NON-MFC: Rd 06 2023

[Winners at last 4,790]

2 hours ago, layzie said:

Should have gone to the Comedy Festival.

 

I did ... saw Luke Heggie. He was very good.

Had dinner after the gig at the Imperial Hotel ... caught the end of the carnage on the big screens. 

[The heart beats true 16,443]

2 hours ago, layzie said:

Should have gone to the Comedy Festival.

 

If you get a chance go see David O’Doherty. He’s nuts.

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Damn just got back from burning my pilaf and scoffing good wine with friends.  Sydney really [censored] the bed.  Although when you look at the injury list it is in perspective... I just don't like Geelong and this result remains unsatisfactory 

[layzie 29,267]

45 minutes ago, The heart beats true said:

If you get a chance go see David O’Doherty. He’s nuts.

Always been meaning to, I may well take up that suggestion tomorrow!

[Bring-Back-Powell 13,325]

Brisbane are flying at the moment, particularly from an offensive point of view as they’ve beaten a range of sides - from premier contenders to mediocre and poor sides.

However, can anyone honestly seeing them beating a Collingwood or Geelong in a prelim or grand final at the MCG? I certainly can’t.

On another matter, we’re probably going to have to win by about 8 goals if we’re to catch Geelong on percentage. Their apparent demise after round 3  was greatly exaggerated.

Edited April 22, 2023 by Bring-Back-Powell

[Binmans PA 26,294]

I was hoping we'd be able to death ride bloody Geelong this year, but turns out, no...

[Gawndy the Great 7,641]

Once that new stadium takes capacity to 40K, it’s going to be a bloody fortress. They were already though to beat there as it is. 

[ElDiablo14 3,274]

3 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Brisbane are flying at the moment, particularly from an offensive point of view as they’ve beaten a range of sides - from premier contenders to mediocre and poor sides.

However, can anyone honestly seeing them beating a Collingwood or Geelong in a prelim or grand final at the MCG? I certainly can’t.

On another matter, we’re probably going to have to win by about 8 goals if we’re to catch Geelong on percentage. Their apparent demise after round 3  was greatly exaggerated.

Well Jeelong's 2 out of the 3 wins consisted of West Coast and Hawthorn, so you'd have to wait and see how they go against us and the likes of St Kilda, Brisbane, etc.

[Engorged Onion 9,392]

Two things: On reflection, remember how around three weeks ago, Geelong had fallen off a cliff.

Chris is a very very good coach. You don't stick around a club as long as he has as if it's an autocracy, or if you're a bit ordinary at what you do.

Three weeks ago, Geelong were going to 'not' make the finals, now they look like premiership contenders. There is enough evidence that you are still a premiership contender if you lose to teams on paper that you 'shouldn't' (in this case GC Suns).... this evidence is transferable to Melbourne and it's loss to Essendon, and subsequent loses throughout the year.

Happy Sunday everyone. 😘

Edited April 22, 2023 by Engorged Onion

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5 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Brisbane are flying at the moment, particularly from an offensive point of view as they’ve beaten a range of sides - from premier contenders to mediocre and poor sides.

However, can anyone honestly seeing them beating a Collingwood or Geelong in a prelim or grand final at the MCG? I certainly can’t.

On another matter, we’re probably going to have to win by about 8 goals if we’re to catch Geelong on percentage. Their apparent demise after round 3  was greatly exaggerated.

Brisbane are still easy to score against, that’s the area of their game that hasn’t changed.

[Bombay Airconditioning 5,945]

3 points in a half of football. Yes we’re aware who was missing for Sydney but we’re also aware of who was playing 

Heeney, Papley, Goulden, Mills, Warner, Parker. Sydney won the centre clearances 16 to 10. Geelong 91 marks to Swans 76 which can be deceiving but ultimately the big stat from the night was 22 marks inside fwd 50 to 5.

Anyway a lot still to play out this year.

[leave it to deever 16,007]

Wish it was game day.

[leave it to deever 16,007]

3 hours ago, ElDiablo14 said:

Well Jeelong's 2 out of the 3 wins consisted of West Coast and Hawthorn, so you'd have to wait and see how they go against us and the likes of St Kilda, Brisbane, etc.

This was their first game at home and the games you suggested are all there as well so it's good money they will win them. 

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5 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Once that new stadium takes capacity to 40K, it’s going to be a bloody fortress. They were already though to beat there as it is. 

And they will still only let 200 oppo supporters in.

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11 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

Are posters here unaware how horrific Sydney’s current injury list is? They’re missing an entire spine and more of talls. They’re not just rubbish, they have half a team missing. Off the top of my head they’re missing

Rampey

T Mccartin

P Mccartin

Hickey

Buddy

Amarty

Reid

Take away the Full back, centre half back, third tall defender, ruckman, centre half forward, tall forward/second ruck and full forward out of any team and they’ll capitulate. Given their injury list, tonight’s belting is completely expected and until they get some talls back the Swans are in for a world of pain.

I did not expect the manner of their performance. it was the same that they dished up in the grand final (when they had no injuries). they were not injury depleted around the ball but still got smashed. 

Injury a factor for sure but something not right at the Swans. They have always been competitive but this year their drop off in performance when not playing well is massive. The toughness and hardness they've been renowned for over the years is gone. 

[grazman 6,559]

Effort without talent at the highest level will still result in a slaughter like we saw last night.  I've predicted the Swans to fall out of the eight this year based on history (teams that get flogged in GFs rarely come up the following year) and some list deficiencies that are masked to a certain extent playing on their postage stamp home ground.  

