POST MATCH DISCUSSION - Round 18

[Sir Why You Little 36,630]

grimes like some of our players is still work in progress, he has some good skills but also has some deficiencies that can hopefully be resolved in the coming years.

Grimes is an average footballer with courage

He would be slaughtered in September....

[Chook 14,997]

Grimes is an average footballer with courage

He would be slaughtered in September....

And a skilled footballer with no guts wouldn’t get slaughtered?

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

I'm currently watching the replay and I'd forgotten just how good Jetta was yesterday.

He's such a smart footballer and quickly becoming an important leader at the club too.

[What 18,810]

I'm currently watching the replay and I'd forgotten just how good Jetta was yesterday.

Yeah i just watched it too and the backline quartet of McDonald-Dunn-Jetta-Garland was unbelievable

Grimes and Dawes were also good

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Yeah i just watched it too and the backline quartet of McDonald-Dunn-Jetta-Garland was unbelievable

Grimes and Dawes were also good

Grimes was a liability with ball in hand but he didn't give up.

Edited August 2, 2015 by Clint Bizkit

[jnrmac 19,892]

Couldn't agree more

its so bloody annoying.. Its always cos the other team sucked its never that we won fairly and squarely or that we forced them into playing below par

Some people just cant seem to give us credit

Ha ha teams that get beaten by Melbourne are always "in crisis" Makes me laugh!

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Michie looked shattered when he was subbed out of the game.

I really hope he gets another chance next week.

[Guest]

Michie looked shattered when he was subbed out of the game.

I really hope he gets another chance next week.

May I ask why though? He's never shown anything. Slow, not a great user of the ball, has been constantly pulled up on the fact he doesn't run two ways. I just don't see a guy who has the tools to be a good AFL footballer.

Yes I know he hasn't had a huge number of opportunities, but he has been far from convincing when he's had the chance.

[old dee 23,492]

Watched the game on Foxtel earlier today for the first time these are my impressions.

WE BLOODY WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

- I am no big fan of Grimes but I thought he played well enough to keep his spot and was badly treat in a couple of umpiring decisions in the first half.

- Dawes played a lot better but you would not want to be hanging on his over head marking skills and his kicking for goal continued on from where it left off last week. Poor.

- Tyson played a lot better yesterday.

- The leavers both played well IMO I hope they stay.

I guess it is easy when you know the result but we always looked better than the Pies

The big one for me were the Foxtel commentators mainly Eddy he is just a fan club for the Pies there is not the slightest attempt to be impartial.

Half way through the second quarter I turned off the sound.

How Foxtel can let that crap go to air is beyond me.

I turned it back on early in the last quarter to hear him bleed.

Go Dees

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

May I ask why though? He's never shown anything. Slow, not a great user of the ball, has been constantly pulled up on the fact he doesn't run two ways. I just don't see a guy who has the tools to be a good AFL footballer.

Yes I know he hasn't had a huge number of opportunities, but he has been far from convincing when he's had the chance.

Because he's rarely had an extended run of games in row.

[mikeydemon 126]

The thing that is currently exciting me about this team is we're starting to really shape up as having a good even list, albeit with a few deficiencies, but i feel we're quite close to fixing the holes that still remain on our list

The way i see it we're still 6 players short of a genuine side.
2 skillful half backs
2 quick, line breaking mids who use the ball well
1 marking key forward to pinch hit in the ruck
1 small forward to apply more forward pressure and kick ~20 goals a season

i feel we already have 3 of these players on our list in Salem (skillful half back), Petracca (line breaking mid), Kent (small forward)

Hopefully the second mid comes from pick 5ish/rumored A grade mid (prestia/motlop would be ideal)

With OMac and Frost as defensive backup/ replacement for the ageing Dunn and Garland and hopefully Trengove to come back and provide another midfielder. Meaning we only need another good kick off half back and a Dawes replacement and we have a list that is ready to push for finals in the next two years.

......or it could be another false dawn and we stay down the bottom for another few years .

But a kid can dream

[old dee 23,492]

The thing that is currently exciting me about this team is we're starting to really shape up as having a good even list, albeit with a few deficiencies, but i feel we're quite close to fixing the holes that still remain on our list

The way i see it we're still 6 players short of a genuine side.

2 skillful half backs

2 quick, line breaking mids who use the ball well

1 marking key forward to pinch hit in the ruck

1 small forward to apply more forward pressure and kick ~20 goals a season

i feel we already have 3 of these players on our list in Salem (skillful half back), Petracca (line breaking mid), Kent (small forward)

Hopefully the second mid comes from pick 5ish/rumored A grade mid (prestia/motlop would be ideal)

With OMac and Frost as defensive backup/ replacement for the ageing Dunn and Garland and hopefully Trengove to come back and provide another midfielder. Meaning we only need another good kick off half back and a Dawes replacement and we have a list that is ready to push for finals in the next two years.

......or it could be another false dawn and we stay down the bottom for another few years .

But a kid can dream

Last time I checked there was no law against it.

