Farewell Braydon Preuss

[buck_nekkid 5,858]

Reported on AFL.com we would be open to enquiries re Braydon.

lots of clubs looking for a ruckman.  
 

what is he worth?

does it leave us without enough ruck depth?

[Lucifers Hero 39,797]

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"Melbourne is understood to be open to enquiries about a possible trade for the 25-year-old".

Can understand that the clubs position.

Preuss will get regular games at another club.

Not sure who will cover for Max if he gets injured.

Bradke and Jackson don't look ready.  TMac is likely gone.  We need Weideman in the fwd line.

Oh well, interesting times.

[Wiseblood 24,637]

22 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

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"Melbourne is understood to be open to enquiries about a possible trade for the 25-year-old".

Can understand that the clubs position.

Preuss will get regular games at another club.

Not sure who will cover for Max if he gets injured.

Bradke and Jackson don't look ready.  TMac is likely gone.  We need Weideman in the fwd line.

Oh well, interesting times.

Could end up being a great outcome for the club.

Ruck men like Preuss can often flourish at a new club where he can get some opportunities, so hopefully that allows us to potentially secure something decent, whether it be picks or a player, in return.

I agree that it does leave us open re: support for Max, but the club hold all the cards here.  With Preuss under contract these other clubs can either pay up or we'll hold on to him.  Win/win in my book.

[poita 3,902]

I wouldn't be upset if Preuss left but we need (a) to get something decent in return and (b) another ready made backup ruckman.

I can't see Bradtke making it, even if he is still on the list next year and I doubt that Jackson has the size to be anything more than a part time option. Gawn's age and injury history make a genuine backup essential.

[roy11 3,853]

Preuss would be nice cover, but also could be a good trade for us. Much better currency than Tyson would have had.

as @Lucifer's Hero points out Tmac may be on way out. Tomlinson only 1cm shorter, Mitch Brown a few cm taller. 

Not ideal options but hopefully Jacko has a big pre-season

[Sir Why You Little 37,036]

The Club has to be shrewd here. We need a back up for Max who can also kick goals up forward

Tmac is not able to do both

[Clintosaurus 7,846]

Starting price would be first round pick, or second round and a player.

[Demon Disciple 12,124]

If we’re willing to let him go, what was the purpose of bringing him in in the first place?

All of a sudden we don’t need back up for Gawn (who has needed time off for injuries and rest just about every year).

Jackson way too young and inexperienced, Bradtke not even close.

A late first rounder/early second which we could onsell for Gunston?

[GCDee 3,199]

Given he is contracted and certainly a required player.. Anything less than a early second round pick is a big loss from our point of view. 

Watch Mahoney be the good bloke and get him to where he needs to be for a swap of third and forth round picks or some [censored] like that. 

[Cards13 9,117]

Just now, Demon Disciple said:

If we’re willing to let him go, what was the purpose of bringing him in in the first place?

All of a sudden we don’t need back up for Gawn (who has needed time off for injuries and rest just about every year).

Jackson way too young and inexperienced, Bradtke not even close.

A late first rounder/early second which we could onsell for Gunston?

Trade value? 

[Red and Blue realist 2,051]

GWS are the only one of those 2 clubs with something decent to give, I'd be asking for O'Halloran who's got a fair bit of upside and is not just an inside mid, he's quick and tough but could easily play an inside/out role. We'd then free up a bit of cap space and maybe chase Peter Wright who from memory was a better junior ruck than forward, so could be more than just a handy back up but also play forward.  

[Demon Disciple 12,124]

Just now, Cards13 said:

Trade value? 

A very strange reason to bring a player in.

[BDA 22,755]

Tomlinson, weid and Jackson can pinch hit. Not sure where Bradtke is at.

I think this is the year to trade him to maximise the return. Giants and Swans are pretty desperate for a ruckman and Pruess is by far the best back-up in the comp. they don’t grow on trees so I’d drive a hard bargain. Swans have pick 22. I’d aim for that.

[JimmyGadson 3,455]

Unless Pruess wants to go, I just can't understand it from the club's pov.

Max is nearing 30 and we have a first year ruck/forward only as backup. (Bradke has done absolutely nothing so far).