I think the whole 'Bloods' culture like the 'Shinboner' spirit is a little overblown- particularly by the media who love the romanticism of it - it plays well when you have a good list, but it means diddly squat if your game plan doesn't stack up and you are missing key players. 

 

[Engorged Onion 9,392]

54 minutes ago, grazman said:

you are missing key players. 

Good point, and one that often gets missed when looking at games lost...

It goes as far as each team at a pinch has a max of 2 'elite' midfielders, typically speaking on their list. If one or both go down injured - then the consensus is that teams don't 'bat deep' enough. No team bats THAT deep..ever...

The greatest predictor of premiership contention is elite talent and having your top end talent on the park without minor injuries or discomfort. There is further nuance, of choosing to play whilst slightly injured, how that is played (or not discussed) in the media.

"I think the whole 'Bloods' culture like the 'Shinboner' spirit is a little overblown- particularly by the media who love the romanticism of it "

Following on to that - it's an industry of percentages from a performance perspective. We had good culture in 2021, but not the years either side of it? Only one team a year, really taps into their 'cultural heritage', whilst the others don't?

Culture isn't ethereal - culture is about a set of personal (not organisational) standards that are operationalised behaviourally contextually, repeated time and time again... not just when it's easy, and when it's difficult.

Yes I am being reductionist on a Sunday.. 🤓

Edited April 22, 2023 by Engorged Onion

[Deebauched 1,219]

God i hate Geelong.

First thing i saw this morning was AFL match centre pic of Hawkins grotesque head celebrating another goal at the taxpayer funded Cattery.

I suddenly felt violently ill almost sprayed vomit all over the bedroom wall.  I cant stand those entitled farm boys. Selwood unfurling the flag with all family present would of been another vomitous sight.

Darcy would have to be a given to return to the cattery farm soon.

Swans will definitely lobby the AFL  not to play at the cattery for a while same as the Eagles.

MFC will always play down at KARAK. 

 

Edited April 23, 2023 by Deebauched

[John Crow Batty 8,279]

Sydney’s injury list is as bad as West Coasts at the moment. Forward line and back line decimated. 

[old55 21,421]

42 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

operationalised behaviourally contextually

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45 minutes ago, Engorged Onion said:

Good point, and one that often gets missed when looking at games lost...

It goes as far as each team at a pinch has a max of 2 'elite' midfielders, typically speaking on their list. If one or both go down injured - then the consensus is that teams don't 'bat deep' enough. No team bats THAT deep..ever...

The greatest predictor of premiership contention is elite talent and having your top end talent on the park without minor injuries or discomfort. There is further nuance, of choosing to play whilst slightly injured, how that is played (or not discussed) in the media.

"I think the whole 'Bloods' culture like the 'Shinboner' spirit is a little overblown- particularly by the media who love the romanticism of it "

Following on to that - it's an industry of percentages from a performance perspective. We had good culture in 2021, but not the years either side of it? Only one team a year, really taps into their 'cultural heritage', whilst the others don't?

Culture isn't ethereal - culture is about a set of personal (not organisational) standards that are operationalised behaviourally contextually, repeated time and time again... not just when it's easy, and when it's difficult.

Yes I am being reductionist on a Sunday.. 🤓

My Geelong supporting uncle was saying a couple of weeks back that they were missing too many defenders and you can only cover so many injuries, and particularly if they're elite players like Stewart. 

At the time we had a conversation about the last three premiers and that they were the teams with the least amount of injuries at the right time, and it's that little bit of luck that goes a long way to winning a flag.

Richmond had a blessed run, as did we in 2021, and Geelong for most of last year. 

When the Bulldogs won it in 2016, they are the outlier, given their horrid injury run that year, but it seems highly likely that whoever gets the best run with injuries this year will win it.

Collingwood are the potential outlier there, given their system is still strong without a ruckman. But there is a breaking point, and if we have Max and Grundy running around against no one on KB, our mids are going to be able to get the upper hand.

Edited April 23, 2023 by A F

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9 hours ago, Gawndy the Great said:

Once that new stadium takes capacity to 40K, it’s going to be a bloody fortress. They were already though to beat there as it is. 

And will the Afl still refuse to schedule Pies and tiges games there, citing crowd capacity?

You bet. Just pencil in the Demons for the 100th time. Nobody cares about them. 

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19 minutes ago, old55 said:

1 hour ago, Engorged Onion said:

operationalised behaviourally contextually

too verbose? 🤓😇 apols!

Edited April 23, 2023 by Engorged Onion

[Demonsone 1,634]

What can you say about the free agency& trade rules when a team like the cats have been in the premiership clock for a decade can get the best full forward in Cameron & after winning a flag get gifted with a top 10 pick in Bowes & a pick 7.. Understand Dees got lever & May but we were not playing finals, gave up Hogan to get May…

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10 hours ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Brisbane are flying at the moment, particularly from an offensive point of view as they’ve beaten a range of sides - from premier contenders to mediocre and poor sides.

However, can anyone honestly seeing them beating a Collingwood or Geelong in a prelim or grand final at the MCG? I certainly can’t.

On another matter, we’re probably going to have to win by about 8 goals if we’re to catch Geelong on percentage. Their apparent demise after round 3  was greatly exaggerated.

Brisbane has one genuine away win so far, and that was yesterday’s far from convincing win over GWS, a likely bottom 6 if not bottom 4 side. 

Their home wins vs us and Collingwood were excellent but they have dominated at home for 4 years without being good enough to do real finals damage. I’m not at all convinced enough has changed there. 

Geelong are the only good side to have played both Hawthorn and West Coast plus they got Sydney at the best possible time. Their percentage is hardly reflective of their season so far.