Jump to content
View in the app

A better way to browse. Learn more.

Demonland

A full-screen app on your home screen with push notifications, badges and more.

To install this app on iOS and iPadOS
  1. Tap the Share icon in Safari
  2. Scroll the menu and tap Add to Home Screen.
  3. Tap Add in the top-right corner.
To install this app on Android
  1. Tap the 3-dot menu (⋮) in the top-right corner of the browser.
  2. Tap Add to Home screen or Install app.
  3. Confirm by tapping Install.

Featured Replies

Posted

I can't find this covered elsewhere, but Robbo has his annual top 50 published in today's Herald Sun. We need a thread just so we can criticise his choices.

I haven't got the list in front of me, but there are 4 Demons: Gawn, Petracca, Oliver and May. I think Gawn and Petracca are both in the top 10, Oliver is (I think) number 33 and May is in the forties.

Congratulations to them.

And may the criticism of Robbo begin...

Mark Robinson’s 2021 pre-season top 50:
    1.    Dustin Martin (Richmond)
    2.    Patrick Dangerfield (Geelong)
    3.    Nat Fyfe (Fremantle)
    4.    Lachie Neale (Brisbane)
    5.    Marcus Bontempelli (Western Bulldogs)
    6.    Christian Petracca (Melbourne)
    7.    Patrick Cripps (Carlton)
    8.    Tom Hawkins (Geelong)
    9.    Nic Naitanui (West Coast)
    10.    Max Gawn (Melbourne)
    11.    Liam Ryan (West Coast)
    12.    Brodie Grundy (Collingwood)
    13.    Scott Pendlebury (Collingwood)
    14.    Jack Macrae (Western Bulldogs)
    15.    Harris Andrews (Brisbane)
    16.    Lachie Whitfield (Greater Western Sydney)
    17.    Jack Steele (St Kilda)
    18.    Ollie Wines (Port Adelaide)
    19.    Jordan De Goey (Collingwood)
    20.    Travis Boak (Port Adelaide)
    21.    Dylan Grimes (Richmond)
    22.    Matt Rowell (Gold Coast)
    23.    Hugh McCluggage (Brisbane)
    24.    Luke Ryan (Fremantle)
    25.    Nick Vlastuin (Richmond)
    26.    Joe Daniher (Brisbane)
    27.    Jeremy McGovern (West Coast)
    28.    Jeremy Cameron (Geelong)
    29.    Darcy Moore (Collingwood)
    30.    Toby Greene (Greater Western Sydney)
    31.    Luke Shuey (West Coast)
    32.    Tom Mitchell (Hawthorn)
    33.    Clayton Oliver (Melbourne)
    34.    Michael Walters (Fremantle)
    35.    Jayden Short (Richmond)
    36.    Caleb Daniel (Western Bulldogs)
    37.    Luke Parker (Sydney)
    38.    Tom J. Lynch (Richmond)
    39.    Shai Bolton (Richmond)
    40.    Nick Haynes (Greater Western Sydney)
    41.    Jake Lloyd (Sydney)
    42.    Mitch Duncan (Geelong)
    43.    Zach Merrett (Essendon)
    44.    Taylor Adams (Collingwood)
    45.    Steven May (Melbourne)
    46.    Jacob Weitering (Carlton)
    47.    Sam Walsh (Carlton)
    48.    Jordan Ridley (Essendon)
    49.    Bailey Smith (Western Bulldogs)
    50.    Jy Simpkin (North Melbourne)

 
 

To be brutally honest I cannot think of 32 Players that are better than Clarry, Clayton Oliver please make Robbo eat his words.!!!!!!!!!


Trac should be top 3. Gawn around 7th

About to do a top 50 list of footy journalists. Robbo's ranking......sorry slobbo didn't make it. Blithering drunks .. numero uno.

