1 minute ago, DubDee said:

Alright I've gotten over the shock of Lachie being a Demon

He was a gun back in 2018, seemed to play more midfield.  Does anyone know his positional changes over the years?  moved to full time wing later?

Obviously the major risk with him is the issues since 2020 and where is head is at. But we risk almost nothing.

Excellent trading by the demons

He didn't play many games this year but last year he played heaps more up forward due to Treloar coming in, they seemed to rotate Treloar and Smith on the wings a fair bit which took Hunter out of his permanent wing role 

4 hours ago, DemonWA said:

The two doggies lads that we've picked up are almost no names to me 

It was Hunter who got them started in the GF second quarter with two goal assists.

 

We are following the Melbourne tradition of going for left footers. Schache is a lefty too!

2 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Am hearing Lachlan Hunter will be a Dee. 

Thanks for the heads up, I haven’t seen trade predictions like this since GNF was posting 

Lachie Hunter is an outstanding footballer. If he gets his behaviour sorted, it’s an enormous win. The only point I can see with Schache is as a replacement for Mitch Brown. He’s not reliable AFL standard. Back-up only. 

Incredible anyone is questioning Hunter's on field work. He's an elite winger that makes great outside positions, is clean below his knees, isn't afraid to tackle and uses the ball beautifully. 

As some posters have rightly pointed out, having Hunter on one wing and Langdon on the other is going to be a huge headache for the rest of the competition. It also makes us less predictable and as they're both high minute players, it'll mean not only more rest for our mids, but our gut running forwards too.

Finally, in having continuity in your team (ie lots of players with high TOG), the structures we're trying to implement are more consistent and predictable for team mates, which in turn allows more synergy amongst the group. We'll have Langdon, Hunter, Lever and May regularly having 95%+ TOG, and depending what we do with Grundy and Gawn, we may have relatively high TOG for both of them too.

The short of it is the decision to recruit Hunter is a no brainer in terms of on field ability.

My mother was all excited listening to trade radio, thinking one of her sons lifelong dreams had come true, when Matty Rendell was talking about Melbourne picking up a left footed wingman, with endurance who had some issues with the Pi$$, then they mentioned Lachie Hunter.

On a serious note though, I like the pick up. Plenty of upside and potential to prevent the lock downs on Langdon impacting our assets, especially given we used a pick we were not likely to use next year

Interested to see how this one shakes out given we like to clog up one of the wings.

8 minutes ago, Rivers Run Red said:

Interested to see how this one shakes out given we like to clog up one of the wings.

Hopefully it will make us less predictable.

Another excellent acquisition is Hunter and at virtually no cost.  Fills a void on the wing and Lachie at 28 has got another 3-5 years left if augers well

New start at a new club and he'll know that he will have to work hard to get into the team and then stay in the team.  His best footy is very good (B+)

Lachie could be part of a different approach to our game plan as alluded to in the post above by 'RRR'

More precise movement of the ball (?) as seen with the teams that played in the PF's ... especially with our entries into the forward line (less chaos ball?)

6 hours ago, Billy said:

Yeah l agree, but a future 3rd & 4th is a free hit l suppose

The 3rd and 4th are a free hit from which good things could happen, including 'squirm room' within trades and/or selections of the future.

As for Schache and Hunter, both have been highly rated and otherwise across their careers (experienced, as well) but time at the Doggies would have been a tough and variable road (culture) as it is a tough environment with what has appeared to be some abrasive coaching moments alongside unbalanced listings of talent and many attempts at firming both a footballing ethos and team cohesion.

The Dees have a far better culture and team spirit. Arriving at the Dees may well be a 'big break' for them both - a more focussed 'cultural shift' and as we all know, a more talented array of best 22 in which to further apply additional skilling and role plays to which they could adapt. In every regard, their arrivals at the Dees are primarily opportunities to 'orient and adapt'. They both have the essential aptitudes and experienced skills to apply and achieve within their new, broader footballing home base, so it would be terrific if such positive outcomes emerge. Given the profile of much of this trade episode, I am quite content with these two arrivals the Mighty Dees' bandwagon.

4 hours ago, Dante said:

Care to elaborate?

I keep hearing this but no reports as to what the bad behaviour is. 

Let's move on ... everyone adapts. The Ox says 'Hi!'

9 hours ago, Demon Disciple said:

@Dee Viney Intervention I’ll give you Hunter, but Schache can’t get a free even when a Brayshaw cannons into his back

Sorry Demon Disciple but we are going to have to agree to disagree on that one. I had a perfect view of that incident that you refer to from my couch in lockdown Melbourne with my beer goggles on. Correct call, play on. The beer goggles don’t lie.

