POST MATCH DISCUSSION - Round 11

[beelzebub 23,240]

It wasn't the factor that lost us the game as credit where it's due Hawthorn won it .

However, the umpiring generally waxedf from curious to atrocious summed up poignantly by the Bernie report.

We really seem to cop it from  the maggots 

[olisik 4,060]

1 minute ago, S_T said:

Lol, you think number of posts equals significance.....

He brought it up, don't hate the follow up. 

[Demonised 1,316]

I would have liked to win this one.

[fr_ap 2,435]

3 minutes ago, olisik said:

This coming from a guy with 21 posts. Mate your opinion doesn't even matter.

and yes I was at the game and close enough to hear the slapping sound of Dawes hands on the ball 

Dont normally get sucked into this stuff on here but you absolutely need to pull your head in.

You want to talk stats and number of posts, your ratio of posts to likes will do. On average less than half of your posts get a single like, so it seems your opinion doesnt hold the sway you think it does.

[DemonOX 8,732]

1 minute ago, WattsUp2312 said:

Much better than last week, however, really didn't play the smarts after Watts goal in Q3.

Great story on Trenners...however, they'll need to think through how to get pace back into him.

we also need to find a midfielder with pace...who can really burst the line.

 

 

Could Hunt go in to midfield with his pace??

Edited June 4, 2016 by DemonOX

[Adam The God 29,635]

12 minutes ago, Steno said:

Olisik and Adam; did you go to the game today? 

 

Combined you you have over 10,000 posts but thinking maybe you only have time to post and not actually truely watch footy?

Everyone around us thought he was ordinary too. I go every week, mate. Sit down.

[WattsUp2312 63]

Just now, DemonOX said:

Could Hunt go intimate midfield with his pace??

I think so - play like The role that Hill from Hawthorn can play.  Need Lumumba back to see if that can work

[The heart beats true 17,904]

10 minutes ago, Forest Demon said:

I don't know about anybody else, but I absolutely lost my [censored] when that [censored] #40 got that free right in front for an absolutely blatant duck, scores level 5 minutes into the last quarter.

That was the moment where I decided that ducking your head needs to be a free kick against. The issue is that he's ANOTHER first gamer - which means it's infiltrated the way kids play. 

Take the ball off the player that ducks. If you choose to duck then you give the ball up. Simple and takes away the 'try your luck' mentality that is being coached into players that get tackled.

 

[Wiseblood 24,637]

Just now, S_T said:

Lol, you think number of posts equals significance.....

The problem for Olisik is that Steno's 21 posts have had far more relevance than 4,000 odd of his.

[Webber 10,442]

1 hour ago, AdamFarr said:

Chris Dawes cannot play again. His inability to take marks directly resulted in 4 goals that I counted. Absolute disgrace.

Utter garbage AF. He presented and at least broke even at every marking contest on an appalling day for marking forwards. There was not one marking opportunity he had that wasn't contested. He was physical and brought others into the game. The kind of hyperbole you spit is simply ridiculous. 

[Wiseblood 24,637]

Just now, AdamFarr said:

Everyone around us thought he was ordinary too. I go every week, mate. Sit down.

Game, set and match then.  A few fans at the game thought he was ordinary so that must seal the deal.

[beelzebub 23,240]

4 minutes ago, DemonOX said:

Could Hunt go in to midfield with his pace??

Might be a very good outside in the making with this lad.

[iv'a worn smith 1,979]

settle down girls and have another pimms.  We don't need a cat fight on here.  Farrking hell

 

 

 

 

[Ungarie boy 233]

7 minutes ago, fr_ap said:

Not just you mate. Small pocket of us went absolutely sick. Got told by the woman i stamptont of me to 'calm down' as  she patted my leg.

They must coach the umpires better. You could see them today hesitate on these calls i think after the furore during the week..but then they called it anyway. Afl must sort it out its becoming a real issue. Its the kids who are doing it too, they are clearly being coached. Sicily got 3 free kicks from it today.

 

Yes you are right the kids are doing it now with much tbe same result; even to the extent of push and shove melles breaking out as players get frustrated with the blatant cheating. Last week iI saw a kid get carried of the field when it all went wrong.  The AFL will lose players at this level if they dont stamp it out quickly 

[dl4e 5,851]

19 minutes ago, defuture15 said:

Try seeing the 70s and 80s flogings!

Im disappointed about the result but dawes trenners and VB will be better for the run.