 

Mark Robinson’s 2021 pre-season top 50:

1. Dustin Martin (Richmond)
2. Patrick Dangerfield (Geelong)
3. Nat Fyfe (Fremantle)
4. Lachie Neale (Brisbane)
5. Marcus Bontempelli (Western Bulldogs)
6. Christian Petracca (Melbourne)
7. Patrick Cripps (Carlton)
8. Tom Hawkins (Geelong)
9. Nic Naitanui (West Coast)
10. Max Gawn (Melbourne)
11. Liam Ryan (West Coast)
12. Brodie Grundy (Collingwood)
13. Scott Pendlebury (Collingwood)
14. Jack Macrae (Western Bulldogs)
15. Harris Andrews (Brisbane)
16. Lachie Whitfield (Greater Western Sydney)
17. Jack Steele (St Kilda)
18. Ollie Wines (Port Adelaide)
19. Jordan De Goey (Collingwood)
20. Travis Boak (Port Adelaide)
21. Dylan Grimes (Richmond)
22. Matt Rowell (Gold Coast)
23. Hugh McCluggage (Brisbane)
24. Luke Ryan (Fremantle)
25. Nick Vlastuin (Richmond)
26. Joe Daniher (Brisbane)
27. Jeremy McGovern (West Coast)
28. Jeremy Cameron (Geelong)
29. Darcy Moore (Collingwood)
30. Toby Greene (Greater Western Sydney)
31. Luke Shuey (West Coast)
32. Tom Mitchell (Hawthorn)
33. Clayton Oliver (Melbourne)
34. Michael Walters (Fremantle)
35. Jayden Short (Richmond)
36. Caleb Daniel (Western Bulldogs)
37. Luke Parker (Sydney)
38. Tom J. Lynch (Richmond)
39. Shai Bolton (Richmond)
40. Nick Haynes (Greater Western Sydney)
41. Jake Lloyd (Sydney)
42. Mitch Duncan (Geelong)
43. Zach Merrett (Essendon)
44. Taylor Adams (Collingwood)
45. Steven May (Melbourne)
46. Jacob Weitering (Carlton)
47. Sam Walsh (Carlton)
48. Jordan Ridley (Essendon)
49. Bailey Smith (Western Bulldogs)
50. Jy Simpkin (North Melbourne)

https://www.zerohanger.com/mark-robinson-reveals-his-top-50-for-2021-afl-80545/

 


19 hours ago, Dr.D said:

33 is too low for Oliver in my eyes. 

 

49 minutes ago, DeeZone said:

To be brutally honest I cannot think of 32 Players that are better than Clarry, Clayton Oliver please make Robbo eat his words.!!!!!!!!!

Don't agree with you a lot 'Dr' but definitely with you here.

18 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

Mark Robinson’s 2021 pre-season top 50:

1. Dustin Martin (Richmond)
2. Patrick Dangerfield (Geelong)
3. Nat Fyfe (Fremantle)
4. Lachie Neale (Brisbane)
5. Marcus Bontempelli (Western Bulldogs)
6. Christian Petracca (Melbourne)
7. Patrick Cripps (Carlton)
8. Tom Hawkins (Geelong)
9. Nic Naitanui (West Coast)
10. Max Gawn (Melbourne)
11. Liam Ryan (West Coast)
12. Brodie Grundy (Collingwood)
13. Scott Pendlebury (Collingwood)
14. Jack Macrae (Western Bulldogs)
15. Harris Andrews (Brisbane)
16. Lachie Whitfield (Greater Western Sydney)
17. Jack Steele (St Kilda)
18. Ollie Wines (Port Adelaide)
19. Jordan De Goey (Collingwood)
20. Travis Boak (Port Adelaide)
21. Dylan Grimes (Richmond)
22. Matt Rowell (Gold Coast)
23. Hugh McCluggage (Brisbane)
24. Luke Ryan (Fremantle)
25. Nick Vlastuin (Richmond)
26. Joe Daniher (Brisbane)
27. Jeremy McGovern (West Coast)
28. Jeremy Cameron (Geelong)
29. Darcy Moore (Collingwood)
30. Toby Greene (Greater Western Sydney)
31. Luke Shuey (West Coast)
32. Tom Mitchell (Hawthorn)
33. Clayton Oliver (Melbourne)
34. Michael Walters (Fremantle)
35. Jayden Short (Richmond)
36. Caleb Daniel (Western Bulldogs)
37. Luke Parker (Sydney)
38. Tom J. Lynch (Richmond)
39. Shai Bolton (Richmond)
40. Nick Haynes (Greater Western Sydney)
41. Jake Lloyd (Sydney)
42. Mitch Duncan (Geelong)
43. Zach Merrett (Essendon)
44. Taylor Adams (Collingwood)
45. Steven May (Melbourne)
46. Jacob Weitering (Carlton)
47. Sam Walsh (Carlton)
48. Jordan Ridley (Essendon)
49. Bailey Smith (Western Bulldogs)
50. Jy Simpkin (North Melbourne)

