VFL GRAND FINAL - CASEY SCORPIONS v FOOTSCRAY BULLDOGS

[iv'a worn smith 1,979]

1 minute ago, bandicoot said:

Give the guy a full preseason before riding him off. He wasn't even running this time last year.

its unfair to criticize him before a good pre season 

I don't think Webber is that way inclined

[KC from Casey 6,592]

Six goals down with about 6 minutes to go after Scott's goal.

[Webber 10,149]

1 minute ago, bandicoot said:

It's not the players!!! It's our game plan. 

We have a superior list than Footscray at both VFL and AFL levels however we play an outdated game plan that gets exposed with the modern game.

both the saints and dogs play a high pressure, quick game that makes us look slow. 

Goodwin needs to look away from Roos structure and implement the clarkson plan 

Rubbish. This kind of 'better list' nonsense really makes me laugh. How can you possibly say we have better lists when they consistently get monstered by the team's you claim are inferior?. It's pie in the sky garbage. 

[chook fowler 18,326]

Spencer can't out mark a midget

[KC from Casey 6,592]

Newton - back to 5 goals. A bit late  though.

[iv'a worn smith 1,979]

2 minutes ago, bandicoot said:

The flat track at etihad plays right into Footscray's fast running game plan. 

It also exposes our lack of outside speed and pace

Maybe so, but we beat them by 70 points didn't we?

[bandicoot 1,395]

3 minutes ago, frankie_d said:

It's an interesting point.

But we beat the Hawks... Not sure what that means for the game plan

The Hawks are finished. Not at quick as the other sides anymore. 

[Biffen 12,343]

Hate this bulldog breed.

I liked the losers more.

 

[xarronn 380]

7 minutes ago, bandicoot said:

It's not the players!!! It's our game plan. 

We have a superior list than Footscray at both VFL and AFL levels however we play an outdated game plan that gets exposed with the modern game.

both the saints and dogs play a high pressure, quick game that makes us look slow. 

Goodwin needs to look away from Roos structure and implement the clarkson plan 

 

3 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

We don't have a superior list to The Dogs at AFL & VFL level. 

Get your head out of the clouds...

The MFC has got to stop over rating itself. Lots of players had their last game today. 

I completely agree with your first statement. How anyone would suggest we do is quite baffling!

 

But as for the second bolded sentence, I'm surprised that you have somehow equated Bandicoot's opinions with those of the MFC.

On the other hand perhaps you are aware of something I'm not.

[KC from Casey 6,592]

And that's it - Casey lose by 31 points.

Peter Jackson VFL 2016

Casey Scorpions 2.1.13 6.3.39 6.3.39 10.6.66

Footscray Bulldogs 2.7.19 4.9.33 12.13.85 13.19.97

Goals

Casey Scorpions T Smith 3 Weideman 2 Hulett Newton Scott Trengove White 

Footscray Bulldogs Jamieson 3 Campbell Long 2 Dale Hannan Lynch Nash Tashevski-Beckwith Williams

Best

Casey Scorpions Oliver T Smith Dunn J Smith Kennedy Newton

Footscray Bulldogs Jong, Stevens Russell Campbell, Webb Barry

Statistics 

Lynden Dunn 21 disposals 18 kicks 3 handballs 7 marks 5 tackles 101 dream team points
Colin Garland 15 disposals 10 kicks 5 handballs 5 marks 3 tackles 67 dream team points
Jack Grimes 24 disposals 11 kicks 13 handballs 3 marks 5 tackles 88 dream team points
Liam Hulett 1 goal 2 behinds 9 disposals 6 kicks 3 handballs 3 marks 41 dream team points
Matt Jones 27 disposals 16 kicks 11 handballs 2 marks 4 tackles 93 dream team points
Ben Kennedy 24 disposals 16 kicks 8 handballs 2 marks 3 tackles 80 dream team points
Viv Michie 21 disposals 10 kicks 11 handballs 3 marks 3 tackles 71 dream team points
Alex Neal-Bullen 22 disposals 14 kicks 8 handballs 3 marks 6 tackles 92 dream team points
Ben Newton 17 disposals 9 kicks 8 handballs 6 marks 6 tackles 79  dream team points
Clayton Oliver 31 disposals 12 kicks 19 handballs 3 marks 6 tackles 1 hit out 105 dream team points
Joel Smith 18 disposals 7 kicks 11 handballs 2 marks 2 tackles 57 dream team points
Jake Spencer 4 disposals 1 kicks 3 handballs 5 tackles 23 hit outs 46 dream team points
Dean Terlich 12 disposals 9 kicks 3 handballs 2 marks 4 tackles 40 dream team points
Jack Trengove 1 goal 20 disposals 11 kicks 9 handballs 5 marks 2 tackles 3 hit outs 84 dream team points
Sam Weideman 2 goals 2 behinds 12 disposals 6  kicks 6 handballs 6 marks 2 tackles 71 dream team points
Mitch White 1 goal 14 disposals 8 kicks 6 handballs 2 marks 5 tackles 68 dream team points

