Changes vs Essendon

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7 hours ago, John Dee said:

Dunn for Omac

Brayshaw for Oliver; I would like to see him rested.

I want some of what your on

[Whispering_Jack 27,981]

When Dean Kent came off late in the game he appeared to be limping. He wasn't reported as injured in the media and it could be nothing but I'd like to see if he comes up as fit during the week.

 

[Webber 10,061]

There is no chance Tyson or Bugg get dropped, for those who have that delusion. Oscar injured, Harmes played poorly. Dunn or Lumumba in for Oscar, Gus for Harmes. 

[Je Roos Salem 661]

As long as Gus comes in. Presuming O Mac will miss then Dunn is the obvious replacement (And so Salem doesn't have to kick it in every time). Bugg and Tyson, I think Tyson will have to up his game as someone will surely be nudged out of the midfield. 

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2 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

When Dean Kent came off late in the game he appeared to be limping. He wasn't reported as injured in the media and it could be nothing but I'd like to see if he comes up as fit during the week.

 

He was cramping in his hammy

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,202]

11 hours ago, Moneider96 said:

You guys reckon Garlett will get off for his hit on Davis?

Could get 1 for stupidity. It wasn't necessary but hopefully he just gets a fine.

[Forest Demon 4,681]

Despite the win, there were a few players who were sub par. The lack of a VFL game this week might save a few.

I think OMac out for Dunn, if injured, seems straight forward.

Brayshaw and Lumumba are probably close, so maybe Harmes. Lumumba for Matt Jones would have seemed likely, but Matt Jones has earned his spot and was good again yesterday, so he has to stay in.

 

[Nasher 33,047]

Matt Jones on current form is cemented 22 - I don't think his name should have even appeared in this thread to be honest. 

The only players who need to watch over their shoulders at this stage are Harmes, Bugg, OMac and one of Frost/Pedersen in my opinion. 

[Forest Demon 4,681]

4 minutes ago, Nasher said:

Matt Jones on current form is cemented 22 - I don't think his name should have even appeared in this thread to be honest. 

The only players who need to watch over their shoulders at this stage are Harmes, Bugg, OMac and one of Frost/Pedersen in my opinion. 

Agreed. I feel bad for throwing his name out there. Was more meaning before the season, you would have swapped him out for Lumumba on paper, but going on form in the pre season and yesterday, there is no way he gets dropped.

[dazzledavey36 48,772]

They won't drop Bugg. He is exactly the type Roos is screaming for when he says that he fits the competitive type category. 

His nab form was actually really good. Expect him to bounce back.

Some have mention the possibility of Lumumba coming in and releasing Vince back into the midfield which is really a fair enough argument. While i like Vince down back i feel we just lack that real class and skill around the stoppages yesterday.

Because its Essendon its not a bad opportunity for Lumumba to really get some miles in the legs.

IN: Dunn Lumumba

OUT: Omac Frost

[Lucifers Hero 37,072]

Silly talk to drop Tyson!

The kid has played only 52 games so he is still in the development phase of his career.  He will learn, he will come good. 

About half of his mfc games he played with injury.  The team needed him out there. 

He has earnt the right to play himself into form:  In the seniors!!

Edited March 26, 2016 by Lucifer's Hero

[Gipsy Danger 1,067]

Out: OMac, Bugg/Harmes

in: Brayshaw, Petracca

 

Frost to go back to cover OMac. I think he'd be a. Better defender than forward. Plus with Pedo, Watts and Hogan forward, were tall enough.

brayshaw in for either Bugg or Harmes. Not that either have done a lot wrong, I just think Gus is better.

unlesh Petracca across the half forward line

[Gipsy Danger 1,067]

5 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

When Dean Kent came off late in the game he appeared to be limping. He wasn't reported as injured in the media and it could be nothing but I'd like to see if he comes up as fit during the week.

 

Looked like just cramping by the way the physio was working him on the bench. Was watching pretty closely when he came limping off

[Lil_red_fire_engine 10,185]

18 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Silly talk to drop Tyson!

The kid has played only 52 games so he is still in the development phase of his career.  He will learn, he will come good. 

About half of his mfc games he played with injury.  The team needed him out there. 

He has earnt the right to play himself into form:  In the seniors!!

The position we are finding ourselves in is unless you are in form you don't play. Development on deficiencies can be done at Casey. He was a liability on the spread yesterday and his execution was appalling. I don't expect him to be dropped this week but players will make way for quality inclusions over coming weeks and he would be in the 4 most likely based on yesterday's outing. 