https://www.zerohanger.com/mark-robinson-reveals-his-top-50-for-2021-afl-80545/

 

 

Cripps at 7 and Oliver at 33

Umm ok Robbo....   wait it gets worse, he has Liam Ryan at 11

Edited by Pickett2Jackson

Joe Daniher at 26 - wow Slobbo really has jumped the tracks.

 

1 hour ago, Pickett2Jackson said:

Can someone post the top 50 so I can laugh at Slobbo

I dont read the Hun and Im not subscribing to their website to help fund his liquid lunches

To be honest - this surprised me.


Oliver was lucky to be top 50 based on last year, but I wouldn’t swap him for any midfielder outside the top 10.

Andrews, McGovern, Moore and May all too low based on last year.
 

Liam Ryan too high but I like him top 30, he’s freakish and well rounded.

Overall it’s a pretty solid list. 

4 minutes ago, Happy Jack said:

Joe Daniher at 26 - wow Slobbo really has jumped the tracks.

 

 

2 minutes ago, reynolds46 said:

To have joe Daniher in a list when he has hardly played a game in 3 years is farcical 

Not really. He’s a top 10 talent just waiting to get a good run at it and is at the club with the best recent history. Add in some practice match form and you couldn’t leave him out of the top 50 projections 

1 hour ago, DeeZone said:

To be brutally honest I cannot think of 32 Players that are better than Clarry, Clayton Oliver please make Robbo eat his words.!!!!!!!!!

True top 6 players in the game at present no doubt in my mind!

1 minute ago, DeeSpencer said:

Oliver was lucky to be top 50 based on last year, but I wouldn’t swap him for any midfielder outside the top 10.

Andrews, McGovern, Moore and May all too low based on last year.
 

Liam Ryan too high but I like him top 30, he’s freakish and well rounded.

Overall it’s a pretty solid list. 

 

If he can hold onto his 'better habits' version and use space from stoppages a bit smarter to get more effective clearances, that puts him in the absolute top bracket of midfielders.  Just need a bit more of what was in the 'video of the week' from the practice match! :lol:

Either way, Oliver easily led the competition for clearances last year. He is surely in the same mix as Cripps, Macrae, Steele, Wines and Boak.

 

Rowell at 22 after he’s played 3 games.

Daniher at 26 when he doesn’t get on the park and hasn’t impacted a game for 3-4 years.

Clarry at 33 after he’s played 100 games at possibly the highest quality first 100 games ever.

Slobbo needs to lay off the [censored]!


i was going to bag robbo's list mercilessly on so many fronts

......but then i thought who gives a flying f what robbo thinks. in fact "robbo thinks" is an oxymoron

Tom Hawkins at no8. LMAO

12 minutes ago, Lord Travis said:

Rowell at 22 after he’s played 3 games.

Daniher at 26 when he doesn’t get on the park and hasn’t impacted a game for 3-4 years.

Clarry at 33 after he’s played 100 games at possibly the highest quality first 100 games ever.