[Lord Travis 10,184]

Absolutely destroyed today. The midfield just didn't try outside of the 2nd quarter. If you lose the possession count AND the tackle count it means you're not trying. As simple as that. Outside of Oliver the mods were all well down. Guys like ANB, Grimes, Michie, Kennedy, Jones etc were all poor. Disappointing end to the season. 

[mrtwister 650]

Enthusiasm destroyed yet again. When will it end?

[Sir Why You Little 34,614]

3 minutes ago, xarronn said:

 

I completely agree with your first statement. How anyone would suggest we do is quite baffling!

 

But as for the second bolded sentence, I'm surprised that you have somehow equated Bandicoot's opinions with those of the MFC.

On the other hand perhaps you are aware of something I'm not.

MFC Supporters...

[Scipio 5,868]

Where was the leadership? An issue that runs through the seniors and into the seconds IMO.

Smith and Kielty will both be on AFL lists next season.

[Deeoldfart 7,785]

Very, very disappointing from Casey and Melbourne perspective.  The more experienced Melbourne players in particular, were disappointing, with only Oliver and perhaps Weideman (glimpses only), showing that they might have what it takes at AFL level.

[mo64 5,209]

27 minutes ago, Webber said:

Oliver, Weideman (although he needs to get a lot stronger and fitter) and Joel Smith. That's the only promise out there from today's game as far as I can see. Anyone else? 

I said that an hour ago and got shouted down by everyone because Casey were in front. 

People talk about having faith in the FD. Whoever made the decisions to give Garland a 3 year deal and Spencer a year extension, have no idea of what makes an AFL footbller.

Edited September 25, 2016 by mo64

[The heart beats true 16,331]

One of my least favourite things about this forum is how even a loss in, what amounts to, 'the Reserves' turns into a rant about how the entire club has the wrong game plan, had no leaders, and will never be a good team.

Most of these guys are in the two's because they aren't good enough. Lets not read TOO much into it.

 

 

[junk 342]

The Dees are more than 18 months behind the Doggies,they seem to have reserves that can step up to senior level and certainly the Western Bulldogs are going to be one of those destination club not like us. The positive ( ? ) shows who we need to get rid of and what we need to get. 

[Fitz Fitzpatrick 886]

2 minutes ago, mo64 said:

I said that an hour ago and got shouted down by everyone because Casey were in front. 

People talk about having faith in the FD. Whoever made the decissions to give Garland a 3 year deal and Spencer a year extension, have no idea of what makes an AFL footbller.

mo64 is probaly the most level headed and reasoned poster on here. so much delusional crap posted on here most of the time. at best our list is destined for mid table in its current state. it needs so much more for this 'potential' to be anything more than that. 

[Lucifers Hero 37,174]

From today:

The good:  Most of last years draftees get finals experience - great for their development.

The bad:  32 scoring shots to 16.  Never really in it.

The ugly:  Shows how shallow MFC depth really is.  

[dieter 3,325]

6 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

MFC Supporters...

My sentiments as well. Bunch of doomed gloombags.

 

[Bossdog 2,002]

Fair Dinkum.......I have never heard so much whinging and wining from posters of this site

They have sacked half the team........Made calls on players playing in a bloody Grand Final which they lost by 30 odd points to a very good side all through the year

The amount of vitrol for the MFC listed players is embarassing.   If they are that bad....Go support someone else

The same said posters were adulating the team in our two other finals wins

A week is a long time in football.

The bulldog played some terrific footy.......We had an off quarter which cost us dearly.

See you next year???

 

[daisycutter 28,607]

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[Gipsy Danger 1,067]

Going through these comments I'm stumped at the posts outlining all the 'glaring problems'with Casey.

did people miss the fact that they just played in a grand final and were the minor premiers? Clearly they've got something right going on down there.

they were beaten on the day simple as that.

rather than jumping on (and off) the Scorpions bandwagon just stick to the usual crap you dish out about the demons and don't pretend you come down to casey every week and know what's going on there.

[Biffen 12,343]

The individuals on the Bulldogs side weren't as good as our players.

 There was little team spirit .

The players are good enough but the team isn't.