Training - Friday 28th March, 2014

[Satyriconhome 10,879]

Ok boys and girls I am going to take the morning off from my wonderfully toxic workplace (marvellous how selective redundancies can change working relationships) to attend training.

Will check:-

* any player in a full body cast

* if Jack Fitzpatrick is over his concussion, if he turns up and actually faces the right way should be a good indication

* if Jack Watts in now out for 2-3 weeks

* which part of Max Gawn's 2 and half metre long hamstring is tight

If anybody from West Coast is watching, should be easy to pick, they will be the tallest person at training

Does Dave Misson have an abacus and a clairvoyant on hand to work out what not to say in next week's injury report re the length of time a player will be out, think I will just tell him to consult the myriad of medical and fitness professionals we have posting on Demonland?

[rjay 25,113]

Ok boys and girls I am going to take the morning off from my wonderfully toxic workplace this mornng (marvellous how selective redundancies can change working relationships) to attend training

Don't envy you 'Sat', unfortunately true colours shine through in these situations and they're not always pleasant.

[timD 994]

Just try not to lie. Then, try not to mislead. And then you'll be doing better than the MFC.

Funny, but you've just figured out what a bad workplace is like but NEVER saw it last year at the club...and have no idea what impact it had on the players.

The MFC takes my money, it takes my loyalty, it takes my time and it takes my heart. Wondering exactly what I'm getting back ATM. I'd accept honesty. Actually, I see it as the bare minimum. They cannot give me anything else. No enjoyment, no hope, no pride. All we are is a shameful footnote in Monday's sport summary - the only points of interest are the margin of defeat and the depths of ineptitude.

The one thing they can do is be honest. As if that is so hard.

You keep defending the status quo, Saty. It's a brave stance.

[Satyriconhome 10,879]

Just try not to lie. Then, try not to mislead. And then you'll be doing better than the MFC.

Funny, but you've just figured out what a bad workplace is like but NEVER saw it last year at the club...and have no idea what impact it had on the players.

The MFC takes my money, it takes my loyalty, it takes my time and it takes my heart. Wondering exactly what I'm getting back ATM. I'd accept honesty. Actually, I see it as the bare minimum. They cannot give me anything else. No enjoyment, no hope, no pride. All we are is a shameful footnote in Monday's sport summary - the only points of interest are the margin of defeat and the depths of ineptitude.

The one thing they can do is be honest. As if that is so hard.

You keep defending the status quo, Saty. It's a brave stance.

I think you and some others need reminding, it's just footy, you must do it because you want you, like 32000 others at the moment

I think some take any media way way too seriously, most is spin these days or blanded by the constraints placed on it

Personally I don't watch Dave Misson's Injury report or read some of trhe 'puff' pieces Matt Burgan has to churn out,

It is not a brave stance, I just move on, I also am very cynical, I know I have been lied to in all facets of my life, but hey, I woke up this morning, I have a beautiful partner, some lovely grandkids, and I can get to spend a sunny afternoon at the G on Sunday watching my team having a crack, what's not to like

[The Great Pretender 476]

Just try not to lie. Then, try not to mislead. And then you'll be doing better than the MFC.

Funny, but you've just figured out what a bad workplace is like but NEVER saw it last year at the club...and have no idea what impact it had on the players.

The MFC takes my money, it takes my loyalty, it takes my time and it takes my heart. Wondering exactly what I'm getting back ATM. I'd accept honesty. Actually, I see it as the bare minimum. They cannot give me anything else. No enjoyment, no hope, no pride. All we are is a shameful footnote in Monday's sport summary - the only points of interest are the margin of defeat and the depths of ineptitude.

The one thing they can do is be honest. As if that is so hard.

You keep defending the status quo, Saty. It's a brave stance.

Fair go and give it a break please.

I'm sick of these posters who use every opportunity to revert to what happened last year when things don't go right under the new management.

If you must know, the injury issues happened last year as well and Paul Roos was supposed to have changed the training format to tailor it to his own needs.

