Simon was questioned in today's presser about 'the commentary on Daisy's commentary' (and - good on him - dismissed it eloquently and forcefully. And absolutely correctly imv - she is head and shoulders (metaphorically!) above her colleagues).

I wasn't aware of this; nor is Demonland generally, it seems. Can anyone fill us in?

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Here's something 

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/divisive-afl-commentary-debate-surrounding-daisy-pearce-reignited/news-story/640d1a94b6ee87022b4bc858b2078ffb

 

Anyway there isn't even a debate. Daisy is the best special comments person in the game right now. The article says Dermott reckons Wayne Carey is superior, I couldn't agree less. Daisy makes Carey look so B-grade it isn't funny. 

Thanks @layzie!

Rex and Dermie.

You can close the thread now, mods.

If he was asked about it, it was edited out of the uploaded video.

On content alone and not gender, I find Daisy more insightful than just about anyone. Was Carey the gun of guns, yes he was, but he is also proper FIGJAM and the hoary reminisces he offers doesn't actually give me much idea on tactics, which Daisy does offer. Daisy knows her stuff, gender has nothing to do with it. 

Just now, Nascent said:

If he was asked about it, it was edited out of the uploaded video.

Really that is super annoying, if anyone had a link to Simon's comments would deeply appreciate it.

11 minutes ago, layzie said:

Anyway there isn't even a debate. Daisy is the best special comments person in the game right now. The article says Dermott reckons Wayne Carey is superior, I couldn't agree less. Daisy makes Carey look so B-grade it isn't funny. 

He special comments aren’t great and her high pitched voice is annoying… I think Jones is right up there for special comments 

From the club this morning. 

 

Daisy is so good to listen to. Articulate, accurate and insightful. My brother-in-law can't stand her voice which I just don't get. She is the best thing to happen at the Dees for 20 years (apart from the Premiership of course), the best person to emerge out of the AFLW, and the best thing the channel 7 commentary team have done since Bruce & Dennis were together. 

I also actually like the input of W Carey. It's people like Ling, Ricciuto et al whose special comments are simply to repeat the bleeding obvious we can see on the screen ourselves. 

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really bad typing and lazy self editing

7 minutes ago, Maldonboy38 said:

Daisy is so good to listen to. Articulate, accurate and insightful. My brother-in-law can't stand her voice which I just don't get. She is the best thing to happen at the Dees for 20 years (apart from the Premiership of course), the best person to emerge out of the AFLW, and the best thing the channel 7 commentary team have done since Bruce & Dennis were together. 

I also actually like the input of W Carey. It's people like Ling, Ricciuto et al whose special comments are simply to repeat the bleeding obvious we can see on the screen ourselves. 

Luke Hodge is also a shocker - can’t put 2 words together. Nathan Buckley, I like.

6 minutes ago, bandicoot said:

He special comments aren’t great and her high pitched voice is annoying… I think Jones is right up there for special comments 

Jones is very good but his high pitched giggling can be annoying.

Daisy is a very solid special commentator.

BT is a mistake riddled commentator and it's an indictment on channel 7 that they hadn't adequately prepared a (Friday night/marquee/AFL grand final) satisfactory succession plan post Bruce and Dennis who both left a legacy as VFL/AFL football's  finest commentators of all time. 

Basically Rex Hunt had a go saying Daisy only had a job due to a gender quota. Talked up Wayne Carey as a superior commentator and that Daisy stole his spot on Friday nights due to her gender. It’s lead to a swell of toxic support online from some seriously sexist and brain dead people, if you can even call them that. 

Rex is obviously an out of touch old fool. Daisy is one of the most insightful commentators going around. She provides better insight into what’s happening in the matches than most other commentators, especially the blokes old boys club types. She understands the modern game better than players from 2-3 decades ago who spend the matches beating their chests and the best insight they can give is getting a players name correct.

You’re best off ignoring the rubbish online if you have any semblance of humanity left. Some of the stuff said about Daisy has been disgusting and shameful.

Some commentators describe whats happening but Daisy describes why it is happening.  Simply the best.

15 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Basically Rex Hunt had a go saying Daisy only had a job due to a gender quota. Talked up Wayne Carey as a superior commentator and that Daisy stole his spot on Friday nights due to her gender. It’s lead to a swell of toxic support online from some seriously sexist and brain dead people, if you can even call them that. 

Rex is obviously an out of touch old fool. Daisy is one of the most insightful commentators going around. She provides better insight into what’s happening in the matches than most other commentators, especially the blokes old boys club types. She understands the modern game better than players from 2-3 decades ago who spend the matches beating their chests and the best insight they can give is getting a players name correct.

