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On 6/15/2021 at 7:34 PM, DeeZone said:

Come on Coaches get your thinking caps on you need to sort this well before finals.

Excellent point.  We need to know what our forward setup is but I think even the coaches aren't sure yet

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    On 6/16/2021 at 11:01 AM, Pennant St Dee said:

    Go back to the mobile fwd line, keep the pressure up and create turnovers and scores like earlier in the season.

    Out: Weid, Sparrow

    In: Viney, Melksham 

    B:        Lever          Petty       Hibberd

    HB:    Hunt.            May         Salem

    C.       Langdon     Oliver       Brayshaw

    HF.     Pickett.      Tmac.       Nibbler

    F.       Spargo.      Jackson    Fritsch

    R. Gawn, Trac, Oliver

    I/C Jordon, Harmes, Rivers, Melksham

    Sub: Sparrow/Chandler

    Top post.

    Is the Match Cttee looking for a solution to a problem that doesn't exist?

    i.e We have 3 tall forwards , but one is the combination of 2 players resting in the forward half of Gawn and the now excellent Jackson.

    The solution to getting BBB and having weid is just that they are backup. Nothing more , esp in Weid's case.

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    The Weid should have been dropped 2 weeks ago . M.Brown would have been a better option , he could of played back with Petty going forward . B.Brown needs game time in the 2nds , I would give him ruck time to boost his confidence and fitness.

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    Will be very interested to see how BB goes in Saturdays scratch match if anyone is able to give a report.

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    Lets assume SW is a bust and BB is not physically ready to go now or maybe ever

    What's is the clubs back up plan??

    We have Mitch Brown !  Maybe play Max forward? Rob the back line and try Petty forward

    Most on here don't see Jackson as a forward?

    So what's the clubs' plan? Were there any likely KPFs in the midseason draft?

     


    57 minutes ago, Kent said:

    Lets assume SW is a bust and BB is not physically ready to go now or maybe ever

    What's is the clubs back up plan??

    We have Mitch Brown !  Maybe play Max forward? Rob the back line and try Petty forward

    Most on here don't see Jackson as a forward?

    So what's the clubs' plan? Were there any likely KPFs in the midseason draft?

     

    Crafty Mitch Brown, a worthy and willing "pull in case of emergency"

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    58 minutes ago, Kent said:

    Lets assume SW is a bust and BB is not physically ready to go now or maybe ever

    What's is the clubs back up plan??

    We have Mitch Brown !  Maybe play Max forward? Rob the back line and try Petty forward

    Most on here don't see Jackson as a forward?

    So what's the clubs' plan? Were there any likely KPFs in the midseason draft?

     

    Despite Tmac having a shocker against the pies we would be lucky to be in the eight without him.

    I was so excited about the ppwer of our forward line. With Bbb and Weideman kicking bags in the vfl a month or so ago I was thinking we may have the best fwd line in the comp. My oh my.

    I cant see Weideman being a part of it now suffice to say zero kicks against a bottom team is reason why. Cant say he hasnt had chances.

    So we are pinning our hopes on one of the Browns. Bbb has a great history so if he can do a Tmac we will be ok.

    As for Jackson, I think he is starting to show that he is a good forward. When he plays in the ruck we always need Max to move up fwd.

    Out: Petty

    In: Melksham 

    Weideman moves to the backline, our forward line works better without BBB and Weideman. 

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    On 6/14/2021 at 7:34 PM, DeeSpencer said:

    In: Viney
    Out: Weid

    Under consideration: Brayshaw for Chandler or Jones.

    Our forward line was better with the 1 tall forward and Jackson/Fritsch. Viney back means more Harmes and Petracca forward as well.

    Brayshaw is so pitiful. Just miles off his man all game. Don't tell me it's structure either because JJ and Langdon manage to get on theirs (less so this week).  If a half back got caught up the ground he made no effort to cover back for them. His ball use is awful. 

     

    He went at 80%

    30 minutes ago, Roost it far said:

    Out: Petty

    In: Melksham 

    Weideman moves to the backline, our forward line works better without BBB and Weideman. 

    Absolutely no chance of Petty going out and Weid replacing him in the back 6 

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    22 minutes ago, Sydee said:

    Absolutely no chance of Petty going out and Weid replacing him in the back 6 

    Agreed. We are not a bottom 4 side experimenting during a rebuild for goodness sake.