Most of us are interested in what happens at training and how the players under an injury cloud are going. We're not happy about the injuries to our keys and ruckmen but we're not interested in anybody's paranoia about the past either.

I look forward to Saty's report and thank him in advance.

[daisycutter 29,747]

Just try not to lie. Then, try not to mislead. And then you'll be doing better than the MFC.

Funny, but you've just figured out what a bad workplace is like but NEVER saw it last year at the club...and have no idea what impact it had on the players.

The MFC takes my money, it takes my loyalty, it takes my time and it takes my heart. Wondering exactly what I'm getting back ATM. I'd accept honesty. Actually, I see it as the bare minimum. They cannot give me anything else. No enjoyment, no hope, no pride. All we are is a shameful footnote in Monday's sport summary - the only points of interest are the margin of defeat and the depths of ineptitude.

The one thing they can do is be honest. As if that is so hard.

You keep defending the status quo, Saty. It's a brave stance.

LOL Tim, i notice successful clubs especially essendon are big on honesty

but you make some good points.....i'm sick of the spin especially when it really doesn't achieve anything

[McQueen 17,867]

The MFC takes my money, it takes my loyalty, it takes my time and it takes my heart.

Wow.

This is absolutely lyrical. I just found myself trying to add a catchy tune to it as I was reading it.

[rpfc 28,788]

Just try not to lie. Then, try not to mislead. And then you'll be doing better than the MFC.

Funny, but you've just figured out what a bad workplace is like but NEVER saw it last year at the club...and have no idea what impact it had on the players.

The MFC takes my money, it takes my loyalty, it takes my time and it takes my heart. Wondering exactly what I'm getting back ATM. I'd accept honesty. Actually, I see it as the bare minimum. They cannot give me anything else. No enjoyment, no hope, no pride. All we are is a shameful footnote in Monday's sport summary - the only points of interest are the margin of defeat and the depths of ineptitude.

The one thing they can do is be honest. As if that is so hard.

You keep defending the status quo, Saty. It's a brave stance.

Are you epicly saying: tell us better injury return times?

It's frustrating as hell but I see it as more a confluence of badly managed events surrounding strategically important players than some sort of determined and destructive failure of communication:

Dawes evidently has a nagging calf complaint and others have alluded to management of a knee issue he has had for most of his career.

BUT the club could tell us whether there is a degenerative knee issue. Whether they should confirm that is another question.

Clark's foot issue is well known, with his latest soft tissue injury coinciding with, and compounding, his personal issues of late.

BUT the club could tell us a thorough timeline of his failed recovery and how they are going to manage it from the point he returns to the club. If he doesn't return, there is no way to manage that well in the interim.

Hogan copped a knock before the Geelong game, played in that game, and made it worse. The club is managing a huge investment as it should.

BUT the club didn't explicitly tell us when that hit came - they let the false belief that it came in the Geelong game perpetuate.

Gawn has bad knees as we know. He has bad hammies as a result. He has obviously had another setback.

BUT nothing, he was set to play and didn't pull up well. That is pure footy. And it sucks for all involved.

So if you got through all of that - I don't think it is a window into our badly run club, I think it is just a few tough situations that we can't be fully truthful about for various reasons relating to the welfare of the player in question, and the protection of that player and the staff to play when perhaps they should not have. That's just footy.

And as Danners said...

Footy sucks sometimes.

[old dee 23,873]

Are you epicly saying: tell us better injury return times?

It's frustrating as hell but I see it as more a confluence of badly managed events surrounding strategically important players than some sort of determined and destructive failure of communication:

Dawes evidently has a nagging calf complaint and others have alluded to management of a knee issue he has had for most of his career.

BUT the club could tell us whether there is a degenerative knee issue. Whether they should confirm that is another question.

Clark's foot issue is well known, with his latest soft tissue injury coinciding with, and compounding, his personal issues of late.

BUT the club could tell us a thorough timeline of his failed recovery and how they are going to manage it from the point he returns to the club. If he doesn't return, there is no way to manage that well in the interim.

