POST MATCH DISCUSSION - Round 23

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,400]

2 minutes ago, Biffen said:

Personally I reckon Dawes would have swung it.

No way would he have played today, far too busy sorting through offers from rival clubs.

[DemonOX 8,791]

Didn't watch the game and based on the scoreboard I'm glad I didn't waste my time. 

Another awesome effort it seems for the second week in a row. 

1. Great way to send Paul Roos off and IMO shows a total lack of respect for the man  

2. Great way for the players and supporters to go into the long preseason. 

3. All players at the club need to pull their heads out of their arzzes and realise consistent footy requires 100% of effort from all players every week, no excuses  

4. I am so disgusted, appalled and dissapointed with the way the club has finished the season. 

It's going to be a very long off season and until I see consistent effort next season I will NOT be getting my hopes up again. 

Good luc Goody ur gong to need it. 

[Devil In Disguise 2,278]

Disgusting pathetic effort. Good riddance Roos & take the selection committee with you.

[CP5 166]

The players will find it hard to look Roos in the eyes.  They saved their only 10 goal defeat for the year until his last game.  And his worst loss ever.

But despite this bitter pill I take solace in the young emerging group, which has quality right through it.

 

[praha 11,240]

2016 overall feels way too much like 2010.

This is what I'm worried about.

[chook fowler 19,459]

Well that has put us all in a good mood.

[waynewussell 5,768]

A horrible end to 2016. This will have lasting effects. Membership for one. We still have a mediocre list! We still lack the game changers... and there have to be at least three... we don't have one! We got ahead of ourselves! I am very comfortable with 3/4's of the coaching panel and the off-field team, but there better be some BIG ins during off-season or we could just as easily fall away. Think what would happen if we were decimated by injury because 2016 has been one of our best years ever for games lost due to injury! I would think that the 22 players who took the field are embarrassed about the way they managed to send Roos off!

[Moonshadow 17,676]

2 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

No way would he have played today, far too busy sorting through offers from rival clubs.

Won't take him long

[John Crow Batty 8,871]

Just now, waynewussell said:

A horrible end to 2016. This will have lasting effects. Membership for one. We still have a mediocre list! We still lack the game changers... and there have to be at least three... we don't have one! We got ahead of ourselves! I am very comfortable with 3/4's of the coaching panel and the off-field team, but there better be some BIG ins during off-season or we could just as easily fall away. Think what would happen if we were decimated by injury because 2016 has been one of our best years ever for games lost due to injury! I would think that the 22 players who took the field are embarrassed about the way they managed to send Roos off!

You suggest the players are embarrassed? I reckon they just don't care.

[McQueen 17,865]

Just pathetic. My mother who is a Geelong supporter dragged my Dad, who is an MFC supporter along to this game. He doesn't get out to see many games and when he does this [censored] is served up.

So disappointing.

[Redleg 40,964]

Wonder who finished the season with more optimism, us or the Bombers?

[Adam The God 30,276]

29 minutes ago, Jaded said:

Hard to see beyond getting smashed by over 100 points due to a complete lack of effort combined with zero skills.

We had an OK season, we steamed the bleeding, we had some good wins, but my god we are still a very very ordinary side unless absolutely everything goes our way. 

Skills are woeful, attitude and leadership turns bad very quickly, a lot of question marks over our forward line and I guess our midfield to a certain extent. 

Lots to do this pre-season. I reckon if we make finals next year we may just scrape in. Wouldn't surprise me if we missed out. You can't put in some of the performances we put in this year, and expect to be a finals team.

It's all about our midfield and leadership, J. Our ball movement and general forward 50 entries were deplorable as they were last week. The lack of pressure on the outside of the contest and inside it from our mids was palpable. Geelong mids continually waltzed out of the midfield unpressured and as a result were able to hit up opposition forwards. There was very little our backs could do, but it didn't help Jetta was totally off his game. 

