one_demon 826 Posted May 7, 2021 Posted May 7, 2021 Isn't Weideman a better option than Melksham? Am I missing something? 3 Quote
John Crow Batty 8,892 Posted May 7, 2021 Posted May 7, 2021 (edited) Melksham is getting the same Fritsch hate treatment from not long ago when he wasn’t kicking goals. Melksham is easily capable of kicking 3-4 goals and setting up the same for others. Does far more than Jones could in the forward line. Edited May 7, 2021 by John Crow Batty 3 Quote
Dee Zephyr 19,311 Posted May 7, 2021 Posted May 7, 2021 Probably in the minority but not perturbed. Weird to feel like this when it comes to changes as the season goes on. Quote
picket fence 18,186 Posted May 7, 2021 Posted May 7, 2021 38 minutes ago, praha said: Melksham brings strong delivery inside 50 and should get better with more games. But he's on thin ice. Harmes I suspect is being brought in as a defensive midfielder to roam wing and put pressure on their transition out of defense which is generally quite strong and could be damaging on the MCG where they normally play well (and destroyed Richmond doing just that). Suspect Harmes will play a Houli-esque role as a small cut-off. Looking forward to him grabbing a few intercept marks across half back and proving many here wrong. I'm okay with these changes. End of the day Melksham provides more scoreboard pressure than Jones so he has an opportunity to make a difference here. He certainly struggled last week but his delivery was good and he got hs going in the 3rd quarter. If 1 Quarter efforts are keeping Melksham in the side then if we advance far into finals then, we just cannot afford to play him! At any cost! Quote
Tarax Club 4,189 Posted May 7, 2021 Posted May 7, 2021 (edited) Apparently no petty squabbles have broken out or milk shakes harmes in the production of this video. Edited May 7, 2021 by Tarax Club brevity 2 1 Quote
Mickey 4,777 Posted May 7, 2021 Posted May 7, 2021 Reckon Sparrow is stiff, obvious replacement for Viney. Harmes has a lot of work to do to justify his spot in the side, experience or not 2 Quote
Mel Bourne 4,541 Posted May 7, 2021 Posted May 7, 2021 Well, I just hope everyone plays well. Even those two seemingly really unpopular guys. Quote
Ham 741 Posted May 7, 2021 Posted May 7, 2021 24 minutes ago, titan_uranus said: I’m really disappointed Sparrow’s missed out to Harmes. Sparrow’s 2021 form exceeds anything we’ve seen from Harmes since 2018. Weid is being made to bide his time until a spot opens, IMO Harmes should have too. You mean in 2019 when everyone played like [censored] and 2020 when he was played in the wrong position? Quote
Ollie fan 3,671 Posted May 7, 2021 Posted May 7, 2021 Harms is obviously like for like with Bonnie cash of course, not as good but approve on top 23 player. Harmes is obviously like for like with Viney - of course, not as good but a proven top 22 player. I, for one, I’m not going to argue against the coaches at the moment given their record this season. Quote
Superunknown 4,246 Posted May 7, 2021 Posted May 7, 2021 No Heeney eh? I have swans line at +24.5 in the multis. Might need to rethink (buddy proceeds to kick 0 as compensation ) Quote
ucanchoose 1,816 Posted May 7, 2021 Posted May 7, 2021 I love these people that hate Melksham..... It's a riot. 69% game time for 17 Possessions, 6 marks and 18 pressure acts. Sure he makes the odd mistake but lots of people have blinkers on 17 Quote
bobby1554 1,275 Posted May 7, 2021 Posted May 7, 2021 16 minutes ago, one_demon said: Isn't Weideman a better option than Melksham? Am I missing something? Totally different players one_demon. We already have two tall forward options, plus Bayley. Melksham can rotate through the middle. Whether he is the best option for that is debatable. Quote
picket fence 18,186 Posted May 7, 2021 Posted May 7, 2021 27 minutes ago, demonstone said: Really? People are still getting sucked in by this old chestnut? #Demonmyths. As if the Match Selection Committee would say "Well we think Melksham isn't doing enough and he should be dropped for this match, but seeing as he's Goody's 'best mate' he gets another go". Come on now. Melbourne Football Club isn't run by a bunch of amateurs these days nor does the Coach have sole discretion on who is in or out of the team. I'm not saying Melksham deserves to stay in but I defer to the MSC's superior wisdom and knowledge. Well, I will back Demonlanders over the Selectors ANY DAY!! 1 Quote
picket fence 18,186 Posted May 7, 2021 Posted May 7, 2021 (edited) How many tackles,for Melksham? Edited May 7, 2021 by picket fence Quote