Hogan copped a knock before the Geelong game, played in that game, and made it worse. The club is managing a huge investment as it should.

BUT the club didn't explicitly tell us when that hit came - they let the false belief that it came in the Geelong game perpetuate.

Gawn has bad knees as we know. He has bad hammies as a result. He has obviously had another setback.

BUT nothing, he was set to play and didn't pull up well. That is pure footy. And it sucks for all involved.

So if you got through all of that - I don't think it is a window into our badly run club, I think it is just a few tough situations that we can't be fully truthful about for various reasons relating to the welfare of the player in question, and the protection of that player and the staff to play when perhaps they should not have. That's just footy.

And as Danners said...

Footy sucks sometimes.

At the MFC it has sucked for seven years

[old dee 23,873]

LOL Tim, i notice successful clubs especially essendon are big on honesty

but you make some good points.....i'm sick of the spin especially when it really doesn't achieve anything

I would way sooner watch a Bombers team than an MFC one right now

[Hellaintabadplacetobe 4,294]

Just drove past Goschs and noticed Dawes running at a reasonable pace which was good to see!

[Allen Jakovich 516]

When we start winning a few games, the injuries will resolve themselves, I can assure you.

The weight of the world on your shoulders as a key forward in the worst team in the comp can be... burdensome...

[chook fowler 19,570]

Are you sure Dawes wasn't on a gopher?

[Slartibartfast 17,653]

Are you epicly saying:

I reckon what he's saying is after 7 years of crud he's disappointed, disillusioned and angry.

And he doesn't want to be told Hogan is a chance for round 1 for it to turn out to be round 5. He doesn't want to be told Garland and Dawes are chances for R1 only to see them in round 4 or 5.

He can cop one or perhaps two errors of estimation but he's sick of the continual spin coming from the club that continually disappoints on a range of players. Footy is an emotional game and like most of us from time to time I reckon he's feeling it.

I am. Bad news is bad news, it happens, it's probably nobody's fault, just don't feed us spin.

Tell it how it is.

[Slartibartfast 17,653]

When we start winning a few games, the injuries will resolve themselves, I can assure you.

When the injuries resolve themselves we will start winning a few games. I can assure you.

[DemonOX 8,801]

Don't think fitz will come up based on the article in today's hs.

Think we r going to be the "tiny tots" of the afl this weekend.

[Pates 9,660]

Just drove past Goschs and noticed Dawes running at a reasonable pace which was good to see!

I don't believe it! I won't believe! I can't believe it! (Oh let it be true!)

[DeeSpencer 26,090]

Mark Stevens ‏@Stevo7AFL 2m

Jack Watts will play .. moving beautifully at training

[old dee 23,873]

Just drove past Goschs and noticed Dawes running at a reasonable pace which was good to see!

He was doing that in February

When I see him run out to start a game I will be impressed

[DeeSpencer 26,090]

Mark Stevens ‏@Stevo7AFL 1m

Tom McDonald's thigh heavily padded .. Away from main group .. Looks a long way short of 100 PC with corkie .. WC land of giants await

[DeeSpencer 26,090]

He was doing that in February

When I see him run out to start a game I will be impressed

Give it a rest old man. Every positive comment doesn't have to be jumped on

[old dee 23,873]

Mark Stevens ‏@Stevo7AFL 2m

Jack Watts will play .. moving beautifully at training

There are only short guys added to the list for his weekend

I reckon he will be CHF this week if Fitzy does not come up.

Who else is there?

[old dee 23,873]

Give it a rest old man. Every positive comment doesn't have to be jumped on

When it concerns Dawes it does.

[ManDee 7,222]

When we start winning a few games, the injuries will resolve themselves, I can assure you.

The weight of the world on your shoulders as a key forward in the worst team in the comp can be... burdensome...

You should no Jako, hows the back?

[Ted Lasso 19,549]

Just drove past Goschs and noticed Dawes running at a reasonable pace which was good to see!

Don't get ahead of yourself, he will pull a hammy walking up to tell Roosy he is right to go