One of the many gripes I have about our club is how shallow our ruck depth has been for so long.

Max becomes noticeably banged up during the second half of home and away campaigns and every year from here on he'll start slowing down.

It's playing with fire in my view.

We are not as skilled as many sides who play smaller. It is common knowledge that we can be picked off in aerial contests by sides with talls because a) Aside from Gawn, we have limited aerial threats forward of centre and B) Our forward entries are absolutely ghastly under pressure and even when under little pressure.

Gawn needs to start playing more game time forward or Goody needs to find more quality talls to give him more breaks. Our gameplan doesn't suit playing one ruckman. This is one of many problems Goody needs to address over the off-season.

[Kent 2,909]

13 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

The Club has to be shrewd here. We need a back up for Max who can also kick goals up forward

Tmac is not able to do both

Either!!

[4_Kent_Watts 888]

4 minutes ago, Kent said:

Either!!

Your not wrong he can't do both either. 

[Engorged Onion 10,215]

17 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

If we’re willing to let him go, what was the purpose of bringing him in in the first place?

All of a sudden we don’t need back up for Gawn (who has needed time off for injuries and rest just about every year).

Jackson way too young and inexperienced, Bradtke not even close.

A late first rounder/early second which we could onsell for Gunston?

Because things evolve quickly over 24 months.

Because things are in the pipeline that you and I are not aware of.

Because perhaps the club realise that a 'dominant' ruckman, actually isn't all THAT important.

[GCDee 3,199]

22 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

If we’re willing to let him go, what was the purpose of bringing him in in the first place?

All of a sudden we don’t need back up for Gawn (who has needed time off for injuries and rest just about every year).

Jackson way too young and inexperienced, Bradtke not even close.

A late first rounder/early second which we could onsell for Gunston?

I'd guess we weren't expecting to bottom out last year and have Jackson on our list. 

No way we let him go if Jackson isn't around. 

[DistrACTION Jackson 8,734]

You would have to think GWS would be desperate for a decent ruckman.

I don't think they've ever had one, other than thug Mumford.

We need to play hardball though, I don't want a pick I'd want ready made players involved like O'Halloran, Caldwell, Daniels or Cumming

[Demons11 7,014]

25 minutes ago, GCDee said:

Given he is contracted and certainly a required player.. Anything less than a early second round pick is a big loss from our point of view. 

Watch Mahoney be the good bloke and get him to where he needs to be for a swap of third and forth round picks or some [censored] like that. 

An early 2nd rd pick for a player who is very limited and only played a handful games in 2 years?  Late 2nd or early 3rd I’d say is fair value.  

[Demons11 7,014]

1 minute ago, Action Jackson said:

You would have to think GWS would be desperate for a decent ruckman.

I don't think they've ever had one, other than thug Mumford.

We need to play hardball though, I don't want a pick I'd want ready made players involved like O'Halloran, Caldwell, Daniels or Cumming

??‍♂️Talk about over valuing a player. 

[adonski 12,132]

6 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

??‍♂️Talk about over valuing a player. 

It’s not about what a player is worth in the general sense, or what’s fair. It’s about what a player is worth to the club they’re going to. Preuss is worth more to GWS, than to other clubs for example, so there’d be more substantial an offer from the Giants.

Edited September 24, 2020 by adonski

[Dr.D 1,771]

it doesn't bother me. Jackson is a ruckman and not a forward so worst case scenario we get to blood jackson more. 

Geelong and Richmond have shown that you don't even need a ruckman so I'd be happy at using the pick to bring in our lists major deficiency: speed. 

[Fat Tony 5,230]

Jackson offers the ability to double as a forward and back up ruck.

I think we will get a second round pick for Preuss, which is fair. IMO Preuss could be a starting ruckman at GWS and Sydney.

[DeeSpencer 25,704]

We’ve bloated our salary cap with deals like Tomlinson, so if we can get out of Preuss’ cash and use the pick and cash on a best 22 player I think we should.

Jackson is the number 2. 
 

If Bradtke isn’t the number 3 then we should look through the state leagues and other clubs back ups for a cheap number 3.