4 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Feel sorry for the kids sitting near me today. I lost it in the third quarter and unleashed some horrible language. This team tests me sometimes! Very relieved we won!

Apply some solvol to your tongue 

[Demon Disciple 10,996]

1 minute ago, Macca said:

A lot of errors were made further up the field but our backmen as a group defended well and our zone was quite effective

Agree that our back line ultimately won us the game. Kept us in it when the Blues took over the midfield, before our forward line finally decided to play football

[Demon Disciple 10,996]

1 minute ago, Wadda We Sing said:

On a bright note.....its nice to see hawthorn, Sydney and St.Kilda in the bottom 6.

And the PIes going winless, may it forever continue!

[chook fowler 18,271]

No complaints about today at all. It's early in the season, the team is very young, we missed Vince and in previous years they would have run all over us.

[Demon trucker 1,773]

Can't wait to get back  to docklands play better at that ground.  

[Deemented Are Go! 3,602]

52 minutes ago, Akum said:

Thought Harmes was OK, especially in the last.

Your comments about Watts (a bit harsh, but not much) also apply to Hogan. His midfield play was really good, his forward play was ... not.

And I admit he made quite a few mistakes, but Tyson really has to go into the top group for the truckload of good things he did. So often in the right place at the right time. 

I agree with you on Hogan there, similar to Watts. 

Just watching Harmes off the ball, he looked completely lost at times. Swap him straight back out with Bernie IMO. 

I agree that Tyson found a lot of the ball, but I thought his negative outweighed his positive today. 

Individuals aside, the Dees as a whole were substandard today - I'm expecting some fireworks next week to make amends!

[At the break of Gawn 3,516]

Jones and Watts were easily the best ball users. Tyson's disposal improved in the last qtr

[dees189227 10,800]

I thought today Tommy Mac's kicking was pretty good and has improved over the off season. He did some nice long accurate passes today. 

Watts just needs to learn he can stretch the hands out to mark the ball, not always have to take it on the chest. 

But can I say Neville Jetta he was fantastic today. Just goes back into packs and uses the ball well. A credit to him and his hard work. 

Maybe our female team can teach the men's team on how to stick your tackles, we missed a few today. 

Also what a great crowd today. Loved the noise. 

Also on a side note does anyone else think out women's team deserved better in regards to there best and fairest? They had it at the game today in one of the rooms. I get that at 1/2 time they did a lap but surely they deserve there own night and time to have it. 

Edited April 2, 2017 by dees189227

[Gator 16,893]

Sometimes these wins are the making of a club.  When another club knows they can beat you and you know they can beat you it's not easy to come out on top if they're in the game for long enough.

I didn't want them to kick more than 10 goals and they kicked 9.  I wanted to score more than 100 points and we didn't = X

Our game-plan and ball movement is still a work in progress.

Fact: we were younger and less experienced than them

Fact: we we the youngest team of the 18 in round 2

Fact: we were the second least experienced from a games played perspective to Gold Coast

Fact: we had 12 players with less than 50 games.  No other club in the round had more than 10

[Deemented Are Go! 3,602]

1 minute ago, dees189227 said:

I thought today Tommy Mac's kicking was pretty good and has improved over the off season. He did some nice long accurate passes today. 

Watts just needs to learn he can stretch the hands out to mark the ball, not always have to take it on the chest. 

Maybe our female team can teach the men's team on how to stick your tackles, we missed a few today. 

Also on a side note does anyone else think out women's team deserved better in regards to there best and fairest? They had it at the game today in one of the rooms. I get that at 1/2 time they did a lap but surely they deserve there own night and time to have it. 

Agreed re: women's B&F- at the ground I thought it was just a little show off the medals type thing, but realised it the actual presentation.

They deserve better that to have that ceremony in a back room at half time when half the crowds going for a wee, having a smoko and getting a pie. Poor form.

[The heart beats true 16,206]

14 minutes ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

Just watching Harmes off the ball, he looked completely lost at times. Swap him straight back out with Bernie IMO. 

 

I thought he got us going in the last quarter. He didn't do much before that but he was just a live wire for a 10 minute period there and we looked dangerous.

We need to find better link up players though half forward in general though. Jeffy likes to (and is clearly told to) play close to goal, so we need those link up half forward players to have a bit of X factor that can break a line. Maybe Kent can be the one.

[picket fence 15,187]

1 hour ago, stevethemanjordan said:

Mistake central.

Jones, Salem and T-Mac really solid and Garlett inspiring.

Tyson didn't need to come in as I said. 80% mistakes, his man beat him to the contest most times. Makes us look slower.

O-Mac will go straight out for Frost when Frost is ready. 

Happy to get a win out of a performance like that.

Let's actually show up with some smarts and skills against Geelong though.

Otherwise #187 here we go 

 

Well never let it be said I don't acknowledge a good performance. I THOUGHT OSCAR AND ESPECIALLY TMAC WERE VERY GOOD TODAY!!

PF The discerning man's critic!