[Lil_red_fire_engine 10,185]

6 minutes ago, Hellfish said:

Out: OMac, Bugg/Harmes

in: Brayshaw, Petracca

 

Frost to go back to cover OMac. I think he'd be a. Better defender than forward. Plus with Pedo, Watts and Hogan forward, were tall enough.

brayshaw in for either Bugg or Harmes. Not that either have done a lot wrong, I just think Gus is better.

unlesh Petracca across the half forward line

Interesting when O-Mac went down we went with Pedo back and persevered with Frost forward. The forwardline certainly functioned better with one less tall but I would swapped it the other way.

[whatwhat say what 18,977]

i'd say the only certain change is o mac out injured for dunn. o mac wasn't even that bad yesterday.

 

we desperately need some outside pace - when garlett moved up on to scully on the wing we finally had someone who could run and carry with the pill, which is why you'd think garlett would be a chance.

 

i personally can't see pedo or frost being omitted; the forward structure with those two plus hogan and watts is working okay, and the pace of frost is an added dimension.

 

harmes might be in trouble for brayshaw's re-inclusion in the side, but if garlett goes for his hit (which might happen but would be pretty ridiculous as there was nothing in it), then he stays.

 

as such, i'm thinking changes are minimal:

 

out: oscar mcdonald (injured), harmes

in: dunn, brayshaw

[FarNorthernD 5,840]

No change, unless forced by injury.

That was a great win. GWS will be a finals wide this year and, as acknowledged by others, any Demon side from the past decade would have folded and lost by 40+. You don't drop players after a game like that, you reward them

[beelzebub 22,225]

16 hours ago, stuie said:

Let's not get seduced by a win, we were lucky to get the points and a fair few underperformed.

OUT: OMac (injured), Harmes, Pedo

IN: Brayshaw, Lumumba, Dunn

Love Harmesy, but he just looked not ready for the step up in pace and his awareness and decision making was poor. Forward line was 100x better without Pedo, plus he could barely get his feet off the ground when running in the second half.

Bugg, Frost and Tyson all need to lift next week.

 

Actually..... I agree. Make it so

[rpfc 27,476]

1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Silly talk to drop Tyson!

The kid has played only 52 games so he is still in the development phase of his career.  He will learn, he will come good. 

About half of his mfc games he played with injury.  The team needed him out there. 

He has earnt the right to play himself into form:  In the seniors!!

Being dropped is not the end of a career.

And at some point we have got to get to the point where talented kids earn their spot and are not afforded the opportunity to 'play themselves back into form in the seniors.'

Roos has brought an emotionless honesty to this club. Tyson better pull his finger out, there is too much talent on this list to coast.

[Biffen 12,327]

Oscar Mac is still a rabbit in the headlights.

Harmes was good I thought.

Although Matt Jones does the right things most of the time he is too easily beaten one on one.

 

[rpfc 27,476]

Attn: MFC Selection Committee

Pick one of Frost or Pedersen - both are not required. Don't give a flying which one, just make sure they take their bloke away from Hogan.

Oscar. Was. Not. Ready.

OUT: O McDonald, Frost/Pedersen

IN: Dunn/Lumumba, Brayshaw

 

 

[Satyriconhome 9,982]

Harmes     listen to his interrview after the game   which comes after the meeting      "I played my role"   he would have already had feedback   calling for him to be dropped just to get Brayshaw in os silly   Brayshaw needs a full run at Casey    the one I thought was below par and ran out of petrol yesterday was VDB  lucky that tired kick was sheperded thru by Hogan

Edited March 27, 2016 by Satyriconhome

[nutbean 8,837]

2 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Harmes     listen to his interrview after the game   which comes after the meeting      "I played my role"   he would have already had feedback   calling for him to be dropped just to get Brayshaw in os silly   Brayshaw needs a full run at Casey    the one I thought was below par and ran out of petrol yesterday was VDB  lucky that tired kick was sheperded thru by Hogan

Disagree on one thing. Feedback - there may have been basic comments come back but the real feedback comes after they have done the match review. I was talking to an assistant at another club and the review of the game can take 3 to 4 times as long as the actual game as they dissect plays and setups with a fine tooth comb. When they review the game with the players they don't show them the entire game - they see edits to highlight good aspects and poor aspects highlighting what they should and shouldn't be doing. The real feedback comes after the review is done. The assistant mentioned that at first he was amazed at how much the coaches actually miss during the pressure cooker of the actual game. Any feedback immediately post game would be basic and broad.

[Webber 10,061]

17 minutes ago, Biffen said:

Oscar Mac is still a rabbit in the headlights.

Harmes was good I thought.

Although Matt Jones does the right things most of the time he is too easily beaten one on one.

 

And yet Matt Jones is almost NEVER beaten one on one. Even when he was apparently a turnover merchant last year, his one on one wins were a highlight. Who are you watching? 

[chook fowler 18,243]

Interesting to see M Jones 95% disposal efficiency and T Mac 91% - that is a quantum leap.