Welcome to Demonland: Pick 83

[Nascent 9,054]

Looks like we've settled our senior list with 33 players leading into the draft, giving us the option to add 3 more players to our list via the draft.

After pick 5 and 9, this leaves 83 as our next live selection subject to potential further trades. Given the amount of picks the Lions, Blues, Bombers and Suns have for their academy & father/son selections, this pick will likely settle on draft night between 55 and 65 give or take.

We may also decide to pass and hold one spot over for the ssp period, but given the talk about how deep this draft is, I dare say we may take a late punt on a kid.

So, any suggestions at this late part of the draft?

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[Red and Blue Flame 179]

Watch out for Jack Henderson. Werribee VFL - won the BoG medal in GF that Mannagh won.

 

We interviewed him (Geelong the other) and he said it went really well.

I hope we get him!

Edited October 23 by Red and Blue Flame

[Nascent 9,054]

Thanks for that info red and blue flame.

Read on here that Riley Bice was also being looked at during the season. Think from @dazzledavey36 maybe?

[demoncat 1,258]

4 minutes ago, Red and Blue Flame said:

Watch out for Jack Henderson. Werribee VFL - won the BoG medal in GF that Mannagh won.

 

We interviews him (Geelong the other) and he said it went really well.

I hope we get him!

Love a Werribee boy

Would love to get him or Riley Bice onto the list

[Where Demons Dare 147]

59 minutes ago, Nascent said:

So, any suggestions at this late part of the draft?

I mentioned in another thread, but Clanny Dennis would be my pick if he lasted to our pick. Under 18 All Australian CHB this year. May has a couple of years left in him, we need to think about recruiting some tall defenders after delisting Tomlinson. Tmac and May being 32 and 33 respectively, we need some fresh blood in defence. 

[dazzledavey36 54,089]

55 minutes ago, Nascent said:

Thanks for that info red and blue flame.

Read on here that Riley Bice was also being looked at during the season. Think from @dazzledavey36 maybe?

Yeah another we have spoken to as well.

Unfortunately I think he gets taken way before our 3rd pick. 

One player I know for a fact that we have strong interest in and should be available at this pick is Tye Hourigan from Traralgon. Genuine country footy star who's very similar to Tom Stewart. 

[adonski 11,610]

Gee wiz I'll be sitting there at approx. 3:08am on night 2 of the draft in excitement now (unfortunately I'm being serious)

[Demon Disciple 11,999]

Here’s hoping lalor makes it to 83

[Supreme_Demon 3,715]

15 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Yeah another we have spoken to as well.

Unfortunately I think he gets taken way before our 3rd pick. 

One player I know for a fact that we have strong interest in and should be available at this pick is Tye Hourigan from Traralgon. Genuine country footy star who's very similar to Tom Stewart. 

At pick #83 I have full faith in Jason Taylor rolling the dice on a "smokey" late in the 2024 AFL National Draft.

[Timothy Reddan-A'Blew 5,030]

1 hour ago, Nascent said:

After pick 5 and 9, this leaves 83 as our next live selection subject to potential further trades. Given the amount of picks the Lions, Blues, Bombers and Suns have for their academy & father/son selections, this pick will likely settle on draft night between 55 and 65 give or take.

Tom McDonald, pick #53, 2010

A repeat would do.

Not quite as convincingly, Marty Hore, pick #56, 2018.

But still...

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[adonski 11,610]

 

[Nascent 9,054]

3 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

Here’s hoping lalor makes it to 83

I hear Adelaide's keen at pick 82.

[ClaNiKo 104]

5 hours ago, Nascent said:

After pick 5 and 9, this leaves 83 as our next live selection subject to potential further trades. Given the amount of picks the Lions, Blues, Bombers and Suns have for their academy & father/son selections, this pick will likely settle on draft night between 55 and 65 give or take.

Apologies I have no clue how picks work but how does 83 become 55-65?

[redandbluemakepurple 358]

25 minutes ago, ClaNiKo said:

Apologies I have no clue how picks work but how does 83 become 55-65?

Teams generally pass on picks after three or four rounds.  So no-one else will be picking.

[Nascent 9,054]

47 minutes ago, ClaNiKo said:

Apologies I have no clue how picks work but how does 83 become 55-65?

