Bombers scandal: charged, <redacted> and <infracted>

[demoniac 1,306]

Its fairly obvious that the interests of the Essendon Football Club and its players from 2012 are not the same and the players need to be told that asap.

[Uncle Fester 2,843]

I wonder how hirdy is feeling right now ?

Rich.

Sociopaths don't feel anything other than what gets them the best deal.

[beelzebub 23,205]

Pandoras Box just opened.

All hell about to let loose.

Somewhere in France someones sphincter just got uncomfortable.

[Deefiant 438]

"Fairfax Media reported last month that show cause notices had been expected in June."

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/season-over-for-bombers-says-matthew-lloyd-20140612-zs662.html#ixzz34QR9aaJo

Didn't they say it was by the end of May?

[chook fowler 19,270]

Rich.

Sociopaths don't feel anything other than what gets them the best deal.

More likely a narcissist

[beelzebub 23,205]

Typical stance by Robbo " Bombers must fight "

This guy is im affraid an absolute dropkick.

Robbo...theres no injustice mate they brought it on themselves. They are the cause. Essendon aren't being unjustly persecuted they are being held accountable and taken to task. Only an idiot couldn't see that....oh...

[sue 9,029]

Just read this and burst out laughing:

“The club will continue to act in the best of interest of its players and respect the integrity and confidentiality of this process,” said Paul Little.

They just don't know the difference in meaning between 'continue' and 'start'.

[Whispering_Jack 29,275]

Could Trenners get a show cause notice?

The case against Jack was based on an ABC report about SMS messages between Dank and Dr. Bates (a former Melbourne club doctor) suggesting that he should be prescribed a cream containing AOD9604. It has subsequently been reported that Jack was in the clear.

According to Gerard Whateley on AFL360 the show cause notices don't refer to the use of AOD9604 anyway. The inference is that the notices relate only to the alleged use of the "bad" Thymosin. I would prefer to wait on official confirmation that this is in fact the case but if it's true then Jack would appear to have nothing to worry about.

[beelzebub 23,205]

Most of Essendon is going to wake up to Friday the 13th. LOL

[ChaserJ 4,730]

What I was getting at was that Saad consumed a commercial drink of some sort and was done like a dinner. Essendon players were taken off site and injected with some as yet unknown substance and still nothing has been done!!

Fair enough.

I think the Saad case was straight forward. Positive test, A sample, B sample, no further investigation required.

Essendon case doesn't come with positive test results, largely testimony and circumstantial evidence. Testing this legally is proving to be far more complex.

[monoccular 17,341]

Pandoras Box just opened.

All hell about to let loose.

Somewhere in France someones sphincter just got uncomfortable.

I really doubt that. Narcissistic sociopaths don't have consciences, and many don't actually believe they have done wrong. Delusional.

[Uncle Fester 2,843]

Typical stance by Robbo " Bombers must fight "

I hope they do. I hope they drain every cent they have in this already lost battle. Then Hird can go on Oprah and admit his sins, pocket another mil, while a once proud club lies dead in the gutter.

If we are going to have the AFL story of the century then we might as well have one that plays out to the bitter end.

[whatwhat say what 22,266]

Uncle fester - that would be a very sad situation.

Total popcorn moment tho.

[wretched.sylph 164]

CURRENT 2012 PLAYERS (29)

1. Michael Hibberd

2. Tom Bellchambers

4. Jobe Watson

5. Brent Stanton

7. Leroy Jetta

8. Jason Winderlich

10. Nick O'Brien

11. David Zaharakis

12. Mark Baguley

15. Courtenay Dempsey

16. Tayte Pears

17. Jake Melksham

18. Michael Hurley

20. Jackson Merrett

21. Dyson Heppell

22. Jake Carlisle

23. David Myers

24. Alex Browne

26. Cale Hooker

28. Elliott Kavanagh

30. Paddy Ryder

31. Dustin Fletcher

32. Travis Colyer

34. Kyle Hardingham

36. Lauchlan Dalgleish

39. Heath Hocking

40. Ben Howlett

25. Ariel Steinberg

29. Cory Dell'Olio

FORMER 2012 PLAYERS (17)