Our fumbling in the midfield became endemic and it just wasn't our day. But there's one thing I won't excuse and that's lack of effort. Goodwin should be nailing blokes between the eyes after that performance. It'll tell us a lot about how we respond to adversity next year.

Oh and Nathan Jones is no leader. I know that’s not a popular opinion around here, but wake up. He's not.

Edited August 27, 2016 by A F

[titan_uranus 25,020]

As I said in the gameday thread, it is possible for this season to be a success and for today to be disgraceful on all levels.

There is unfortunately a lot more to these performances than the players seem to think. We may well have done ourselves out of a Friday night game next year (you can easily imagine the fixturing team at the AFL just saying to themselves "but Melbourne just lost by 100" whilst they pencil the 12-10 Saints and the "resurgent" Bombers in for Friday night games instead). Then there's the whole "destination club" effect - again, you can imagine players wondering how far we have come (I dispute any suggestion we haven't improved this year but not everyone watches Melbourne as closely as we do).

Finally, there's the fact that we can't even get ourselves going for the final game for a coach we actually like. First coach we haven't been forced to fire since...who? I don't even remember. And that is how we respond?

2016 was a success. We are streets ahead as a club of where we were at in 2013 and, IMO, better placed than 2010. We have a promising list and a bright future. But we've inexcusably let ourselves down today and we as supporters have every right to be disgusted.

[Bitter but optimistic 22,242]

3 minutes ago, waynewussell said:

A horrible end to 2016. This will have lasting effects. Membership for one. We still have a mediocre list! We still lack the game changers... and there have to be at least three... we don't have one! We got ahead of ourselves! I am very comfortable with 3/4's of the coaching panel and the off-field team, but there better be some BIG ins during off-season or we could just as easily fall away. Think what would happen if we were decimated by injury because 2016 has been one of our best years ever for games lost due to injury! I would think that the 22 players who took the field are embarrassed about the way they managed to send Roos off!

That was close to our best team today and we got flogged!!

FMD!!

[Moonshadow 17,676]

Melbourne player's minds were already in Bali by the 5min mark 

[Adam The God 30,276]

30 minutes ago, olisik said:

Our forward line coach needs to take a hard look at themself

No idea.

[Dante 2,739]

 

We were totally outclassed by Geelong today and they had two of the players we desperately need one of, Dangerfield and Selwood.

I'm not sure why we went in with only one ruck and didn't play Spence, he brings a different perspective to the centre bounces. We still wouldn't have won but it may have given the Max a bit of a break.

We are totally lacking in blue ribbon in the middle and are purely blue collar, Viney and Nathan are shot, I'm sure they will welcome the break, even when they did get the ball today their disposal was appalling, as was Tyson's. Make no mistake, Geelong are a very slick unit that grows another leg when the play down there.

Having said that, we were woeful today.

 

[DemonOX 8,791]

8 minutes ago, chook fowler said:

Well that has put us all in a good mood.

I haven't got out of my good mood since last sat!

[Cards13 9,117]

14 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Lost it at selection.

Clarrie Chew  Chew  would have made all the difference!

Needs more capital LETTERS TO GET YOUR POINT ACROSS. 

Am I the ONLY ONE who knows this?!

[deestar 159]

22 minutes ago, A F said:

I haven't been so embarrassed since I was in Geelong for 186. 148 was boring. 186 and today's performance in a hostile, arrogant environment are the most embarrassing experiences in footy.

Some of you who have sat in the comfort of your own home and probably turned off the TV at the end of the first can say whatever you like. You can say it doesn't matter. You can say we're young and inexperienced, but the lack of intensity, work rate and downright lack of mere effort was disgusting.

I don't think the players quite grasp what it means to be a Melbourne fan. Today, they may as well have smacked me in the face and smeared [censored] on my back.

This collective have a lot of work to earn back any respect I had for them before today. It was completely extinguished today. We paid good money to go and watch them play and they turned in that performance, without a care in the world.