Edited April 2, 2017 by picket fence

[Brayshaws' Helmet 143]

48 minutes ago, hemingway said:

I really dont care about the semantics. We won the bloody game. If we win ugly most of the time that's just fine with me.  We have had years of losing ugly every bloody week. So let's be happy with the win. 

Surely there has to be a happy median between "dees are back and ready to play finals" last week, and "this is the worst game I've seen in a long time" can't please many on here, even when you start 2 - 0 

[Demon Dynasty 15,522]

28 minutes ago, don't make me angry said:

Can't wait to get back  to docklands play better at that ground.  

One year ago that post would have made me VERY angry angry!

[Brownie 5,225]

27 minutes ago, demon9 said:

Jones and Watts were easily the best ball users. Tyson's disposal improved in the last qtr

With a stronger midfield, Jones' game is going to a whole new level. Im loving watching some of those spearing kicks through the centre of the ground and how good he is in closer to goal as well. Its great to see after having to carry this team for a long time. he seems to be playing with more flair and attack.

[bandicoot 1,395]

1 hour ago, Clint Bizkit said:

A cut doesn't mean concussion but it is a worry that he gets hit in the head so often.

The Carlton player flew with his knee and hit him in the head. Could have happened to anyone. Brayshaw doesn't have anymore or anyless head high hits then anyone else. 

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Just now, bandicoot said:

The Carlton player flew with his knee and hit him in the head. Could have happened to anyone. Brayshaw doesn't have anymore or anyless head high hits then anyone else. 

Except for all those concussions.

[Cards13 9,117]

52 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Feel sorry for the kids sitting near me today. I lost it in the third quarter and unleashed some horrible language. This team tests me sometimes! Very relieved we won!

As long as you said sorry to the kids and their folks LT. I was watching it on a laptop in the bar of a pub in NZ and had to apologise to a few of the locals.

[demoniac 1,243]

Winning ugly is progress.

Lets hope next week we can hit up team mates 20 metres away.

[DaveyJones'sLocker 585]

Happy with the 4 points today that's about all.

im probably been harsh but for me weid has been really poor for big periods of both games and I think I'd like to see pedo in for him .Just small things fumbling or slow to move it on.

[Demon Dynasty 15,522]

14 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Sometimes these wins are the making of a club.  When another club knows they can beat you and you know they can beat you it's not easy to come out on top if they're in the game for long enough.

I didn't want them to kick more than 10 goals and they kicked 9.  I wanted to score more than 100 points and we didn't = X

Our game-plan and ball movement is still a work in progress.

Fact: we were younger and less experienced than them

Fact: we we the youngest team of the 18 in round 2

Fact: we were the second least experienced from a games played perspective to Gold Coast

Fact: we had 12 players with less than 50 games.  No other club in the round had more than 10

Nice work Pro. So it's starting to appear we are......

- Still a somewhat inexperienced team vs most

- More talented across the park than most

- Sometimes prone to putting in a fairly ordinary performance, like today, (even for a quarter or two) while also putting in better performances at times like last week but not yet for four quarters.

- Starting to find ways to win more often!

If so we are more than likely going to gradually improve from here, albeit with a few hic ups along the way. Finals beckons, provided we can keep our core group of best 25 to 28 on the park.

[Demon Jack 6,313]

Righto, I've had a couple hours to fully digest the game. 

- The McDonald bros were both good today. No major glaring errors today. For what it's worth, OMac is currently ranked seventh in the league for 1 percenters 

- Jack Watts had an ok game today. Maybe not great, but I think many posters are overreacting by saying he should be dropped. He kicked two and set up a least another couple. 

- Yes, Dom Tyson had some incredibly iffy moments with his disposal. But 32 touches, 11 marks, seven tackles and a goal is as elite as you get. He really stood up in the final quarter as well.

- For everyone concerned about Brayshaw, not all of our young guns are immediately going to find consistencey with their game. Give him time, he'll be alright.

-  Salem and Oliver are absolute guns. 

- Weideman had some great moments today, especially that mark and goal in the first. He just needs to learn when to not play on following taking a mark as he gets caught a bit too often.

[Akum 2,660]

57 minutes ago, dees189227 said:

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Also some stupid undisciplined acts from our leaders. Also at one stage Max was off and Watts was to busy fighting Carlton players and couldn't get back into the ruck and Oliver had to do the centre square contest. We lost focus. 

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Sorry this is just wrong. It's not like he ran from metres away to get involved in the melee. The melee started around Watts and he was trying to get away from it but couldn't.

[Demon Dynasty 15,522]

14 minutes ago, demoniac said:

Winning ugly is progress.

Lets hope next week we can hit up team mates 20 metres away.

Or look further up the field as first option and possibly hit up a leading player who is well in front of his opponent (or completely free inside or out) instead of trying to squeeze so many cute kicks to a team mate who is well covered 20 meters away! Watts did both of these on different occasions which is kind of a reflection on how most of the boys went on the day. A little bit of 'on', followed by a little bit of 'off'.

Edited April 2, 2017 by Rusty Nails