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24 minutes ago, billy2803 said:

No disrespect Dub, but we've gone from a rumour that 'stuie' heard/read about Kent's back (source unconfirmed, possibly via Facebook) , to you jumping to issues about his hamstrings, to this...

Offseason is alive and well!!!

I contributed information I heard from someone told directly by an assistant coach.

You're welcome to do the same.

 

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4 minutes ago, stuie said:

I contributed information I heard from someone told directly by an assistant coach.

You're welcome to do the same.

 

Stuie, while I did question your source, it was more pointing out that it was part of a chain of events that went from a general rumour (which may in fact be true), to Kent having another hamstring related injury.  Just highlighting how a rumour can get twisted so much, so quickly, with so little solid information.

FWIW, if I had solid information to pass on, I would do it, and I don't need your permission to do so.  Good day.

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1 hour ago, Wrecker45 said:

Have heard Maynard has been impressive in the match simulation. Very quick and clean hands.

I am also intrigued with Maynard. He is seriously a pretty solid unit already. Wonder what role we have for him at Casey.

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2 hours ago, billy2803 said:

No disrespect Dub, but we've gone from a rumour that 'stuie' heard/read about Kent's back (source unconfirmed, possibly via Facebook) , to you jumping to issues about his hamstrings, to this...

Offseason is alive and well!!!

no disrespect felt.  was just mentioning the possibility of the back being hammy related as can be the case and esp as Kent did a bad hammy a while ago.  must be in my Melbourne supporting DNA to think worst case scenario

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I didn't go but have been told snippets of info.

Like I posted earlier Maynard had very quick and clean hands in the match simulation they were doing.

Jordan Lewis very big on directing players how to create space. Was ordering Oliver to keep running to create space in the match simulation. Were a couple of other examples about it that I have forgotten but the message I got was Lewis (and Macca) both yelling at people to keep running to create space.

Hunt's burst away pace was scintillating but we all knew this.

 

 

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57 minutes ago, DubDee said:

no disrespect felt.  was just mentioning the possibility of the back being hammy related as can be the case and esp as Kent did a bad hammy a while ago.  must be in my Melbourne supporting DNA to think worst case scenario

I think hammies can be back related but I'm not sure backs can be hammy related if that makes sense. This back injury could be a blessing in disguise as they might be forced to fix his core for good and then prevent any future hamstring problems. If it becomes an ongoing problem that's a concern, but I'd take him missing a few weeks to start the year now over doing a hammy mid season. Fixing the back/core to prevent hamstrings is hopefully what they've done with JKH over the break.

For such a quick and physical player Kent's forward pressure/tackling is quite bad as well so maybe a bit more time with core strength and agility could help him as well. 

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18 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

They have been trialling as a mid, watched him bash and crash the other day

His progress will be very interesting as a mid coming from basketball with little to no footy for however long to get a rookie B gig. I'm not sure how the fitness levels translate. There're plenty of examples of successful mids with basketball backgrounds, but none that I know of that weren't also playing footy.

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1 minute ago, dazzledavey36 said:

For someone that stands 191cm tall thats a decent size for a  mid.

The New prototype...lucky he's not 192 

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31 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

For someone that stands 191cm tall thats a decent size for a  mid.

 They are thinking  maybe     decent size, good hands and ability to work in close  from basketball    let's have a look  Joel Smith is more your outside player but if Maynard can improve at same rate another small triumph for Recruiting Dept

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1 hour ago, DeeSpencer said:

I think hammies can be back related but I'm not sure backs can be hammy related if that makes sense.

Back related hammies refer to a slight vertebrate shift causing pressure or a pinching of the nerve, Then you feel hamstring  pain when really there is nothing wrong with the hamstring. Some thing  a Chiro could easily fix. but then you have to fix the vertebrate muscles or find out what caused the vertebrate shift.

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5 hours ago, billy2803 said:

No disrespect Dub, but we've gone from a rumour that 'stuie' heard/read about Kent's back (source unconfirmed, possibly via Facebook) , to you jumping to issues about his hamstrings, to this...

Offseason is alive and well!!!

Pretty sure offseason is out with a shoulder problem.

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1 hour ago, skills32 said:

Back related hammies refer to a slight vertebrate shift causing pressure or a pinching of the nerve, Then you feel hamstring  pain when really there is nothing wrong with the hamstring. Some thing  a Chiro could easily fix. but then you have to fix the vertebrate muscles or find out what caused the vertebrate shift.

Skills32. I don't post often but seriously mate if you are going to be dropping medical insight make sure you're qualified. 

That is the worst description of a back related Hamstring that I have ever heard. The only thing you got right is "pressure.... of the nerve.....you feel hamstring pain when really there is nothing wrong with the hamstring" 

The rest is absolute nonsense.

"Vertebrate shift"? What is that? Is it a animal with a backbone moving?

Disc pathology, ligament inflammation or compression, muscle derangement all possible causes of neural compression.

You can decide if I'm qualified or not.

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While people who have lower back issues commonly have referred pain to lower limbs and also can experience lower limb muscular issues most commonly hamstring but also calf .

as someone wrote having had significant issues with his hamstring does not predispose to back issues 

let us wait and see I would be more concerned if it is a back related issue it is more likely to be a stress issue/fracture. Which needs rest and would fit in with time line put forward although if so may be longer 

all conjecture obviously let us wait for some official confirmation 

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