Edited August 2, 2015 by old dee

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

With OMac and Frost as defensive backup/ replacement for the ageing Dunn and Garland and hopefully Trengove to come back and provide another midfielder. Meaning we only need another good kick off half back and a Dawes replacement and we have a list that is ready to push for finals in the next two years.

Dunn and Garland are in their prime.

[chook fowler 19,251]

Our backline has looked much better since Garland has come back - really hope we retain him.

Undervalued 3+

[Demon trucker 1,800]

Teams going fine to many it's the end of the world posters after a lose.

[Gator 17,249]

...The big one for me were the Foxtel commentators mainly Eddy he is just a fan club for the Pies there is not the slightest attempt to be impartial.

Half way through the second quarter I turned off the sound.

You're funny.

[monoccular 17,320]

Watching the replay on fox footy. All pro Collingwood commentators unashamedly biased in their call. Why do we have to put up with this? What a disgrace Eddie McGuire is? How can Fox Footy get away with this? Have to watch it on mute.

It was a special thing they occasionally do called "Press Red for Ed", where instead of listening to normal commentary, you can listen to purposely biased commentary,

But I don't think there is the option for the delayed replay.

Bloody disgusting.

Have emailed Fox - no doubt will get the usual corporate 'your valuable input..... etc ' crap.

Watched the game on Foxtel earlier today for the first time these are my impressions.

WE BLOODY WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

- I am no big fan of Grimes but I thought he played well enough to keep his spot and was badly treat in a couple of umpiring decisions in the first half.

- Dawes played a lot better but you would not want to be hanging on his over head marking skills and his kicking for goal continued on from where it left off last week. Poor.

- Tyson played a lot better yesterday.

- The leavers both played well IMO I hope they stay.

I guess it is easy when you know the result but we always looked better than the Pies

The big one for me were the Foxtel commentators mainly Eddy he is just a fan club for the Pies there is not the slightest attempt to be impartial.

Half way through the second quarter I turned off the sound.

How Foxtel can let that crap go to air is beyond me.

I turned it back on early in the last quarter to hear him bleed.

Go Dees

If Salem got through the VFL today fit and well I guess he could threaten Grimes though he did OK yesterday I thought.

[Deestroy All 14,262]

I'm currently watching the replay and I'd forgotten just how good Jetta was yesterday.

He's such a smart footballer and quickly becoming an important leader at the club too.

He has that extra time without moving anywhere like Pendles and Mitchell.

Loved his 60 metre (ok maybe 50m) spoils too.

Cracking player. Different player to Wrecker but has that same sort of presence and fan love.

[nrc73 77]

Just watched the entire game, came to following conclusions:

- Grimes no longer has a future in the side. He was asked by the coaches to work on run out of the back line but does not have this skill and agree he lacks the awareness. His mistakes are morale destroying.

- Noticed Dawes being overlooked as a lead a number of times. His team mates no longer trust him and its the body language and way team mates interact with him that make it obvious his team mate don't rate him.

- Missed too many shots (maybe half a dozen) and were lucky Collingwood did the same.. In a closer game this would have created a lot of pressure

- Agree Jetta possibly the most important of the back line based on his ability intercept and mobility.

- The back line did well, but Collingwood were running with the youngest, most inexperienced forward line seen in many years

- Desperately need Frost or Peterson or backup ruck. Gawn most improved player but a long way off having the tank for a full game with this new intensity.

- A less predictable forward line crucial. Very clear that Watts team mates look to him for good delivery into forward lines but its very clear that Vince and Brayshaw are the best at delivering to the forwards

- Viney just doesn't let up all day long. A gem.

[dazzledavey36 52,744]

Was watching a bit of the replay today but does anyone think Brayshaw has really starting to put some size on his frame. Looks much more solid around the legs and even his arms are starting to get a bit of definition.

Even Jesse Hogan looks alot bigger aswell. Gonna be some big boys running around for us in the next couple of years.

[Deevout 490]

You been on the porn sites again picket?

Watching us beat the Pies at our ground and listening to Eddie cry on the Foxtel replay gives a guy the same result as watching Porn.

[Je Roos Salem 661]

Maybe I'm just noticing his movement more than his disposal, but I don't mind Grimes at the moment. Definitely standing out more than he's been for the past few years, I think his instability in the 22 has given him fire in the belly.

I'm starting to see belief in Garland, just needs to keep his head up and not get dispirited.

Great weekend for our back 6, I'd love to see it every week though. Just have to work out how to stop the monster forwards when they rear their ugly heads

[Gorgoroth 12,705]

On Grimes he was put under the pump three times by the mid way of the 3rd quarter.

One thing I have seen in this game is more shepherds and blocks than I have seen all year.

[What 18,810]

Jack Viney on the Sunday Footy Show

http://www.9jumpin.com.au/show/aflsundayfootyshow/videos/4393014886001/

[Bitter but optimistic 22,065]

Watching us beat the Pies at our ground and listening to Eddie cry on the Foxtel replay gives a guy the same result as watching Porn.

Errr well ... not quite!