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I hereby declare I am a [censored]...having made that clear. Unless you are a perennial long term underperformer ( Sylvia, Jamar) I would like to see what Roos and co can do with the newer underperformers - if Tapscott and Blease have no value at all then what is the cost of seeing if they can improve significantly for a year. The only disclaimer is if Roos has met them and sensed attitude problems that wont get fixed ( think Gysberts)

Edit - I want to see next year as a clean slate - for example - Jack Watts - you have been in a horrible system for 5 years and played all over the shop. We are starting new this year with a new coach and structure. I will judge you on 2014 onwards.

Realistically pick 60 or worse is what we'd get for these players in a trade 'deal'. God knows who or what we'd get for those picks.

I'd rather keep them for a year under Roos and see what he can do with them.

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Tappy should be played at half back, best position for him. Better option than Clisby IMO.

On that, when he first started playing he was our lock down small defender.. i remember him waiting for his opponent to just touch the ball and ball he would crunch them in a massive tackle - It to date has been his best position, but i saw signs this year i liked..

On the negative he never seems to land on his feet after jumping for a mark, so he was leading hard and if the delivery was crap he wasn't there..

I'm in favor of keeping them both.. Blease has a habit of getting injured every year & tappy is Trangroves best mate, plus was rated as one of the top three kicks in his draft..

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Tappy should be played at half back, best position for him. Better option than Clisby IMO.

Disagree. Clisby really earned and cemented his spot this year, Tapscott has never done that.

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I remember the time you changed your avatar after being accused of 'waffling on'.

Now that you're declaring yourself a [censored].....

Guilty as charged.

I see a couple of good games from a player and think yes. 22 games of that a season over 6 seasons and we got a champion. And then reality hits. 5 seasons on and a couple of good games is the sum total.

I have seen a couple from Blease and Tappy and think yes.......

So why couldnt Roos bring out more of the good games from them ?

( alas not to be and I'm being a [censored] in not wanting them traded)

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If we keep Magner, he has to be upgraded, so that would be one (low) pick used. They could also be looking at upgrading Clisby.

Clearing the decks. Again.

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They aren't worth much I would prefer to keep both of them and see if Roos can get the best out of them.

Would not be keen on seeing them leave.

They both have something we need. Blease with his electric pace and Tappscott being as hard as nails. Both have had less than adequate coaching and development IMO and I believe they will flourish under Roos if given the opportunity.

I tend to agree with this

Blease may have some trade value but Tapscott probably none.

Better off seeing what they can achieve under the new Roos regime rather than putting them out for scavengers on hard rubbish night

Edit Blease not auto correct Blasé

It would seem that as they have been put on the table under Roos' regime then Roos may have a different opinion. IF he thought that he could bring them along, he would probably want to keep them. (Or he may be ambivalent about them, in a sort of take it or leave it mindset.)

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Standalone trade - not much value, but they could offer a genuine sweetener to a bigger deal with the right club who sees some value based on an assumption of poor development at MFC, more so than say Strauss, Jetta and Bail who have zero value.

I like Blease's pace and his 2012 season I thought he could build on, 2013 was poor. I agree not much value alone but other clubs may well see it as a good sweetener to a bigger deal.

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I don't mean to sound rude but I think alot of people are overvaluing them.

These two were among the worst on our list this year - why would any club want some of the worst players from the team with the worst list?

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We need so much attention paid to the stoppages, with an urgent need for a Cross/Sewell type and an equal urgent need for some close in tight skill like SHiel or Sloane. But we cannot totally disregard the need for outside run and class. Dom Barry and Toumpas will give us this, as might Evans, and this is also where Blease fits in. I like what Blease has to offer but I would no longer keep him ahead of the other three.

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Tappy and Blease have more value to us on potential under a great coach than what we would get offered for trade.

We need speed and grunt. If these two players came up as delisted and available, we would be looking at them. Their age, potential, poor development by a weak club... Bargain.

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It would seem that as they have been put on the table under Roos' regime then Roos may have a different opinion. IF he thought that he could bring them along, he would probably want to keep them. (Or he may be ambivalent about them, in a sort of take it or leave it mindset.)

This says it all.

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It would seem that as they have been put on the table under Roos' regime then Roos may have a different opinion. IF he thought that he could bring them along, he would probably want to keep them. (Or he may be ambivalent about them, in a sort of take it or leave it mindset.)

In the article Roos wrote about 'turning us around in 2014" he has ? against Blease, Jamar and Fitzpatrick... Tapscott isnt even anywhere to be seen.

so in light of recent events and like your good self there Monoccular i can only deduce he has now put a line through them.

Roos doesnt particularly want them. Kinda simple really.

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Enough of these two! No more promise, no more teasing!

Out, out, both of you, I say!

If you got rid of the promise from the MFC, it would be hollow shell, an old ruin.

All we have is promise unfulfilled.

And Jones.

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Greg Denham this morning also mentioned we were shopping around Rohan Bail along with these two. I don't think we'll have to hire extra staff to handle the influx of interested parties.

I really think Bail should hang the boots up for his own good. Too many concussion episodes for my liking. Better to look to your future, I say.

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Another example of wasted draft picks. I can see why Neeld used to get frustrated with Blease. He frustrates the hell out of me. Can use his pace for attack but not defence.

What I have seen of Blease I just think with more time, training, discipline and maturity he could be a very damaging player. You watch him at Casey in a competitive team and he can be electrifying, getting the ball at high speed on the wing where he is balanced, then delivers a low piercing pass to a leading forward that unfortunately is just as likely to hit an opposition player lace out on the chest as his intended target. What is that about? When he gets into the firsts he will have an occasional blinder that we all remember or else go missing completely or he gets injured yet again. All that said he has some obvious weapons that I would like to see if Roosey could develop.

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I really think Bail should hang the boots up for his own good. Too many concussion episodes for my liking. Better to look to your future, I say.

I agree with this, he's got a long future ahead of him after footy. Shouldn't risk that to play just a few more games.

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