2. Ricky Dyson

3. Scott Gumbleton

6. Angus Monfries

9. Brent Prismall

10. Mark McVeigh

12. Stewart Crameri

14. Sam Lonergan

19. David Hille

20. Henry Slattery

29. Alwyn Davey

37. Kyle Reimers

38. Michael Ross

13. Anthony Long

41. Brendan Lee

27. Luke Davis

42. Nathan Lovett-Murray

45. Hal Hunter

POST 2012 PLAYERS

2013 (8 players)

6. Joe Daniher

9. Brendon Goddard

14. Jason Ashby

33. Dylan Van Unen

35. Martin Gleeson

37. Sean Gregory

38. Nick Kommer

41. Will Hams

2014 (8 players)

3. Paul Chapman

19. Shaun Edwards

27. Zach Merrett

43. Kurt Aylett

46. Orazio Fantasia

44. Fraser Thurlow

45. Johnny Rayner

47. Patrick Ambrose

[Nascent 8,680]

Can someone clarify the potential bans these players face. I was under the impression that these bans would have to be served in season, therefore a two year ban handed to a player would have to be carried out over 4 seasons (March-August = 6months served).

However, a recent article on Ahmed Saad by Emma Quayle stats that he is hoping to be drafted for the 2015 season (would miss some early rounds) after starting his ban late November in 2013.

There has been conjecture that Essendon players may only receive 6months ban if they were cooperative with ASADA investigations. I'm not exactly sure on the criteria they have to meet, but my impression from nothing more than the running media commentary would indicate that this would be unlikely. Now for a hypothetical... could we potentially see Bomber players only receiving 6month bans in the offseason from September - February and therefore be ready to go for the 2015 season?

[JackVineyForPresident 310]

i want the book thrown at them!

[Demon trucker 1,800]

If I? Was one of theplayers I would get my own lawyer and sue hird, get in first .

[SaberFang 7,151]

Not sure I get the collective mentality of all players uniting to try and fight this. Everyone and their pet cat knows they've been duped by Hird and his regime of drug-injecting buffoons. Come clean, sue the hell out of him, and show some goddamn integrity. None of these players will come out of this looking particularly ethical by sticking their fingers in their ears going "la, la, la, you've got no evidence to prove we did this!"

If my employer betrayed my trust and confidence so grievously, I'd have zero allegiance to them whatsoever. I'd be trying to salvage my professional career using any means possible and seeking every legal avenue to do it. Why wait until the [censored] hits the fan with infraction notices and you've already had your name tainted for life?

[sue 9,029]

...

If my employer betrayed my trust and confidence so grievously, I'd have zero allegiance to them whatsoever. I'd be trying to salvage my professional career using any means possible and seeking every legal avenue to do it. Why wait until the [censored] hits the fan with infraction notices and you've already had your name tainted for life?

That is true in the normal workplace, but even with free agency and the loss of the loyalty that many of us supporters bemoan, blokes in footy clubs may still be loath to take such steps.

[Uncle Fester 2,843]

Uncle fester - that would be a very sad situation.

Total popcorn moment tho.

It's already sad. But I'm not the one directing the movie. I'm just the schmuck that is paying to see the show. And I want some bang for my buck.

[Whispering_Jack 29,275]

ASADA show-cause notices for Dons

Former WADA president John Fahey praises ASADA's issuing of show-cause notices to players

ASADA boss issues warning after AFL player anti-doping notices

[biggestred 4,830]

Can someone clarify the potential bans these players face. I was under the impression that these bans would have to be served in season, therefore a two year ban handed to a player would have to be carried out over 4 seasons (March-August = 6months served).

However, a recent article on Ahmed Saad by Emma Quayle stats that he is hoping to be drafted for the 2015 season (would miss some early rounds) after starting his ban late November in 2013.

There has been conjecture that Essendon players may only receive 6months ban if they were cooperative with ASADA investigations. I'm not exactly sure on the criteria they have to meet, but my impression from nothing more than the running media commentary would indicate that this would be unlikely. Now for a hypothetical... could we potentially see Bomber players only receiving 6month bans in the offseason from September - February and therefore be ready to go for the 2015 season?

there was some talk of their bans being 6 months - if that were the case they were going to try and serve them starting october and not actually miss any football. (which would have been a disgrace)

[whatwhat say what 22,266]

It's two years, and they can't serve it only across off-season - that'd be absurd.

If they're found guilty, it's automatic two year ban.

[sydneydee 684]

While firstly I think this bad for the AFL brand which may impact future sponsorship and revenue I now really hope that the book is thrown at them to ensure this never happens again

[beelzebub 23,205]