Is Goodwin safe?

[Demon3 2,541]

In the light of the tragic circumstances of Phil Walsh, and now that sadly the Adelaide crows are in need of a senior coach, I wonder who might be on their list when they get to that point.

It was well documented that Adelaide did sound out Simon Goodwin before they went down the track of appointing their coach. As it turns out Simon had accepted in principle Melbournes offer, and in a good sign, Simon did not reneg on any offer, and I have no reason to think that he won't be our coach.

But I would not be surprised that if Adelaide ask the question, a heartbroken club that who knows may not recover, might ask a favourite son to consider coming home and help rebuild a club.

[Moneider96 1,045]

It won't happen. Don't worry.

[DemonOX 8,581]

Thought never occurred to me tbh.

He has a job.

[Old Man Rivers 326]

Bizzare thinking happening here.

He has a job, he has a contract but most importantly he has a mission.

[Ethan Tremblay 28,935]

I think it would be in very poor form to lure Goodwin to the Crows in these circumstances. It won't happen.

[Mazer Rackham 14,970]

I'd be more worried about CAS than the (very sad) Walsh situation.

[WhyAlwaysMe 237]

Why would they bother, we obviously paid overs for him, Crows would have to better it.

And he still has his training wheels on.

[Demon3 2,541]

All fair enough, and I'm of the same opinion that nothing will happen, just chatting with a few mates about it, and i I just said it wouldn't surprise me if we hear that a polite enquiry was made.

[Moonshadow 16,659]

He would have been more likely to reneg on his agreement and go back to the Crows last year imo. Won't happen now, despite the sad uniqueness of the situation.

[chook fowler 18,626]

All the signs are Goodwin is really committed to the club and this playing group.

He's not going anywhere.

Heard a conversation on one of the footy shows where they said what a brilliant match day coach he is. Something to look forward to.

[SaberFang 7,141]

Can't get much of a better footy apprenticeship than working under all the coaches he has... well, barring Hird.

But arguably he learned a great deal from that, too.

Edited July 6, 2015 by Lamashtu

[Ted Lasso 17,337]

Goody is signed for five years

[DeeSpencer 23,695]

Fair question to ask and I think he'd obviously still have a loyalty to the Crows but I can't really see them asking.

The Crows Chairman and CEO have both performed brilliantly in a tough situation, I don't think they'd be the types to send a coaching selection panel to scout out Goodwin when he's contract and committed to a job.

And for Goodwin if he was willing to sign on last year then despite some ups and downs I would've thought he'd be pretty invested in taking on more responsibility next year and then the main gig the year after.

Since he's come to the club he's seen: Hogan, Brayshaw, vandenBerg, Stretch and ANB debut and all play good footy. Had Garlett back to his best. Salem start really well at half back. Watts and Toumpas play the best 3 game stretches of their careers. And he has Petracca to unwrap next year. We are a long way from any kind of success but I imagine if Goodwin has faith in his ability to coach he's probably thinking of a fair few positives.

[Moneider96 1,045]

All the signs are Goodwin is really committed to the club and this playing group.

He's not going anywhere.

Heard a conversation on one of the footy shows where they said what a brilliant match day coach he is. Something to look forward to.

Footy classified (Lloyd)

[monoccular 16,731]

Can't get much of a better footy apprenticeship than working under all the coaches he has... well, barring Hird.

But arguably he learned a great deal from that, too.

Agree - working and learning under senior people of varying capabilities and characteristics can teach one a hell of a lot, especially if one's eyes and mind are open: sometimes one can learn just what NOT to do, as much as learning positives.

When I first saw the thread title I said to myself, hasn't the WADA saga been done to death: we all presume that this now professional club did full due diligence on his exposure to fallout from EFC and WADA.

Edited July 6, 2015 by monoccular

[What 18,810]

I have a feeling we are going to be a high scoring team under Goody. The flair of all those pre-2007 MFC sides will return.

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,052]

Why would they bother, we obviously paid overs for him, Crows would have to better it.

And he still has his training wheels on.

How much are we paying him?

[monoccular 16,731]

How much are we paying him?

I am sure PJ knows but very few if any here do.

[Lucifers Hero 37,534]

Agree - working and learning under senior people of varying capabilities and characteristics can teach one a hell of a lot, especially if one's eyes and mind are open: sometimes one can learn just what NOT to do, as much as learning positives.

When I first saw the thread title I said to myself, hasn't the WADA saga been done to death: we all presume that this now professional club did full due diligence on his exposure to fallout from EFC and WADA.

Yes, Goodwin has had a great training ground: Thompson, Hird, Roos, McCartney.

He has seen the good, the bad and the ugly side of coaching and as you say will have learnt a lot from all.

It could me more likely we lose McCartney than Goodwin.

McC's name hasn't come up yet but 2/3 clubs are our looking for coaches (blues, crows and in time dons).

McC's CV is not too shabby either!

These two are a great combo who seem to be doing terrific player development to bring out their best.

Would hate to see them separated before our team really gets going...a few years, maybe.

Edited July 6, 2015 by Lucifer's Hero

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,052]

This year marks the end of contracts for Howe/Garland with possibly both at new clubs next year. Next year Grimes/Dawes/Terlich are out of contract. 2017 looms as the best list we've had in years. That is if we use the last two trade-draft periods an indication then we should be sitting nicely. Should Godwin want out, which I don't think will happen if quite happily take Woosha.

[Binmans PA 26,833]

I have a feeling we are going to be a high scoring team under Goody. The flair of all those pre-2007 MFC sides will return.

As long as we can defend. Roos' contested footy brand is the one that holds up in finals.

[Chook 14,710]

All the signs are Goodwin is really committed to the club and this playing group.

He's not going anywhere.

Heard a conversation on one of the footy shows where they said what a brilliant match day coach he is. Something to look forward to.

That’s great to hear because I think it’s probably Paul Roos’ weakest attribute. If Roos can impart his man-management skills on a coach with great match day tactics, we could really have a keeper finally.

[Tony Tea 2,792]

As long as we can defend. Roos' contested footy brand is the one that holds up in finals.

Yes. Port's style is testament to what happens when defensive minded opponents eventually work out attacking football.

Personally, I am torn between whether we should play Roos' hallmark man-on-man defensive footy or Clarkson's (and Simpson's) team defence. Maybe a bit of both? But we are coming from a long, long way back, possibly further back than any team in the modern era. We needed to learn that AFL is all about big blokes knocking over big blokes, tackling, pressure and intensity, and Roos was brought in to teach the blokes how to play adult footy. Hopefully when Roos is done and Goody takes over the player will have learned from Roos how to bully a game and then Goody comes in and puts the attacking garnish on a hard nosed bunch of players (while not sacrificing the defensive aspects).

[Biffen 12,567]

Favourite sons do not always make the best coaches.

Tird,Yuckley,Voss,Ratten etc.

They often fall out with their own board.

[Binmans PA 26,833]

Favourite sons do not always make the best coaches.

Tird,Yuckley,Voss,Ratten etc.

They often fall out with their own board.

I would have agreed with your assessment of Ratten three years ago, but I'm not so convinced of this view anymore. He wasn't good at building a list, but I suspect he was a pretty good coach.