 

That's not quiet correct. Try sticking to the facts which are on the public record.

He suggested Daisy let Carey get a word in. Then he also suggested networks were employing women on the basis of their gender not their ability.

I guess its matter of taste.  There have always been good & dreadful commentators.

I like Daisy. Rex is even worse than BT.

 

1 hour ago, layzie said:

Anyway there isn't even a debate. Daisy is the best special comments person in the game right now. The article says Dermott reckons Wayne Carey is superior, I couldn't agree less. Daisy makes Carey look so B-grade it isn't funny. 

Watched the Goodes doco on Netflix recently and Dermie said some things back then that haven't aged well. His views on Daisy are also a decade or 2 behind the times.

Goody summed it up well. 

18 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Rex is obviously an out of touch old fool.

...and Dermott is right up there with him.

Unfortunately there are a lot of people who just can't see past their prejudices (read some of the facebook comments) and actually believe Daisy has no idea.

Good on Simon for setting the record straight...she is enormous and an absolute trail blazer.

The game is the better for Daisy.

The closest you get between Carey and Daisy is that they've both had twins.

Listening to Rex on the radio was shocking, you’d have no idea about the score or even who had the ball, was all about bluster, BS, and  nicknames. It was terrible when no other stations were calling and you had to listen to him.

BT is the modern day equivalent, really embarrassingly bad, but some people must like him, and it takes all types.

Carey & Dermie are very good when talking about playing as a forward, but don’t provide much insight on current day strategy.

Daisy is a star, articulate, explains what’s happening and why. This would be to complex for Rex to understand and why he doesn’t like her! If she added in an Abletttttttt or Yibbydeeeyabbydee, he would appreciate her more!

Daisy is very easy to listen to and genuinely insightful.
Jones is just not suitable for it, he's not very articulate and is not easy to listen to in longer spats. 
Dermott is painstakingly horrible and is one of few commentators that I actively mute/don't listen to his commentating.
Carey is decent, speaks well enough and conveys his points.

Other ones who have recently stepped into the role;

Dangerfield is not great and I would tend to tune out/mute in longer parts.
Jack Riewoldt can't articulate that well (same as Jones) and doesn't contribute anything super substantial.   

Just when you think we are getting somewhere as a society, I read the hundreds of comments on these articles online. So disgusting. Bagging Daisy and Kelli - stay out of our game etc. I won’t repeat the rest of the tripe. 

Why is she being hired by the Cats then you morons?!

Daisy is a gun and dead set legend

Daisy is OK.  Doesn't do a lot for me, but there are plenty worse.  She does have some good insight.  She wasn't selected on merit, more-so her sex, but it is what it is and she's shown enough in the role to suggest she's not misplaced. 

Garry Lyon annoys me the most, because he never shuts up.  He must be paid by the word.  He also repeats the same point so many times.  I have to mute it.

I'm also not mad on Nathan Jones.  But he'll get better.  It would be daunting in your first year.  With experience I'm sure he won't sound so subservient.

Kelli Underwood is easily the worst caller I've ever heard.  The voice and hackneyed cliches are the pits.  Thankfully, she gets the graveyard timeslot.  Once again, she's not calling based on merit.

Oh for meritocracy.  But it's not the world we live in.

Clearly ^^^ dubdee will have a conniption at my comments.  C'est la vie.

Blame the subeditor.

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/07/20/brereton-sets-the-record-straight-over-pearce-commentary-comments

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I agree that Kelli is terrible. She chooses to screech in Strine, one cliche after another. On the other hand, I have previously started to separate threads, at times, about how good Daisy is. I am still cross at the club for letting her go to Geelong as a coach when they should have kept her here.

 

Rex Hunt is an old fool, was a terrible commentator who was unlistenable, and I have always assumed his name is rhyming slang.

36 minutes ago, Cranky Franky said:

That's not quiet correct. Try sticking to the facts which are on the public record.

He suggested Daisy let Carey get a word in. Then he also suggested networks were employing women on the basis of their gender not their ability.

I guess its matter of taste.  There have always been good & dreadful commentators.

I like Daisy. Rex is even worse than BT.

Why would he suggest that Daisey let Carey get a word in when they aren't on at the same time.

He either hasn't listened to the telecast or is saying stuff, which is critical of Daisy, just to make his comment sound valid when it is a fabrication.

Edited July 20, 20222 yr by Lucifers Hero