The only time we lifted our intensity and tried at all was when faced with a 100 point margin and even then we failed to stop it.

The buck has to stop with the leadership group and our captain yet again.

100% .... Our leadership is so lacking and even after an OK season I have always said it ..... Word is it is very known within the club ..... Lack of 2 way running and a touch of the sulks.

I thought vanders had a crack at lifting people today. Tried and was physical ... We really need another tall to ruck in the 22 ... Whenever Gawn is soundly beaten we have bad days. 

[Generation dee 1,336]

Dear everyone questioning if we've improved,

Get your head out of the sand. We have had a percentage over 100 all year until today), beaten 2 teams in the top 8, lost to 2 others by less than a goal and another 2 by less than 4 goals. On top of that we've won in Adelaide, perth, Darwin and the gold Coast. Until today, we had only lost 1 game by more than 40 points, to Sydney before the bye. 

If you truly think we haven't improved, well go and watch a bit of footage from round matches in 2013 before roos took over, or even his first year in charge. Today was pitiful obviously, but there haven't been many teams this year that haven't been absolutely thumped at some stage. It's a long season, we've frequently fielded one of the youngest average aged teams most weeks as the older, more experienced players were part of the reason why we had been so poor leading to this year. 

We've drafted in some absolute super talented youmg platerzs, but these super talented young players are still young. There will be speed bumps in the road until guys like hunt, petracca, Weiderman, hogan, oliver, Brayshaw and omac get to 50-80 games. You don't just become a seasoned experienced player in your first or second year. We see it with mcdonald, watts and jetta who have all ridden inconsistencies until the 100 game stage.

Go outside, kick a rock around the street for a bit and cool down , we have improved immensely under roos tenure and next year we will improve again with more training, more development in the gym and more Simon Goodwin led stability. 

Go dees.

[Maldonboy38 6,403]

I did not think we would win today but I did not see that result coming. I actually feel embarrassed: for Roos, for our jumper, for our struggling supporter base.

And for the first time in a couple of seasons, I am beginning to question our onfield leadership. 

[JV7 2,351]

You've all lost the plot.... People saying we haven't improved in 3 years. Pfffft. Get a grip!! Yeah we got flogged, yes we didn't give Roosy one last hurrah. We were playing against an experienced side on there home deck which apart from last year is a hell hole for us & not to mention their fine tuning for an assault on a premiership & playing for a top 2 finish. Yeah the effort & endeavor wasn't there but once again look at the age of the 22 today, as bad as it sounds they would have had one eye on the end of the year, it's only natural. 

How far we've come in Roos tenure & in the last 12 months holds us in good stead for next year. Today's result wasn't the make or break of 3 years of hard work... Thank god for some of you the seasons over, you need the break more than the players. See you in trade week. 

[deejammin' 2,370]

So Roosy said in his final pressed that the things that show clear improvement this year were a percentage over 100, gone as of today, back down into the 90s. 

A team that had been more consistently in games including not getting belted in losses, that ended with the biggest belting of the last 3 years (and Roosy's career). 

And that the best win of his tenure was the one over GWS in round 23 last year as it set up a huge preseason. Well we now go into this preseason with the beginning of an untried coach with an demoralising, soulless performance.

Ive seen improvement this year and genuinely enjoyed being a MFC supporter for the first time in ages and 3 weeks ago I would have told you that even if we were  to lose the last two games we would be competitive and show a lot to look forward to next year. Now I'm honestly not so sure, it seems we still haven't turned the corner and that if there has been any internal quiet change over to Goodwin these last two weeks things look worrying for his tenure.

Typical MFC to turn such a promising year into such tripe. 

 

[Biffen 12,944]

7 minutes ago, McQueen said:

Just pathetic. My mother who is a Geelong supporter dragged my Dad, who is an MFC supporter along to this game. He doesn't get out to see many games and when he does this [censored] is served up.

So disappointing.

I'm sure your old man has had worse disappointments Steve.