The combined Jaeger O'Meara and Dion Prestia Thread

[Good Times Grimes 2,396]

11 hours ago, Nasher said:

Nup.

I believe we only have to make 2 first round selections over a four year period. 

[Mach5 4,767]

14 hours ago, Nasher said:

Nup.

The rules are complex and verging on comtradictory, but I believe in 2015 alone we've fulfilled our quota of using 2 x 1st round selections in a 4 year period, therefore we can trade our 2017 1st rounder in 2016.

I think.

[Nasher 33,607]

14 hours ago, It's Time said:

Yep

Yep.

[jumbo returns 6,740]

Handy pick up if it happens.

But, 2016 is looking very handy...

[beelzebub 23,313]

3 hours ago, Good Times Grimes said:

I believe we only have to make 2 first round selections over a four year period. 

Thats  correct..Its going to be interesting over time as the rolling caveat comes into play...i/e as the 4 year period rule slides over the oncoming seasons. Clubs will really need to keep wits about them lest they fly too close and come unstuck.   I can easily foresee a draft /trade period where a club(s) will be stymied from doing their preferred option simply because they would then run foul of these new regs. Interesting times ahead.

[CBDees 3,167]

I think that many Demonlanders are unnecessarily negative about our trading of next year's first round pick. Hopefully it will be pick 11-13 in any event, mostly due to us picking up Oliver with pick 3 this year!

[monoccular 17,413]

On 8 December 2015 at 7:31 PM, Frank Grimes said:

Don't see how someone can return to somewhere they're not from

The article actually stated..."...Suns had almost accepted the fact O'Meara would be moving to Melbourne at the end of next season.....", not returning to.   

Unfortunately it did not say to Melbourne .

[daisycutter 29,604]

8 minutes ago, monoccular said:

The article actually stated..."...Suns had almost accepted the fact O'Meara would be moving to Melbourne at the end of next season.....", not returning to.   

Unfortunately it did not say to Melbourne .

mono, others have said that the original article has since been edited to say moving 

[Demi Dee 578]

7 hours ago, beelzebub said:

Thats  correct..Its going to be interesting over time as the rolling caveat comes into play...i/e as the 4 year period rule slides over the oncoming seasons. Clubs will really need to keep wits about them lest they fly too close and come unstuck.   I can easily foresee a draft /trade period where a club(s) will be stymied from doing their preferred option simply because they would then run foul of these new regs. Interesting times ahead.

So no recruiters named Iccarus. 

[Redleg 40,843]

I hope we are at the stage, where Prestia if we get him, is icing on the cake, rather than a main ingredient. That would probably enhance our chances of getting him anyway.

More importantly for me, Jesse, please sign a long extended contract with us.

Edited December 13, 2015 by Redleg

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

4 hours ago, Redleg said:

I hope we are at the stage, where Prestia if we get him, is icing on the cake, rather than a main ingredient. That would probably enhance our chances of getting him anyway.

More importantly for me, Jesse, please sign a long extended contract with us.

he's a main ingredient player though

[ILLDieADemon 804]

This will be a massive lose for GC.

Will the AFL allow this to happen to their baby? 

Edited December 13, 2015 by ILLDieADemon

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

13 minutes ago, ILLDieADemon said:

This will be a massive lose loss for GC.

Will the AFL allow this to happen to there their baby? 

 

[monoccular 17,413]

9 hours ago, ILLDieADemon said:

This will be a massive lose for GC.

Will the AFL allow this to happen to their baby? 

Your are surely not suggesting that the AFL would ever make up rules on the run to support some of their favored clubs, are you?

Not a body as deeply committed to integrity and transparency like the AFL?

Burn the heretic! :-)

[Hobbits's 17]

On 12/11/2015 at 9:46 PM, Dr. Gonzo said:

There's nothing concrete other than we're after him along with several other clubs. We're in with a chance but that's it at this stage.

Just as I thought Doc.

[Lucifers Hero 39,600]

'It was a pretty serious injury': Jaeger no certainty for round one 

It seems that O'Meara won't be playing round - still recovering from knee injuries.

They seem optimistic Prestia will play round 1.

TBH, I think I prefer our own home-grown talent than chase that from other clubs.  Setting aside injuries and their trade value, I'm not sure how we would fit them into the salary cap and still keep our gung-ho, young talent who will not be cheap to keep. 

