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I hope Hogan as the whole team structure would take on a new appearance and allow us to play different and more flexible footy.

Gee it's fantastic to watch Hogan crash through packs, isn't it.

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Tyson is too good to be a "break out" he broke out last year. He already is a star and will enhance his star status further this year.

Look at the list none of those players have done anything yet while Tyson finished 2nd in the B&F last year.

Ask a supporter of another club if Tyson is a 'star' . You will get laughed at. He's certainly a promising kid but he has a long way to go

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Ask a supporter of another club if Tyson is a 'star' . You will get laughed at. He's certainly a promising kid but he has a long way to go

So what? How long have the underrated N.Jones? He averaged 24 disposals with no preseason and finished 2nd in the B&F. What does he have to do? average 40 disposals and win the B&F?

We have 2 stars Tyson is one of them, N.Jones is the other IMO, they can laugh at me all they want.

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So what? How long have the underrated N.Jones? He averaged 24 disposals with no preseason and finished 2nd in the B&F. What does he have to do? average 40 disposals and win the B&F?

We have 2 stars Tyson is one of them, N.Jones is the other IMO, they can laugh at me all they want.

Do it consistently, and improve his kicking.

He is a bloody good footballer, and one of our best, but he ain't a star. (Yet)

That word is thrown around too much anyway.

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Ask a supporter of another club if Tyson is a 'star' . You will get laughed at. He's certainly a promising kid but he has a long way to go

No one is saying he is a 'star' yet - just that he looks likely to be one in the future.

11 Brownlow votes last year. The best of his draft. Signs, objectively, look good.

And since when has 'getting laughed at' by opposition supporters been the barometer of the accuracy of a fact or clear thinking.

Most people in Kansas laugh at Richard Dawkins views on evolution too ...

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didn't Hogan live with mitch clark...no comment

depressed at the thought of being overtaken by a youngster?
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Looking at the form this pre-season, I think Tom McDonald is going to have a real "break out" year and gain universal recognition as the next big thing in defenders. His game on the weekend was close to flawless. He's backing himself to take marks defensively, his spoiling is good and his rebounding and attacking play has improved out of sight. If he can play like he did on the weekend all season he'll be knocking on the door of the AA selectors in six months.

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No one is saying he is a 'star' yet - just that he looks likely to be one in the future.

11 Brownlow votes last year. The best of his draft. Signs, objectively, look good.

And since when has 'getting laughed at' by opposition supporters been the barometer of the accuracy of a fact or clear thinking.

Most people in Kansas laugh at Richard Dawkins views on evolution too ...

The non-MFC world only recognises Jones. Because he is the only one worthy of it at this point in time.

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Looking at the form this pre-season, I think Tom McDonald is going to have a real "break out" year and gain universal recognition as the next big thing in defenders. His game on the weekend was close to flawless. He's backing himself to take marks defensively, his spoiling is good and his rebounding and attacking play has improved out of sight. If he can play like he did on the weekend all season he'll be knocking on the door of the AA selectors in six months.

If Tom McDonald's Nab Challenge stats are compared to 2014 AFL Premiership season stats, he would be:

- In the top 10 for marks in the league

- Top 20 for rebound 50s in the league

- Top 15 for one percenters in the league

- Top 50 for disposal efficiency in the league

They are ridiculous stats for a key defender.

This is with a reduced-time format as well.

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If Tom McDonald's Nab Challenge stats are compared to 2014 AFL Premiership season stats, he would be:

- In the top 10 for marks in the league

- Top 20 for rebound 50s in the league

- Top 15 for one percenters in the league

- Top 50 for disposal efficiency in the league

They are ridiculous stats for a key defender.

This is with a reduced-time format as well.

I loved the passage of play we he got possession at fullback-ish and just ran his guts out to have 3 disposals in quick succession and clear it well beyond the wing to a teammate, that was elite stuff

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I loved the passage of play we he got possession at fullback-ish and just ran his guts out to have 3 disposals in quick succession and clear it well beyond the wing to a teammate, that was elite stuff

That type of play is so important to his game, getting the ball out of our backplane and into our forward half, where we now have talls to compete in the air and crumbers at their feet.
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The non-MFC world only recognises Jones. Because he is the only one worthy of it at this point in time.

Agree with your first sentence. Not sure about the second.

It'll be interesting to see what the non-MFC world thinks of a few other MFC players by the end of this season.