Basically, the clubs I've mentioned have priority access to players due to either the father/son rule or academy zones. Other clubs can bid on these players but they won't get access to them if the original club the player "belongs" to matches the bid. They do this with their draft picks which have assigned value based on its number. Max value is pick 1 @3000 points with each subsequent pick decreasing in value from there.

Clubs have worked around this by stockpiling later selections to match their highly rated kids. It's why we have obtained essendons pick 9 by giving them 28, 40, 46, 54, 65 as well as a future 1st pick. 

When a bid comes in for kako, at say pick 6 for an example - essendon will then have to burn through 28, 40 and 46 to match that bid. 

There's others nuances like point discounts for these players.

Gold coast and Brisbane have similarly traded out/down for the same reason and will similarly burn through picks, thus bringing 83 down to a rough range I've estimated to be 55 - 65.

List sizes will also come into play and some teams may only take 2 players and pass on their later selections.

Edited October 23 by Nascent

[Older demon 2,736]

Without checking the list update with Marty Hore signing on for another year staying as a rookie and Melk going back onto the main list. I think that makes  5 rookie spots. I believe AMW has to come off the Cat B list so maybe he is the 6th rookie. Not sure if that influences how many we can draft. 

[Bowserpower 141]

How and why did we even get this pick?

[spirit of norm smith 16,168]

 

Would love to give JT spin the wheel for a genuine diamond in the rough!! It’s a very deep draft and there is excellent youngsters all through this years group   

With picks being used in all the father son and academies matched bids, we might see the last round and final picks being again around 65.
That’s where I’d like to see the Dees give an opportunity to at least one more youngster (as well as to 5&9).  There’s talent right through this draft. Here’s some late draft pick options 

Oliver Warburton. Hbf. Murray
Will Hayes. Mid. WA Claremont.
Gabriel Stumpf  CHF . Northern
Patrick Retschko. Hbf/mid. Oakleigh 
Oliver Depaoli-Kubank. Running mid. Tassie.
Noah Mraz. CHB. Dandenong.
Luke Kennedy . Mid. Sandringham
Cody Angove. Running mid. WA Claremont
Kade Herbert. Mid/hff. SA WWT eagles 
Jett Hasting. Hbf. SA WWT eagles

I agree that Jack Henderson (Mid/utility. Werribee) is a likely mature aged option given his excellent 2023 and 2024.  However it is more likely that the Cats use one of their 3 draft picks to grab him   Henderson is a local and the Cats like getting in mature ready to go players. 

 

[red and blue forever 999]

13 minutes ago, Bowserpower said:

How and why did we even get this pick?

it is our round 5 pick

[adonski 11,610]

The AFL app says we'll use 3 picks

Collingwood, Fremantle, Melbourne and North Melbourne are all anticipated to use three selections at the draft, while Brisbane, Geelong, Port Adelaide, Sydney and West Coast are likely to use three or four picks.

[layzie 33,724]

Someone will slide to this pick.

We should do a sweep with everyone here.

[58er 6,335]

19 hours ago, Red and Blue Flame said:

Watch out for Jack Henderson. Werribee VFL - won the BoG medal in GF that Mannagh won.

 

We interviewed him (Geelong the other) and he said it went really well.

I hope we get him!

Boy we won’t beat Cats at 83 can we move up and trump them like they did with Holmes to us? 

[Diamond_Jim 12,504]

17 hours ago, red and blue forever said:

it is our round 5 pick

I've always assumed picks are unlimited until you pass so perhaps we even go into round 6 as in reality it will only be one or two picks after our round 5 pick

[Roger Mellie 3,950]

On 23/10/2024 at 17:14, dazzledavey36 said:

Yeah another we have spoken to as well.

Unfortunately I think he gets taken way before our 3rd pick. 

One player I know for a fact that we have strong interest in and should be available at this pick is Tye Hourigan from Traralgon. Genuine country footy star who's very similar to Tom Stewart. 

He better get his skates on and nominate then.

[Roger Mellie 3,950]

I'm (perhaps wrongly) assuming that if we go into the draft with three picks, we can use them any which way. If we went in with two, that's it. I think it gives us the option of splitting one of our first round picks if a tantalising offer emerges. If it does, we drop can pick 83, if it doesn't we unearth a gem late in the draft.