Slobbo needs to lay off the [censored]!

Agree, Claz at 33 is underrating him.  But a lot of experts seem to have Clarry blinkers.

Have to say the hype around Rowell is insane.  He's clearly extremely talented & the potential is big but as of March 2021 he's played exactly THREE senior games and has had a serious injury.  The media need to give these kids some time to breathe. 

 

More like the Bruce- o - meter rankings. How spehhshallll they are. 

robbo seems to apply different metrics to different players- past, present and potential performance without any consistency.  He is a [censored] anyway.

I remember when I was excited when we had ONE in the top 50. Re Oliver, when he's BOG in a winning final watch everyones eyes open. Belongs more in the top 20 atm and soon to be top 5- 10. 


Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

Featured Content

  • AFLW REPORT: Port Adelaide

    Well, that was a shock. The Demons 4-game unbeaten run came to a grinding halt in a tense, scrappy affair at the sunny, windy Alberton Oval, with the Power holding on for a 2-point win. The Dees had their chances—plenty of them—but couldn't convert when it mattered most. Port’s tackling pressure rattled the Dees, triggering a fumble frenzy and surprising lack of composure from seasoned players.

      • Thanks
    • 0 replies
  • Welcome to Demonland: Steven King

    The Melbourne Football Club has selected a new coach for the 2026 season appointing Geelong Football Club assistant coach Steven King to the head role.

      • Shocked
      • Thumb Down
      • Clap
      • Haha
      • Love
      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 899 replies
  • AFLW PREVIEW: Port Adelaide

    The undefeated Demons venture across the continent to the spiritual home of the Port Adelaide Football Club on Saturday afternoon for the inaugural match for premiership points between these long-historied clubs. Alberton Oval will however, be a ground familiar to our players following a practice match there last year. We lost both the game and Liv Purcell, who missed 7 home and away matches after suffering facial fractures in the dying moments of the game.

      • Love
      • Thanks
    • 1 reply
  • AFLW REPORT: Richmond

    A glorious sunny afternoon with a typically strong Casey Fields breeze favouring the city end greeted this round four clash of the undefeated Narrm against the winless Tigers. Pre-match, the teams entered the ground through the Deearmy’s inclusive banner—"Narrm Football Weaving Communities Together and then Warumungu/Yawuru woman and Fox Boundary Rider, Megan Waters, gave the official acknowledgement of country. Any concerns that Collingwood’s strategy of last week to discombobulate the Dees would be replicated by Ryan Ferguson and his Tigers evaporated in the second quarter when Richmond failed to use the wind advantage and Narrm scored three unanswered goals. 

      • Clap
      • Love
      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 4 replies
  • CASEY: Frankston

    The late-season run of Casey wins was broken in their first semifinal against Frankston in a heartbreaking end at Kinetic Stadium on Saturday night that in many respects reflected their entire season. When they were bad, they committed all of the football transgressions, including poor disposal, indiscipline, an inability to exert pressure, and some terrible decision-making, as exemplified by the period in the game when they conceded nine unanswered goals from early in the second quarter until halfway through the third term. You rarely win when you do this.

      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 0 replies
  • AFLW PREVIEW: Richmond

    Round four kicks off early Saturday afternoon at Casey Fields, as the mighty Narrm host the winless Richmond Tigers in the second week of Indigenous Round celebrations. With ideal footy conditions forecast—20 degrees, overcast skies, and a gentle breeze — expect a fast-paced contest. Narrm enters with momentum and a dangerous forward line, while Richmond is still searching for its first win. With key injuries on both sides and pride on the line, this clash promises plenty.

      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 3 replies

Configure browser push notifications

Chrome (Android)
  1. Tap the lock icon next to the address bar.
  2. Tap Permissions → Notifications.
  3. Adjust your preference.
Chrome (Desktop)
  1. Click the padlock icon in the address bar.
  2. Select Site settings.
  3. Find Notifications and adjust your preference.