 

Mate I was alive and well in the 70s and 80s and remember those years well. It all adds up on one another. Today just got to me.

[beelzebub 23,240]

2 minutes ago, iv'a worn smith said:

settle down girls and have another pimms.  We don't need a cat fight on here.  Farrking hell

Apologies to Sue Jane Jaded and others of course 

[Lil_red_fire_engine 10,881]

We gave it a good crack but was simply outclassed and outrun in the last. Tyson best game I can recall. Frost looked a lot better back as did we with him there. Expect we will get them next time with Viney and a bit more experience.

[Moonshadow 17,576]

1 hour ago, 93dee said:

I thought he played a good match. 

Great to have another forward line option. Competes hard. We're a better team with him in.

Yes. We are a better team with Dawes' 10 disposals and 35 spilt marks 

[Adam The God 29,635]

9 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Game, set and match then.  A few fans at the game thought he was ordinary so that must seal the deal.

No, that was my opinion. And others around us. So let's not act like he had a good game, because he didn't.

And to say he broke even at every contest is a simplistic view of contested footy. He didn't get to enough contests. The main contests he got to were stationary contests, where the ball was kicked on his head. That makes it tough to mark, particularly in the wet.

I lost count of the number of times Gawn or Hogan looked up the line and Dawes was on the other wing. Now unless this was under instruction, it means Dawes wasn't where he should have been.

Why is it that Hogan or Pedersen rarely seem to have balls kicked on top of their heads the whole time? It's usually just Dawes. He doesn't cover the ground well enough. He chases hard and does his best, but that doesn't mean it's good enough.

Edited June 4, 2016 by AdamFarr

[buck_nekkid 5,829]

Chunk was rushed and turned the ball over way too often.  Yes, he cracked in, but I think I counted 8 times his exit kicks from contests were either direct to opposition or provided no advantage.

Hogans bounce... Trac's handball when he should have kicked it.  Does my head in.

garlett had an absolute dog.  He did work hard and made multiple contests in the first quarter, but near goal he was useless.

we were dumb as a team coming out from half back.  The number of times we took a poor option and turned it straight back over drove me nuts.  Frost x 3.

that duck to get the free kick was a disgrace.  An absolute disgrace.

we made better contests, stopped them for most of the day taking marks inside 50 and worked so much harder than last week.

disappointed we didn't win, but the team is definitely one that is learning to play against the better teams, and is not far off matching it with them.

[Forest Demon 4,681]

24 minutes ago, H_T said:

From the game day thread:

Not sure why you thought that of Hodge. I didn't see him all day....

Apologies, I had a Basil and got the names wrong, I meant Mitchell and Lewis.

Those two in particular looked to take extra long to get up from each knock today.

Edited June 4, 2016 by Forest Demon

[Wiseblood 24,637]

Just now, AdamFarr said:

No, that was my opinion. And others around us. So let's not act like he had a good game, because he didn't.

And to say he broke even at every contest is a simplistic view of contested footy. He didn't get to enough contests. The main contests he got to were stationary contests, where the ball was kicked on his head. That makes it tough to mark, particularly in the wet.

I lost count of the number of times Gawn or Hogan looked up the line and Dawes was on the other wing. Now unless this was under instruction, it means Dawes wasn't where he should have been.

Never said he had a good game, just arguing that he didn't have a bad one.  There are grey areas in between.

Sure, he could have clunked a few more marks, but having a few defenders hanging off you all day doesn't help.  Each time he was asked to give a good contest he did so, on some occasions locking the ball up when he was outnumbered.

Dawes had more touches than Hogan today as well, meaning he probably got to more contests than he did.  Let me make it clear that I'm not arguing that he had a good game, just that the knocks on him aren't necessarily warranted.

[Monocology 1,109]

13 minutes ago, AdamFarr said:

Everyone around us thought he was ordinary too. I go every week, mate. Sit down.

Great posting singling out Dawes. Anything else to add?

[H_T 3,036]

1 minute ago, buck_nekkid said:

Chunk was rushed and turned the ball over way too often.  Yes, he cracked in, but I think I counted 8 times his exit kicks from contests were either direct to opposition.

I love the skipper, but I do agree with this. There were a few hot handed handballs too that put his teammates under the pump.

[Moonshadow 17,576]

28 minutes ago, olisik said:

This coming from a guy with 21 posts. Mate your opinion doesn't even matter.

and yes I was at the game and close enough to hear the slapping sound of Dawes hands on the ball 

If you think post count means jack you are a fool