Farewell Jack Watts

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The MFC bending over yet again.

[Ethan Tremblay 28,427]

1 minute ago, The Stigga said:

Maybe we could swap 29 and 31 for Richmond's 17 and 52

OR

29 and 31 for Brisbane's 18 and 43

 

Have you been reading the Josh Schache thread..? 

[DeeSpencer 23,189]

Just now, DubDee said:

Pick 31 says more about Watts than MFC's ability to negiotiate. if there were more than one club seriously interested, they would have had to offer more than the other.  So Watts is worth 31 in today's market when not much else is on offer and many teams are crying out for a tall fwd.

I am very comfortable with the outcome and glad we can move on with 22 that will crack in every week (not saying Watts is soft, he is just not a competitive beast)

I think that's the bit you've got wrong.

Most teams aren't looking for a tall forward who doesn't crash packs or work really hard at forward pressure. 

Teams are structuring up with 1 key forward who draws the footy and a 2nd taller option who crashes and bashes. Port are a little different because they want to move the ball with skill and Watts can fit in next to Dixon. Geelong had a look because Watts would go well with Hawkins. Most other sides have set ups that work for them. Look at the lack of interest in Schache

[Sir Why You Little 34,591]

Pick 31 in a shallow draft

We should have got higher

over to you Goodwin, this had all better work

it’s your call

[Mondê 525]

Who cares, Watts inability to lead by example both on and off the field was a cancer to this playing group. Didn't even average a goal a game for a 196cm key forward. Next.

[The Stigga 879]

Just now, Ethan Tremblay said:

Have you been reading the Josh Schache thread..? 

Yes

[Gorgoroth 12,331]

Goody is at the storm offices asking the best way to run a ball into the goals. 

[Deestar9 1,411]

36 minutes ago, iv'a worn smith said:

Whatever the "criticism", it has been aired very publicly and as I said, JW doesn't deserve that.  Get the job done, sure, but don't publicly bag the guy.  Being told in public that in doing your job, you don't put in is pretty demeaning. 

http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-trade-news-watts-not-fit-for-melbourne-selfish-ablett-the-wrong-cat-tom-rockliff-wants-out/news-story/a382e18c25c094586b74db384b6673d3

And if you disagree with this then you are absolutely kidding yourself!!! You can check all my posts re Jack Watts & I have always supported him....BUT...he definitely has not lived up to expectations for whatever reason & everyone has expected...hoped for more!! It is laughable to suggest we are kicking him when he is down...he has been the most scrutinised..maligned player by both media & public for nearly a decade & we have stuck by him...enough is enough ...he has had 9 years ...I will never boo him ...hope he does well but I have finally come to the realisation that it won’t be at the MFC....lets move on & start to look forward to look forward to 2018....2017 is done !!!

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[#11-TonyAnderson 696]

All the best Jack. Thanks for some good memories - especially the goal against 'Poor old Collingwood will Never" on QB this year.

[Jaded No More 58,131]

3 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

We didn't have to trade him.

Lets not start this again.

We don't trade him, he spends the year in and out of the side, he is worth pick 50 next year.

 

[The Stigga 879]

Just now, Gorgoroth said:

Goody is at the storm offices asking the best way to run a ball into the goals. 

Watts had 35 inside 50's this year in 16 games.

Thats 2 inside 50's a game.

I don't think he was ranked in the top 200 players for inside 50's in 2017.

 

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3 minutes ago, The Stigga said:

I don't think Geelong were interested at all.

 

They werent. Port were his only option, nobody else wanted him.

 

[demonoid 317]

Wouldn’t have got close to pick 31 for him 2-3 years ago. The silver lining to this is that I will not have to suffer another putrid article on him that has a headline something like “watts up with jack”

[Bobby McKenzie 2,180]

54 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Norm Smith, 4 time premiership player, 6 time premiership coach, 500+ goals

Jack Watts ....

Yeah I can totally see the comparison

I said I felt a BIT like I did when Smith was sacked.. Of course losing Smith was far more reaching than the sacking of Watts.

Read posts more carefully instead of making incorrect assumptions.And save your sarcasm mate, it's not appreciated.

 

55 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

Norm Smith, 4 time premiership player, 6 time premiership coach, 500+ goals

Jack Watts ....

Yeah I can totally see the comparison

 

[TGR 1,367]

Listen to the simpletons boo him next year, when in fact he loved the club and wanted to stay.

 

Club has no right to play the loyalty card when Trac and Co are offered big coin in 2019/20.

Like his old man said, we stuffed him and later stoned him.  

 

 

Pick 31 or Watts?  Give me Watts.

[mo64 5,209]

14 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

We didn't have to trade him.

We probably valued him at say pick 21 - 25, and there would be less hand wringing on here if that's what we got. But the club wanted to move Watts on, so do you really think that they'd backflip over 6-10 positions in the 2nd round of the draft?

Edited October 17, 2017 by mo64

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Mahoney and co. are as weak as pi$$.

Should have at least pushed for Watts and 36 (from the Lever trade) for 31 and 34 

[KysaiahMessiah 725]

18 minutes ago, brendan said:

Pick 31 is unders, but how have we been robbed this trade period we got lever? 

For overs

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I certainly hope they didn't rush the Lever trade to spend close to a week to only fold on the Watts trade. Shocking.

[drdrake 3,038]

Pick 31, shows that no other club was interested in Jack Watts and we wanted him out.  I hope the club has a plan we have 3 second round picks in what everyone that is more educated than us is saying a very weak draft year. 

[RalphiusMaximus 5,993]

Just now, ignition. said:

I certainly hope they didn't rush the Lever trade to spend close to a week to only fold on the Watts trade. Shocking.

They bent over on both trades. We're building a great reputation as a club that is more than happy to be screwed right there on the trade table.

[DeeSpencer 23,189]

Hogan needs to tackle
Oscar needs to crash packs
Petracca needs to get super fit

Hard to demand it from those 3 when they see a 9 year player and number 1 pick coasting through his career.

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Just now, drdrake said:

Pick 31, shows that no other club was interested in Jack Watts and we wanted him out.  I hope the club has a plan we have 3 second round picks in what everyone that is more educated than us is saying a very weak draft year. 

Port, Sydney, and Geelong were all interested. Watts chose to go to Port.

It shows to me that we are unable to negotiate appropriately at the trade table.

At the rate it's going, I won't be surprised if they throw away pick 36 (formerly of Adelaide) for Balic.

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It all comes down to the salary.

If we are not paying a cent of his salary, pick 31 is all we could have hoped for.

We shot ourselves in the foot having him on $500k a year.  No wonder he was so comfortable.

It makes you wonder how much our spuds are getting paid when we don't have a bona fide star and Port can have Gray, Boak, Dixon, Hartlett, Wines, Wingard, Ryder, Rockliff and Motlop all on big money.  Wow.