8 hours ago, binman said:

100% Agree.

Bailey from the Lions is the perfect example of the sort of player and role that the Colt could fill for us.

High half forward who can get up and down the ground, hits targets, wins his own ball, can kick goals and when required can also go into the middle. 

The alternative is players like Sparrow and Jordon who can play as pure mids when required (eg to give our starting mids a chop out) but don't look natural forwards when resting at half forward flank. 

I suspect Windsor will actually start forward and of course rotating on a wing and will give us some much needed added pace across half forward, especially when Pickett rotates up the ground.

Not sure Tholstrup has Bailey's pace, he's a bit of a different style of forward/mid. One of Tholstrup's advantages is he can probably fill a lot of roles as a forward. He can play closer to goal as a goal kicker, he can chop our talls and compete in the air a bit, he can hit up higher as a lead up mark linking player. As well as develop in to a midfielder in time. I see him a little like the Rivers of the forward line with the way Riv has been used as the 7th defender who can cover various jobs. He'll give good defensive effort but not sure he has the pace to really be similar to Bailey or ANB for that matter.

Sparrow's skills let him down at times across half forward but he's often effective there purely by having the athleticism and size to muck up contests that others who get stuck at half forward are either too slow or too small to be a nuisance. Tholstrup's size, burst and aggression couple with skills to back it up make him a nice match up for certain bigger half backs who have given us trouble in one way or another. No pressure kid but there's a certain Collingwood half back that we need to match with an aggressive big body 

 

Edited November 22, 20231 yr by DeeSpencer

46 minutes ago, Storm Boy said:

https://omny.fm/shows/wide-world-of-sports-6pr/koltyn-tholstrup-and-his-move-to-melbourne

This is a great interview with Koltyn Tholstrup on 6PR in WA. Koltyn spoke very well and wants to play Round 1 2024. Arriving in Melbourne on Saturday and at training on Monday. 

Sounds like a great country lad.

And prononced "Tolstrup".  The H is silent according to dad and gramps apparently.

9 hours ago, Mach5 said:

Well then... you’re mad.

How dare you have a differing view!

I'd be wrapped if Kolt developed into the dangerous small/med goal kicking forward that we are so lacking atm. I sit at the G with someone who screams every time ANB fumbles and stuffs up an opportunity. It's quite entertaining to watch

59 minutes ago, Storm Boy said:

https://omny.fm/shows/wide-world-of-sports-6pr/koltyn-tholstrup-and-his-move-to-melbourne

This is a great interview with Koltyn Tholstrup on 6PR in WA. Koltyn spoke very well and wants to play Round 1 2024. Arriving in Melbourne on Saturday and at training on Monday. 

So much better than the interview on SEN with those peanuts Gossage and Cummings who were already trying to plant a biased “go home” seed.

The kid sounds switched on and very well spoken for his age.

1 hour ago, Storm Boy said:

https://omny.fm/shows/wide-world-of-sports-6pr/koltyn-tholstrup-and-his-move-to-melbourne

This is a great interview with Koltyn Tholstrup on 6PR in WA. Koltyn spoke very well and wants to play Round 1 2024. Arriving in Melbourne on Saturday and at training on Monday. 

Agree Storm.  Fantastic interview.  Seems incredibly grounded and mature, and focused on the job at hand.

5 hours ago, Jibroni said:

Have we come up with a nickname for him yet?

 

Don't know about a nickname, but I've been playing heaps of Baldur's Gate 3.... and sorry to say he has a Dungeons and Dragons name.

11 hours ago, drdrake said:

 I would like another forward who can play mid, rather than mids playing half forward like we do.

This. It’s pervasive and I think we are done with it.

10 hours ago, binman said:

100% Agree.

Bailey from the Lions is the perfect example of the sort of player and role that the Colt could fill for us.

High half forward who can get up and down the ground, hits targets, wins his own ball, can kick goals and when required can also go into the middle. 

The alternative is players like Sparrow and Jordon who can play as pure mids when required (eg to give our starting mids a chop out) but don't look natural forwards when resting at half forward flank. 

I would suggest the alternatives are the Spargo and ANB types that can be effective in a specific role but are not forwards, have little forward craft or nous, and are just not dangerous in advanced positions. 

Resting mids are one thing but @drdrakeis alluding to a bigger issue that has reared it head the last two years where we have relied on too few to take advantage of too many I50s and we just didn’t have the cattle to connect and convert those opportunities. We can now only have ANB in the forward line who isn’t a natural forward and that is a far healthier place to be.

4 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

We have not finished in the top 4 this year or last.

Strange. Every ladder I look at says we did.

Some comments from Rookie me show why we picked Koltyn:

A brilliant creator and finisher, many of Tholstrup’s disposals create opportunities for inside 50 targets, always looking to take the game on with his penetrative kicking. His bullish nature and strong contested work, along with his aggressive kicking decisions lead him to be a handy pinch hitter in the midfield as well.

Has he won the Brownlow yet? 

12 hours ago, rpfc said:

This. It’s pervasive and I think we are done with it.