Fat Tony 5,337 Posted May 7, 2021 Posted May 7, 2021 33 minutes ago, titan_uranus said: I’m really disappointed Sparrow’s missed out to Harmes. Sparrow’s 2021 form exceeds anything we’ve seen from Harmes since 2018. Weid is being made to bide his time until a spot opens, IMO Harmes should have too. Sparrow's best game ever is 17 possessions and he had just 4 in his last game. Harmes had 20 in Round 1 (with a broken wrist) and averaged 24.5 in 2019. Possessions aren't everything I know, but they are not nothing. Sparrow had a good game last week against witches hats but lets not go overboard about his year. 5 Quote
Engorged Onion 10,226 Posted May 7, 2021 Posted May 7, 2021 21 minutes ago, binman said: Surprised harmes got the nod ahead of number 32. I wonder if they will run him as a hard tag on Kennedy, their best mid and even at his stage of his career arguably their most important player. Shut him down and they will really struggle getting it out to their outside players. Which will really help to negate their strengths and desired game plan. Not surprised melksham stays in. Laid 3 tackles last week and his pressure was better. And is arguably our most damaging kick. 100% Harmes is in for a specific shut down job. It's the only logical conclusion looking from the outside in. A hardened body to compete with Kennedy. If Viney was fit, he would be 'languishing' in the two's. 1 Quote
Dockett 32 1,239 Posted May 7, 2021 Posted May 7, 2021 Kind of like selection in a way, although agree Sparrow is the future and stiff. Would have been my preference (Maybe the Wied is stiff too.) But ex Tomlinson, the selection committee had just about the strongest list possible to pick from. How things have changed. We should win this, notwithstanding some good “ins”for the Swans . For my money Harmes and Melksham are very questionable selections and clearly accountable as is the selection committee. Not much room to hide here. 1 Quote
ucanchoose 1,816 Posted May 7, 2021 Posted May 7, 2021 1 minute ago, picket fence said: How many tackles,for Melksham? Three, which was more that Pickett 1 Quote
dworship 3,343 Posted May 7, 2021 Posted May 7, 2021 38 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said: It's about rewarding form. Great opportunity for Sparrow for more midfield minutes now that Viney is out. Harmes was selfish and lazy against North. Jones out and Melksham out is laughable. But hey I suppose Goodein has to get his mate to 200. Sorry Dazzle but I've seen Harmes beaten/ off the pace but I think it's very disrespectful to call him selfish and lazy. I don't think that's in his DNA. 1 Quote
Chook 15,069 Posted May 7, 2021 Posted May 7, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jaded said: Yeah look I feel for Sparrow. But maybe they want the experience of Harmes against a fairly robust experienced midfield. Perhaps he will do a job on Kennedy. Baker must be the medical sub. Melksham must do something the coaches really rate. I don’t see it. But we are 7-0 so I can’t say they don’t know what they’re doing. Melksham's job should be to get the ball, then wheel and hit Ben Brown on the anywhere from waist to 3 feet above his head. If he does that even 2-3 times a week he's done the job IMO. Edited May 7, 2021 by Chook 2 Quote
The heart beats true 18,201 Posted May 7, 2021 Posted May 7, 2021 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Demons11 said: Sparrow has not shown enough when playing seniors to be picked above Harmes. Harmes offer so much more as on baller / tagged / forward. I agree. I feel like some on Demonland whip themselves into a frenzy about a player out of the side. For a while it was Vandenberg when he was injured, then over preseason everyone was Rosman crazy, and now Sparrow is the gun. His senior games have been less than average. He needs to string together more consistent games in the VFL, and then show much more at senior level. Edited May 7, 2021 by The heart beats true 2 Quote
Nasher 33,686 Posted May 7, 2021 Posted May 7, 2021 Good to see the Melksham haters out in force. The most obvious case of groupthink I’ve seen on this forum I reckon. He’s the best deliverer of the ball in to the 50 we have. For the same reason you all argued (rightfully) with me until you went blue that Spargo’s job isn’t about getting heaps of the ball, Melksham’s job isn’t to lay stacks of tackles. It’s to link up at half forward, win contests when needed and make sure we get meaningful delivery. Many seem to be assessing Melksham’s performance against Spargo’s role. 7 1 1 Quote
Nasher 33,686 Posted May 7, 2021 Posted May 7, 2021 24 minutes ago, ucanchoose said: Three, which was more that Pickett T.McDonald - 1 tackle B.Fritsch - 1 tackle M.Hibberd - 0 tackles MUST BE GOODIES BESTIES IF NOT DROPPED IMMEDIATELY 5 2 1 1 Quote
Caligula's cohort 1,014 Posted May 7, 2021 Posted May 7, 2021 I would like to see Harmes do a tagging job on Parker. By all reports, Parker has been their most damaging midfielder this year. Stop him and we'll go along way in getting first touch from clearances. 1 1 Quote
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