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Keep up the contributions, Kurt. I remember you being all over Brendan McCartney to the MFC before anyone else. Its obvious you have a solid source, we need people like you on here more than we need oxygen.

I've heard from a source within port that Wines will explore his options in Victoria at the end of 2018, depending on ports flag credentials. Interesting

As dumb as your new post in the Lever thread. Stop attention seeking.

I watched last night and I would love to see evidence Gaff is soft. Goes when it's his turn and would be in the top 5 gut runners in the league. Most players can go the hard ball not many have the mental or physical capacity to gut run like he does. Also makes quick decisions and executes cleanly. Anyone that doesnt think he is worth a first rounder and a reasonable player overvalues picks.

My mail is good. Adelaide understand the situation and he's on the way

Anyone else sick to death of that stupid [censored] "Why don't we have both" meme?

Yes, Curnow will make most taken before him look 'inferior'. He should have gone higher but his indiscretion a few days before the draft saw him slide to pick 12. He was certainly on our radar for an earlier pick. As an aside it is worth noting that several clubs bypassed him as a tall forward/utillity. Essendon took Aaron Francis @ pick 6 who hasn't worked hard enough to be fit. Has played 5 games for 2 goals. Carlton took Harry McKay @ pick 10 (ie before Curnow). Has played 2 games for 2 goals. Brisbane took Josh Schache @ pick 2. Has played 27 games for 10 goals but is really struggling. Weideman compares very well to all three, especially in attitude and committment. Has played 10 games for 7 goals. He is showing the most progress and the best signs of succeeding. He may not become a star but I doubt he will be the dud of the talls in the top 10 of his year. I am confident we will look back on that draft and will be very happy with the players available at our picks: Oliver over Parish and Weideman over Francis and McKay.

Nope. It was a done deal verbally a while ago with Lever. Basically a couple of days after he met with us. If Lever doesn't land with us he has either stabbed us in the back bad or Crows ask way too much.

If there is trouble at the Dogs my one from left field would be McRae... Not a rumour just an observation of the type of player who would fit nicely.

Jake Lever will be playing for Melbourne next year

Demonland is, without doubt, the best place in Australia for sauces.

I have heard from a couple of long term crows members that the crows were shocked by how big our offer is, they knew pretty quickly they wouldn't be able to match it.

By god! Did I enjoy watching that Second Quarter of Essendons Final..

The standard of the game in Adelaide never reached any great heights and I must confess that like many around here, I shudder every time Ollie Wines bursts through a pack and kicks a damaging goal. The words "Dimitri" and "Toumpas" immediately thrust themselves inside my cranium and I have visions of our Jimmy out there on the field and they give me an automatic hour long migraine. That's why I'm delighted the umpire stuck it right up the Port Adelaide fans and awarded that penalty for around the neck, at the one time highlighting the stupidity of the official rule interpretation that was apparently ignored and awarding the game to the Eagles. Now, I no longer have to watch Ollie/Jimmy again (at least till next year) and I hope the Weagles now go on to do a Footscray and end up beating Adelaide in the granny just to teach them a lesson for tanking in Round 23.

he needs to play; he's barely played in two years due to various injuries

Lever has met with both Melbourne and Collingwood. One meeting went very well. The other didn't.

Some here should go back over the first part of Josh Kennedy's career. Early on he was getting games at Carlton, but doing very little with them (5 goals in his first season, 6 in his second ...). It wasn't until his 4th season that he started averaging 2 goals a game, and his 6th before he exceeded that. Weideman has time on his side. (though also confirms how good Hogan is ...)

"A bit of an upgrade on Kennedy" would have to be the understatement of the year. And second rounder? Seriously... :/ I guess we can get Stringer for pick 100 whilst we are at it.

Some good points. but in terms of our team we have way too many clangers - ie kicks under little pressure that miss their target. But those clangers are exacerbated by the fact that we have many players with poor technique and poor technique is exposed under pressure. Dom Tyson is a good example. A big part of his problem is that as an inside mid he is often kicking under pressure. He has a really poor technique, dropping it miles from his foot and under pressure this leads to turnovers. unfortunately Viney is not dissimilar. in fact i would say the majority of MFC players have poor technique. Compare him to Dusty Martin - or Selwood and Dangerfiled- who has a terrific technique and even under pressure usually executes.

To be fair, the deliberate out of bounds free against West Coke was laughable. Port had their chances and blew it.

Spencer, 8 years in the system and 4 disposals, no marks and dominated in the tap outs in the VFL. it's not as if it's an isolated performance. FMD he has to go.

Port was robbed. Kennedy kicked the ball out of the port players fingers. Kicking in danger. Shuey is just a cheat. No free for that shrug.

Nev says hi!

Pretty harsh comment on Pedo. He has a had a great year! Showed alot of ticker! He gives a consistent contest and holds his own. Would be a coaches favourite. He is only 30 and durable. Great work ethic and versatile! Pedo is my first picked at the selection table. You know what you are going to get from him. Just like Daniel Ward and Nathan 'Doggy' Brown when they were playing...