I would suggest the alternatives are the Spargo and ANB types that can be effective in a specific role but are not forwards, have little forward craft or nous, and are just not dangerous in advanced positions. 

Resting mids are one thing but @drdrakeis alluding to a bigger issue that has reared it head the last two years where we have relied on too few to take advantage of too many I50s and we just didn’t have the cattle to connect and convert those opportunities. We can now only have ANB in the forward line who isn’t a natural forward and that is a far healthier place to be.

Not enough of our mids though kick goals also. We need Trac to kick 50.10 not 29.34 or similar I guess but Kolt looks as though he will balance the ledger and I suspect that his mate Caleb on the wing may well tip that balance further!!

A great example of  recruiting for needs not only pace run strength and power BUT goals from both will be expected and plenty we hope. 

14 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

I suspect Windsor will actually start forward and of course rotating on a wing and will give us some much needed added pace across half forward, especially when Pickett rotates up the ground.

Not sure Tholstrup has Bailey's pace, he's a bit of a different style of forward/mid. One of Tholstrup's advantages is he can probably fill a lot of roles as a forward. He can play closer to goal as a goal kicker, he can chop our talls and compete in the air a bit, he can hit up higher as a lead up mark linking player. As well as develop in to a midfielder in time. I see him a little like the Rivers of the forward line with the way Riv has been used as the 7th defender who can cover various jobs. He'll give good defensive effort but not sure he has the pace to really be similar to Bailey or ANB for that matter.

Sparrow's skills let him down at times across half forward but he's often effective there purely by having the athleticism and size to muck up contests that others who get stuck at half forward are either too slow or too small to be a nuisance. Tholstrup's size, burst and aggression couple with skills to back it up make him a nice match up for certain bigger half backs who have given us trouble in one way or another. No pressure kid but there's a certain Collingwood half back that we need to match with an aggressive big body 

 

Love your comment Dee! 

 

Looks a little like Dermott Brereton back in the early eighties.

If he's half as good as The Kid were onto a winner.

I remember Brereton was zoned to the Saints like alot of Hawthorn players were down on the Penninsula.

Didnt Glenferrie switch his family address to a residential unit just outside Saints zone. Literally on the opposite side of the road.

Probably cost the Saints a flag or two. The eighties were a hot mess.  Almost bankrupted the league.

19 hours ago, Beetle said:

So much better than the interview on SEN with those peanuts Gossage and Cummings who were already trying to plant a biased “go home” seed.

The kid sounds switched on and very well spoken for his age.

You’ll find that would be very much tongue in cheek, well at least from Scotty Cummings.  Our boys played together when the family moved back to Perth in 2022 and they speak fondly of Melbourne.

They loved their time there and love getting back over there.

16 hours ago, deva5610 said:

Strange. Every ladder I look at says we did.

After finals definitely not.

I might be late to the table with these comments but I definitely see a striking similarity between Koltyn and one of the all time great Demons of the past in Alan Jakovich : Size, shape, mullet, goal kicking celebrations, and cockiness.

We can only hope and pray that we’ve landed  another potential superstar

 

35 minutes ago, joeboy said:

I might be late to the table with these comments but I definitely see a striking similarity between Koltyn and one of the all time great Demons of the past in Alan Jakovich : Size, shape, mullet, goal kicking celebrations, and cockiness.

We can only hope and pray that we’ve landed  another potential superstar

 

3 word summary: must keep sunglasses?

got a good feeling about this kid

2 minutes ago, red and blue forever said:

got a good feeling about this kid

He’s a kid no more. Behold our very own unicorn

Bruce Lee - Enter the Dragon

Why doesn’t someone pull out a [Kolt] 45 and, bang, settle it

Lota to work with there

Need a problem solved? Why doesn’t someone pull out a Koltyn45 and BANG BANG BANG, settle it

will leave it with you all

3 hours ago, Demonland said:

What a great listen. Kid speaks very well. I have a good feeling about him after that

21 hours ago, rpfc said:

This. It’s pervasive and I think we are done with it.

I would suggest the alternatives are the Spargo and ANB types that can be effective in a specific role but are not forwards, have little forward craft or nous, and are just not dangerous in advanced positions. 

Whilst i would agree Nibbla is not a natural goal kicking forward it's bit of a stretch to say he has 'little forward craft or nous' and is 'just not dangerous in advanced positions'.

After all, Nibbla:

• kicked 19.11 for the season 
• had 14 goal assists - the fifth most behind Tracc, Kozzie, Chandler and Viney (of the permanent forwards only Koz and chandler had more more with 23 and 15)
• had 112 score involvements - the fourth most behind Tracc, Kozzie and Viney (of the permanent forwards only Koz had more more with 135)

It's worth noting that as a high half forward he gets less opportunities to score goals than players like Chandler and Koz who operate closer to goal, so they are pretty good offensive numbers.    

#nibbla myths 

On 22/11/2023 at 17:28, Jibroni said:

Have we come up with a nickname for him yet?

I do like the Kenny Powers connection.

KP all the way.