[scarlett 247]

21 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

TBH, I think I prefer our own home-grown talent than chase that from other clubs.  Setting aside injuries and their trade value, I'm not sure how we would fit them into the salary cap and still keep our gung-ho, young talent who will not be cheap to keep. 

 sounds so much like everyone on here back in 2010, "but if we pay scully x amount how will we afford strauss, tapscot, morton and gys?" please stop.

[Lucifers Hero 39,600]

50 minutes ago, scarlett said:

this sounds so much like everyone on here back in 2010, "but if we pay scully x amount how will we afford strauss, tapscot, morton and gys?" please stop.

So you think Brayshaw, Hogan, Petracca, Viney, Salem etc etc are going to turn out like those guys?  I don't think so.  The guys you mention couldn't even get regular games let alone command a high salary.  

As I said, I prefer to look after our own home grown talent than chase that from other clubs.  Just my preference.

Edited December 16, 2015 by Lucifer's Hero

[Gator 17,281]

20 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

So you think Brayshaw, Hogan, Petracca, Viney, Salem etc etc are going to turn out like those guys?  I don't think so.  The guys you mention couldn't even get regular games let alone command a high salary.  

As I said, I prefer to look after our own home grown talent than chase that from other clubs.  Just my preference.

I prefer the club to build the best list possible. 

Burgoyne, Lake, Gunston, Frawley.  Just build a better list.

[deanox 9,898]

If Prestia is coming to us it will be because he sees us as a genuine finals threat. 

In that case he'll take salary commiserate with his position on the list. Top 10 player, somewhere in the top group of mids including Jones, Vince, Viney and in the future Brayshaw.

They know they can't demand massive salaries at clubs that are going somewhere, and given his melbourne connection I'm confident we'll get him unless GCS through mega bucks at him. 

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

1 hour ago, deanox said:

If Prestia is coming to us it will be because he sees us as a genuine finals threat. 

In that case he'll take salary commiserate with his position on the list. Top 10 player, somewhere in the top group of mids including Jones, Vince, Viney and in the future Brayshaw.

They know they can't demand massive salaries at clubs that are going somewhere, and given his melbourne connection I'm confident we'll get him unless GCS through mega bucks at him. 

That s absolute crazy talk. There is not one player in the league that will come to us for LESS than they could be getting elsewhere - to the contrary, whoever comes to us needs to be getting a bit over their market value to compensate for the various disadvantages that come with playing for us. That's why Dawes, Lumumba and now even Melksham are making out like bandits. In general I still think the average joe is massively deluded in the role that on-field success has in these player movements. Along with 'family reasons' it is generally a smokescreen for the real reason which is coin.

[Adam The God 30,129]

1 hour ago, deanox said:

If Prestia is coming to us it will be because he sees us as a genuine finals threat. 

In that case he'll take salary commiserate with his position on the list. Top 10 player, somewhere in the top group of mids including Jones, Vince, Viney and in the future Brayshaw.

They know they can't demand massive salaries at clubs that are going somewhere, and given his melbourne connection I'm confident we'll get him unless GCS through mega bucks at him. 

He'd be our best midfielder straight away, by quite a margin. Only Hogan would be ahead of him in terms of Top 10 players.

Edited December 16, 2015 by AdamFarr

[deanox 9,898]

21 minutes ago, Curry & Beer said:

That s absolute crazy talk. There is not one player in the league that will come to us for LESS than they could be getting elsewhere - to the contrary, whoever comes to us needs to be getting a bit over their market value to compensate for the various disadvantages that come with playing for us. That's why Dawes, Lumumba and now even Melksham are making out like bandits. In general I still think the average joe is massively deluded in the role that on-field success has in these player movements. Along with 'family reasons' it is generally a smokescreen for the real reason which is coin.

I'm not sure I agree re player movements.  Did Frawley go to Hawthorn for more money? I really believe a lot of players move for success. 

 

We'd offer Prestia more than Hawthorn or Geelong could afford. And given Collingwoo/Treloar this year I expect them too. 

Of the other vic clubs, I think he would command a pretty similar salary anywhere.  If someone offers him crazy money well yeah,  take it,  but if we are in the ball park, we won't pay overs at the expense of our current list. I.e. double his true last value. And i don't think he's expect it. 

[Willmoy1947 4,081]

Good mail FLAG. Tar

[MrReims 313]

2 hours ago, AdamFarr said:

He'd be our best midfielder straight away, by quite a margin. Only Hogan would be ahead of him in terms of Top 10 players.

I think is incorrect, rock solid yes, best midfielder no.