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You would think after winning a flag players would be lining up to join the Demons. I have not heard one player be linked to us with the exception of Grundy and he is only linked to us because Collingwood are desperate to unload some dollars on a player who is injury prone and not in their best 22 anymore and we are in desperate need of a backup ruckmen with LJ leaving us high and dry.

LJ leaves after 3 years. Kozzy has one foot out the door and might be gone at the end of next year.

Are players not attracted to the Dees because we don't have the dollars to spend?

What is it about our club that doesn't attract players if there aren't big bucks on the table?

 

 

I think a permanent home might help a bit.

This nomad [censored] is just wrong.

 
  On 15/09/2022 at 10:20, pewpewpew said:

You would think after winning a flag players would be lining up to join the Demons. I have not heard one player be linked to us with the exception of Grundy and he is only linked to us because Collingwood are desperate to unload some dollars on a player who is injury prone and not in their best 22 anymore and we are in desperate need of a backup ruckmen with LJ leaving us high and dry.

LJ leaves after 3 years. Kozzy has one foot out the door and might be gone at the end of next year.

Are players not attracted to the Dees because we don't have the dollars to spend?

What is it about our club that doesn't attract players if there aren't big bucks on the table?

 

Players come and go from clubs and we have successfully targeted players we need over the past 5 years.  Losing players is part of football and will only become more frequent in the years to come. You also have to consider that we arguably have 3 of the best 5 players in the league, you can’t have everything 

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You mean apart from Lever, May, Langdon, Hibberd, Melksham, Brown and Dunstan?

That’s 6 out of our last match 22 and one of the next in line who have to come to us from other clubs. 

And 4 players (Oliver, Trac, Viney and Brayshaw) have signed ultra long deals in the face of serious bids from elsewhere in the last three years.

Bit of a stretch to say nobody wants to play for us. 


  On 15/09/2022 at 10:20, pewpewpew said:

Kozzy has one foot out the door

Says who?

Port Adelaide chasing Kozzy does not equal Kozzy wanting to leave.

Aren't we? We've had a few come in that show we are. Geelong get local Mummy's boys to return home. Mainly it takes $$$$$$ to get players to move.

  On 15/09/2022 at 10:27, ding said:

I think a permanent home might help a bit.

How many boards have talked a big game only to spectacularly fail now? Shameful.

 

Contest Finals for the next 5 years (with a few Cups along the way)

Takes time, Jeelong have been “up” for 20 years (Hideous, I know)

We've grabbed a 'significant' player in all but one trade period going as far back as Lewis and Hibberd in 2016.

The only exception is our premiership year.

We certainly aren't as active in the pre-trade noise as other clubs but I'd argue we've done just fine in the actual trade/free agency stakes.


Off field supporter cash. The Dees coteries and networks aren’t nearly on the same level as Richmond, Collingwood, Carlton, Geelong.

The salary cap and footy department cap have levelled things up a bit. Lever and May in back to back years as we were a side on the rise was as good we’ve done in decades. 

But once you have a premiership quality lair that gets paid like it there’s not a lot of room if you’re very much constrained by the cap. It’s got to be a player go out to get a player in. 

Sounds like we’re replacing Jackson with Grundy. If no one else of any note goes out then very possibly we won’t have room to bring anyone in. 

My two cents, echoes @Little Goffyover the last 5/6 years, we make very little noise, and get jobs done.

Further to that, and generally speaking - each club, each year, has players that either leave, or go.

So like Schrödinger, we are both a departure and destination club co-existing at the same time. Just like all clubs.

Ps...love it in when you post... my head always makes laser noises..

pew GIF

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Players nominating a club come after months of that club chasing them. Have we chased average players like Logue? No. Do we need another midfielder like Hooper? No

we do need a Ruck, see Grundy. Also we need a fwd but bugger all out there aside from that fool Lobe. The demons would be working in the background. More to come im sure


I think your being a bit harsh on the club. Sure it would be great if some more players were wanting to join us, but given we have a core group of players in their prime signed up on big contracts if there were more players wanting to join us more players would also need to be leaving us. The fact the club has managed its salary cap well enough to have enough money to offer LJ / Grundy a reported $700k a year is a great effort. Assuming  we can also maintain the likes of Petty and Pickett in years to come. Maintaining and improving on a Premiership list feels like it’s going to be just as hard as building the list in the first place. 

These players aren’t just nominating clubs out of the blue. There has been months of discussions behind the scenes.

Quite simply, they don’t nominate us because we aren’t interested in them and/or we don’t have cap space for them.

If we were constantly being reported as being in the hunt for players and missing out… then that would be a different story. But I haven’t seen that reported anywhere.

  On 15/09/2022 at 11:14, Bitter but optimistic said:

What the [censored] is a 'destination' club?

It’s like a destination wedding. It’s why the long term plan at Gosch’s Paddock is to put in a honeymoon suite and a swim up bar.


  On 15/09/2022 at 10:35, Undeeterred said:

You mean apart from Lever, May, Langdon, Hibberd, Melksham, Brown and Dunstan?

That’s 6 out of our last match 22 and one of the next in line who have to come to us from other clubs. 

And 4 players (Oliver, Trac, Viney and Brayshaw) have signed ultra long deals in the face of serious bids from elsewhere in the last three years.

Bit of a stretch to say nobody wants to play for us. 

We also aren't made aware of every potential as well...

The official trade period doesn't even start until October.

How about we wait and see what unfolds instead of jumping the gun?

 

Destination clubs are typically those that aren't a complete rabble and also those with lots of needs to fill and cap space.

We have a quality, well rounded list. It'll be one in, one out for the next few years at trade tune. It's boring for dees fans who enjoyed a decade of the draft and trade period being the most interesting time of the year, but it's fine by me!

  On 15/09/2022 at 11:14, Bitter but optimistic said:

What the [censored] is a 'destination' club?

The Voodoo lounge in Perf fits the criteria if you ask me. 


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