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Agree with your first sentence. Not sure about the second.

It'll be interesting to see what the non-MFC world thinks of a few other MFC players by the end of this season.

Isn't that kind of the point of this thread? :)

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For me its Clearly Dom Tyson. Dean Kent is coming though...

The most exciting thing for me are the blokes that will rise now that we have at least two guns in the midfield (Jones and Tyson). Tyson's break out year came last year. I think he'll be rated very highly externally this year. It'll be interesting to see if Jones or Tyson gets the tag. If one or two others can stand up, it will enable the entire midfield group to rise together and improve their output.

Having said this about the midfield, Frost seems to be the most likely candidate on his NAB Cup showings thus far. Of course, these games often mean very little, but it won't harm his confidence to get some positive games under his belt at this time of year.

I'm really hoping Viney can start to accumulate more possessions and tidy up his disposal. I think the McCartney influence will be evident on our midfield group as the season progresses too. He's the number #1 off season recruit for me.

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Probably going to be difficult for Kent unless he moves further up the ground for a midfield role where he can get involved more.

Dom Tyson surely has to be mentioned also, at the age of 21, 35 games with 20 goals.

In his first year without injury in 2014 he played 22 games averaging 23.7 disposals. 11 browlow votes

I don't know how that compares to other players in his category but....

If he got his finger out of his arse and gut run a bit more he would get involved more and also stop his direct opponent running off him more

As other have said he has all the tools but FMD he lacks desire

Those on Demonland know over the years I don't tend to bag players because it's one hell of a tough game but this kid is either going to be an absolute star or as it's currently looking a potential what could have been. I just hope he wakes up before it's to late.

The footy world and the choice is your Deano

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If Tom McDonald's Nab Challenge stats are compared to 2014 AFL Premiership season stats, he would be:

- In the top 10 for marks in the league

- Top 20 for rebound 50s in the league

- Top 15 for one percenters in the league

- Top 50 for disposal efficiency in the league

They are ridiculous stats for a key defender.

This is with a reduced-time format as well.

getting in the All Australian team these days is bloody hard with 18 teams in the comp and still only 22 spots in the team, but if I had to pick one MFC player thats a realistic shot in 2015 I would pick Tom McDonald

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Simon Goodwin - responsible for balancing Roos defensive style with a bit of attacking flare according to the Sun.

It was noticeable in the first half against the Doggies and should provide plenty for us supporters to be happy about.

Nice to hear that the boys seem to really enjoy his coaching.

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Isn't that kind of the point of this thread? :)

I had thought the point of this thread was to identify/predict which MFC players would have breakout seasons, not who will get recognition by the non-MFC world.

For instance, to my mind at least, Tyson (11 Brownlow votes) and Jetta (verging on AA form) had breakout seasons last year - and C&B is perhaps quite right in saying that they still get no recognition by the non-MFC world.

This thread is about predicting who will be this year's Jetta and Tyson.

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Simon Goodwin - responsible for balancing Roos defensive style with a bit of attacking flare according to the Sun.

It was noticeable in the first half against the Doggies and should provide plenty for us supporters to be happy about.

Nice to hear that the boys seem to really enjoy his coaching.

Not to have a go at Roos, but i often found at Sydney (even in their Grand Final years), that their offence was way too dour. Happy for Goodwin to realise that some attacking flair is needed.

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Been burnt on this before but I honestly believe watts will be the breakout player. High half forward pushing up the ground and delivering the ball inside 50. 30 odd goals as cream on top. Despite the issues by far our most skilled and talented player. Will have a year like Gibbs did last year.

The mark he took to win the game against the doggies is a sign of things to come. He hasn't got much love for that mark but it was a ripper. Tricky wind. H was going for goal but miskicked it making it helicopter spin with a flat trajectory. Watts read it beautifully and clunked it

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Been burnt on this before but I honestly believe watts will be the breakout player. High half forward pushing up the ground and delivering the ball inside 50. 30 odd goals as cream on top. Despite the issues by far our most skilled and talented player. Will have a year like Gibbs did last year

Was going to suggest Watts as well. When drafted it was stated he was a long term prospect and would take 6-7 years, he's at that point now.

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Tom Scull...wait umm...Luke Tapsc...no, whats his name, ummm, Jordan Gys, not that one the other guy, Sam Ble...no not him, oh I mean Mitch Clis.....oh whats it matter, whoever i think it will be will suck and be traded/delisted anyway!

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