Pure 100% hyperbole. How bout we let Brayshaw and the club doctors make an educated call rather than spewing uninformed statements from the cheapest of seats

Meh. One side made the finals, the other fell short at the death. Not ideal but certainly not the worst thing ever. We're still headed in the right direction.

He hurt his neck, theres no mail to say there was any concussion. So what issue are you talking about?

Why? You can't avoid accidental injuries.

"Are you keeping Buckley?" "Yes" "Well, thanks for the meeting. I'll just see myself out"

My nasty wish was for the Eagles to lose by just ONE point. Then they would know what Melbourne felt like two weeks ago. Didn't happen. Next week my two least favoutite teams ( not counting Collingwood) GWS and the Weagles. Is it possible they could both be disqualified and play no further part this season. Wish it was.

shuey just signed a new four year deal so we're next to no shot if the rumours are true and gaff is available...then we gotta get him pick 10 - lever 2018 1st rounder + kent - gaff 4th round 2017 - harley balic and the latter is basically adding a homesick player who showed that at underage level he can get a fair bit of the football (although i don't trust his disposal skills) - wouldn't even think he'd be in our best 25 tbh B: Jetta - Frost - Lever HB: Hunt - O Mac - Hibberd C: Gaff - Jones - Lewis HF: Petracca - T Mac - Melksham F: Watts - Hogan - Garlett Foll: Gawn - Oliver - Viney I/C: Salem - Tyson - Hannan - Vince Emerg: Brayshaw - Pedersen - Maynard i am still uncertain as to whether we can play t mac, watts, hogan and pedo in the same forward line, but i definitely want t mac forward of the ball in 2018 - we looked better for mine for his presence forward watts best form was as a floating forward relieving ruck - he has to get his fitness right to play that role i have faith that frost can command a spot in the back 7 (where a rotation of lewis, salem, and vince / brayshaw can play that 'floating' defender to accompany the other six) sigh...gaff and lever really help our side fingers crossed.........

nope started around the chest then as shuey raised his arm the tacklers arm went around the neck

The Port Big Footy Site is painful reading.... No complaints against that last free and overall acceptance... To MFC supporters this comment may resonate: " The mental fragility of this team will see us crumble following this game for next season" https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/a-fitting-end.1176756/page-2

WA just became unliveable for at least the next week.

That last free was straight out of the Selwood Bros 'how to cheat' book. An appalling decision. PS and of course the umpiring team will come out and say it was fair and just.

At least we narrowly avoided having our first final appearance in 11 years called by Basil fucken Zempelis.

I nearly laughed when Hamish and Lingy said today what a remarkable come back from essendon going from wooden spooners to playing finals, they should be applauded. I will tell you why, because they wernt a bottom team that were like a Carlton, Brisbane or even Melbourne from years back where we were just crap. They got there players back who are pretty good and experienced. They were always going to ahve a better season. They got the wooden spoon because they lost all these players through there own wrong doing.

The last thing to touch the ball was Wingard's boot, therefore it was a goal.

Oh for god sake just when the usual hand ringers were taking over the thread, along comes a supporter with common sense and consideration to contributing factors which effected the continuity of the AFL side and the subsequent domino effect to our VFL side.

The arzz has officially dropped out of the bombers. Eight bus loads of bomber fans went up the highway. Hopefully most of them will stay up there.

I don't think it's right for people to take comfort in the outcome of this match by thinking that we would have been beaten the same way like it somehow lessens the fact that we capitulated in the last two rounds. We showed a few times this year that we can stand up against 'better' teams. It only makes me more disappointed we didn't give ourselves the chance to show it again.

I wish Cameron Ling would stop talking.

DIE ESSENDRUG DIE total scum club

I thank the lord every day we moved up in the draft to pick superstar Clayton Oliver. Darcy Parish would be a whipping boy at Melbourne, he is so vanilla.

We need to improve our starting 18 and push our current bottom 3-4 into consistent VFL time. Being the amount of injury our senior core had this year and Vandenberg, McKenna and Garland missed all year with Smith missing most who all would have played significant VFL games. Based on this it is amazing Casey have done as well as they have.

5 turnovers in the 1st quarter against Collingwood, playing on the wing. All unforced.

Agree on the first if we took Kelly but word was it would have been Billings (not as clear whether that is a loss at all). The Vince trade is one where it is clearly a win for both parties and as you would expect this season it has moved into the Crows favour. We needed to the short term benefit of quality and experience and Vince as a B&F winner has held up his end. This also assumes we would have taken Crouch with that choice.

Because he is not Dusty or Danger...and his turnovers are unforced....

Would be interested in Dahlhaus

I tend to think that the specifics of a players medical history are none of our business. If they tell us, great! But I don't think they're obliged to tell us anything other than 'foot' and expected date of return.