Agree.    
I know I have problems 

I read demonland far too much

don’t take it seriously. But read it far too much

I've come around and will embrace Hunter wholeheartedly. As soon as a pic is taken with him in a Dees guernsey I'll update my avatar photo

I think I'm more excited about picking up Hunter than Grundy... if he plays at his best on a wing we improve our midfield depth and free up JJ 

14 minutes ago, Rednblueriseing said:

I think I'm more excited about picking up Hunter than Grundy... if he plays at his best on a wing we improve our midfield depth and free up JJ 

That’s true but it may mean he plays less.

My hope is that we can now manage our galaxy of stars better. No one should have to play through something that they shouldn’t play through.

4 hours ago, Deemania since 56 said:

The 3rd and 4th are a free hit from which good things could happen, including 'squirm room' within trades and/or selections of the future.

As for Schache and Hunter, both have been highly rated and otherwise across their careers (experienced, as well) but time at the Doggies would have been a tough and variable road (culture) as it is a tough environment with what has appeared to be some abrasive coaching moments alongside unbalanced listings of talent and many attempts at firming both a footballing ethos and team cohesion.

The Dees have a far better culture and team spirit. Arriving at the Dees may well be a 'big break' for them both - a more focussed 'cultural shift' and as we all know, a more talented array of best 22 in which to further apply additional skilling and role plays to which they could adapt. In every regard, their arrivals at the Dees are primarily opportunities to 'orient and adapt'. They both have the essential aptitudes and experienced skills to apply and achieve within their new, broader footballing home base, so it would be terrific if such positive outcomes emerge. Given the profile of much of this trade episode, I am quite content with these two arrivals the Mighty Dees' bandwagon.

Great summary on issues culture etc.

I trust dees culture absolutely to help both reach potential for us.

Dogs will be one of at least two teams that miss finals next year and the kennel under bevo won't be a happy positive environment. 

Good luck to both.

Nice work overall tim lamb and fd

Is he a quality player? Yes, can he improve our side? Yes, Can he help us win another flag? I believe yes. Back the guy in, the upside could be magical.

Posters need to remember our first premiership captain in 50 years was no clean skin.

Now he is driving a culture.

This is a great pickup.

1 hour ago, Nasher said:

We’ve invited players in with a history of off-field issues before. May (successful) and H.Bennell (not successful) are two that spring to mind. The policy seems more to be inclusive and back our environment to support players and getting the best out of them. As opposed to a blanket “no DH” policy, which doesn’t recognise that people are complex, can’t be boiled down in to a single personality trait, and that everyone has their problems.

Rocket Rod Owen, great footballer but destroyed by his previous club. You need to read his story to understand how they mishandled him and ruined his life, we tried ti fit him but it was too late.

2 minutes ago, Dante said:

Rocket Rod Owen, great footballer but destroyed by his previous club. You need to read his story to understand how they mishandled him and ruined his life, we tried ti fit him but it was too late.

Yep, I read Owen’s story, it was awful. He was failed by so many people for so many years.

Nevertheless I don’t think that’s the level of damage we’re dealing with here with Hunter, and even if it was, hopefully we’re a bit better equipped to deal with it than we were in 1991.

16 minutes ago, Dante said:

Rocket Rod Owen, great footballer but destroyed by his previous club. You need to read his story to understand how they mishandled him and ruined his life, we tried ti fit him but it was too late.

Useless and random fact here.

Tom Sparrow is currently dating Rod Owen's daughter Layla Owen.

8 hours ago, Macca said:

Another excellent acquisition is Hunter and at virtually no cost.  Fills a void on the wing and Lachie at 28 has got another 3-5 years left if augers well

New start at a new club and he'll know that he will have to work hard to get into the team and then stay in the team.  His best footy is very good (B+)

Lachie could be part of a different approach to our game plan as alluded to in the post above by 'RRR'

More precise movement of the ball (?) as seen with the teams that played in the PF's ... especially with our entries into the forward line (less chaos ball?)

The points you've made are the crux of the matter. Both Hunter and Grundy are best 22, but their impact is dependant on our game plan. Neither player would be suited to "chaos ball". 

As @rpfc noted, Hunter on the wing should allow JJ more time in the middle. Trac, Clarry and Viney need their workloads managed, because the fact that we were constantly overrun in games, is as much to do with the midfield as anywhere else.

Let's hope their acquisitions suggests a slight shift in our game plan. 

Edited October 12, 20222 yr by mo64