The definition of laziness is 

a)We lost this at selection

b) AFL is corrupt and cost us the game

c) Goodwin cost us the game

a) Selection was okay, started fast and got them on the back foot, they settled and we changed it up went small and mobile in F50 and had our chances

b) Jumper punch turnover 10m out, Gawn touched Oliver’s shot on goal, which was going through 

c) See a) and also Goodwin didn’t miss some easy set shots

Oliver poor, Bowey really didn’t go hard enough at the footy which ended in Motlops goal.

And as for “we are the laughingstock of the AFL” ffs are you under 12, we’ve been there and I remember it

 

 

3 minutes ago, 1858 said:

I've said it once and I'll say it again. 

When Burgess walked out, it wasn't just our fitness but a whole lot of professionalism that left too.

Goodwin is too close to this group. Too much warm fuzzy culture and complete neglect to the forward half.

He has completely coached the attacking nouse, system and instinct out of this team with his stupid squeeze em up strategy. We squeeze ourselves up. We can't transition to save ourselves.

 

 

It has nothing to do with Burgess lol

It is still *cultural*. We have choked on the big stage in a way literally no other club has in the modern era. 

I’m truly gutted to the core!  We can make all the excuses in the world about injuries costing us tonight, but I’m not wearing it.  Chronic inaccuracy in front of goal, horrible delivery forward of centre and disgraceful discipline cost us, plain and simple!  I’ll be licking my wounds for a while now.  I need a cave to sulk in.

1 minute ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Vineys kick resulted in the winning goal for Carlton. Mind you he had time and space to kick better.

Can't just blame Viney.
It was a circus in there alot of the time.


 

Edited September 15, 20231 yr by Fork 'em

1 minute ago, Dannyz said:

Did Tmac have a touch in the last? He was beyond disgusting tonight.

No

 

Heimlich maneuver needed for this group of players. Mind boggling coaching and selections. Shoutout to Steven May for an awesome game.

6 minutes ago, Bates Mate said:

1.37 left to go we are up the ball is in levers hands did he really need to go long to a contest? 

Why change something that we've been doing most of the year? It makes me sick watching us kick long to a contest. Nothing has changed in 2 years.

Why the hell didn't we activate the sub and replace the invisible man T Mac? 

I don't want to listen to another Goody presser till round 1 next year. He's full of hot air. "We want to win a flag in front of our home fans". 0-4 at the G in finals past 2 years. Thanks Goody.

I'm not gutted because the Lions would have smashed us if we got through.

And I don't want to ever read another post saying how wonderful Choco is. 

Bunch of flops. 

6 minutes ago, COOLX said:

The Dees are the Greg Norman of football , chokers .  We need to get rid of some players BB ,T.Mac, Harmes , Jordon ,Schache , Grundy the most expensive back up ruckman in afl history and Goody , the reserves coach ,Richardson,Pert that's for starters .I would include the fitness coach . This club makes me sick.

What did the reserves coach do wrong ?

Just now, Fork 'em said:

They play like they're already scared.

Who would've thought back in that glorious day September 2021... we were talking about a Deenasty, we were so dominant.

We stil are very dominant in contested footy and defensive structures, but can't kick goals to save our lives under pressure.

5 minutes ago, At the break of Gawn said:

That’s broken me.

Just wanted to see a finals win at the MCG and we couldn’t ice it. 

People will say the Grundy trade didn’t work because of Gawn’s ruck dominance but Gawn didn’t hold up his end of the bargain in the forward line all season. It was shown again when he missed two easy shots.

I’m off AFL Media until the Grand final. Can’t stand the Voss love in when Carlton was cooked we had them and we couldn’t shut the door. 

The roar at the end was deafening. Saw a few young supporters crying.

Umpiring was a disgrace too.

Yep Grundy gawn, was always going to fail when you expect max to actually kick goals. He is the worst set shot in the comp. 

Disgusted

Mentally soft

Even the captain missing sitters

Furious at that result, absolutely gutted

Massive choke. I’m disgusted 

won’t sleep tonight 

max tried his heart out. May was magnificent. Rivers did well. Clearance work was good.

but I question some players mentality. Some appalling decision making. And as for skills? Some of our disposal was atrocious.

plenty of heart. Can’t fault that. But I’m tired at looking at huff and puff footy. Take the game on sometimes ffs.

fckn disgusted

Dropping a retiring Hibberd who smashed Jamie Elliot last game will be a huge blight on this club. Simply why. 

2 minutes ago, Superunknown said:

Question - is max right for the captain ? 
 

edgy and zeitgesty!

very good question. Needs to pass the baton, but to who.

Devoted 

Steven May was great! Had Petty and a Melksham not got injured I reckon that flag was ours for the taking. Disgusting way to go out though

Steven May take a bow. Player of the finals for me. If everyone was as disciplined as him, we’d be much better off. Absolutely immense. And he’s not getting any younger. 
 

 

14 minutes ago, ElDiablo14 said:

So is Max going to say it was a Melbourne like loss? 🤢🤢🤢

It was

That’s the worse Melbourne loss since the ‘87 Prelim.

Im absolutely gutted.

Some reflections:

Time for McDonald to retire and Jordon to move on.

Another woeful display of kicking for goal. We desperately need a dominant, goalkicking full forward (and it's not JVR, at least for now).

This was NOT the fault of Goody or the umpires. We wasted enough good opportunities to have won by six goals, and blame for that falls squarely on players who faltered under pressure.

Bowey a good defender but a dangerous liability when left one-on-one with a tall forward.

Petracca will never be another Dusty unless and until his goalkicking accuracy improves.

Oliver's injury proved a huge setback. He wasn't anywhere near his best after he returned to action.

Roll on the draft and trade periods. We have holes to fill. Nothing very exciting coming from Casey at the moment. Laurie and Woewoedin couldn't take their chances this season.

 

1 minute ago, Dannyz said:

Dropping a retiring Hibberd who smashed Jamie Elliot last game will be a huge blight on this club. Simply why. 

I don’t know, maybe he can’t play two games in a row because his leg is completely stuffed?

17 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

Oh it's rigged. But I'm making money from it.

Carlton have 2016 Bulldogs vibes.

Ride the wave

 

Gone McDonald, Langdon, Hunter, Chandler, Jordan. Biggest blunder was picking McDonald, he is cooked, surely Grundy would have provided more.  The end of a one premiership era.  Sure they tried hard but having a 193cm wingman like Acres who can run mark and kick was the difference. I have been really disappointed in Langdon this year. His kicking is woeful and Hunter is not the answer. He lacks penetration with his kicks and is not fast enough. Both he and Langdon are too small.  

19 minutes ago, bing181 said:

Oliver, Gawn, Viney, Sparrow, Spargo, ANB, Tomlinson, Chandler all kicked points, zero goals.
 

To be fair Oliver would have kicked a goal if max didn’t palm it into the post