    A PREMIERSHIP is at stake. We won't make any structural changes to the side unless forced to due to injury. It is like for like changes only. Hence if Weideman is out, we either bring in one of the Browns, or revert back to a smaller mobile forwardline like we had in the first 6 rounds. 

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    The idea of playing Weid back without experience is not the way to go. When he returned to footy this season he should have played in the back line(for Casey). We have the Browns , J.Smith and Daw who all can play forward. 

    Everyone dismisses Mitch Brown, but I've never seen a game where he didn't give it his all.

    He may not get on the end of it each week but he works bloody hard trying to, I think there is a role for him in the latter half of the season in lieu of BB and Weid.

    If Joel Smith or Majak are playing off no games, we are in real strife

    1 hour ago, BW511 said:

    Everyone dismisses Mitch Brown, but I've never seen a game where he didn't give it his all.

    He may not get on the end of it each week but he works bloody hard trying to, I think there is a role for him in the latter half of the season in lieu of BB and Weid.

    If Joel Smith or Majak are playing off no games, we are in real strife

    Round 1 last year against the Eagles- uncompetitive

    Round 15 v Sydney last year - uncompetitive
    The first 3 quarters the week before against St Kilda before a strong last quarter - as above

    The first 3 quarters against Hawthorn before we opened it up late - the same

    He's a good lead up player with nice skills, but he offers very little in the contest - he doesn't jump or extent his arms, and almost nothing defensively. 

    He can be a back up for Fritsch or Tommy Mc but either we get one of the big boys up and going or we go smaller I think.

     

     

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    20 minutes ago, adonski said:

    Bring in BB or take him out the back and shoot him

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    1 hour ago, BW511 said:

    Everyone dismisses Mitch Brown, but I've never seen a game where he didn't give it his all.

    He may not get on the end of it each week but he works bloody hard trying to, I think there is a role for him in the latter half of the season in lieu of BB and Weid.

    If Joel Smith or Majak are playing off no games, we are in real strife

    And how many clubs has he played for? So let's not get excited about him.

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    The ins and outs are very easy.

    Viney for Sparrow 

    (Melksham for Sparrow if Viney not ready yet.)

    One of the Browns for Mr 4 handballs.

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    On 6/16/2021 at 10:54 PM, D4Life said:

    While dropping Weid is the right thing to do, there are a few things worth remembering:

    - his preseason was heavily interrupted

    - last year he put in half a dozen really solid games working in conjunction with Jackson in the forward line, if he had of improved off the back of that batch of games, he’d hold his place this year

    - TMac was poor 2019& 2020, same as Harmes, so I wouldn’t write off Weideman, he needs a very good preseason then let’s see what he can do in 2022!

    in the backline. its an obvious option for him. worth trialling.


    5 hours ago, Roost it far said:

    Out: Petty

    In: Melksham 

    Weideman moves to the backline, our forward line works better without BBB and Weideman. 

    Wouldn't think there is a chance of that happening.

    17 hours ago, nacnud said:

    Good point mate, just ask Tom Hickey.

    Oh wait…

    Big difference between a ruckman and a forward line player.

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    22 hours ago, Roost it far said:

    Out: Petty

    In: Melksham 

    Weideman moves to the backline, our forward line works better without BBB and Weideman. 

    I agree with Weid to the backline, but after he adjusts to it at Casey for a bit.

    On 6/18/2021 at 8:34 AM, Kent said:

    Lets assume SW is a bust and BB is not physically ready to go now or maybe ever

    What's is the clubs back up plan??

    We have Mitch Brown !  Maybe play Max forward? Rob the back line and try Petty forward

    Most on here don't see Jackson as a forward?

    So what's the clubs' plan? Were there any likely KPFs in the midseason draft?

     

    I understand the thinking behind a move to defence but we have Tomlinson to come back remember so we don’t have the list spot anyways. We need a tall forward not another tall defender. And moving Petty forward now sends a pretty clear message to the Weid that his days as a KPF at the Dees are over.

    I can’t see it happening. Best he sticks to being a forward and who knows, with a full preseason under his belt, he might turn it around and show some output and consistency next season.


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