47 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

I'm scratching my head maybe May and Trac getting AA selection. Bartlett finally getting off his [censored] and sacking Goodloss? Help me out here?

COVID 19

There is still plenty of talent on the list, coming into the right age to compete and play consistent finals... BUT 

there is now a serious question mark on if we have the right bloke to maximize that talent and get us where we need to go. 

There is still COVID-21 to look forward to 

I know one thing. IF we ever get the chance to attend games again, which I am sceptical about, the AFL won't be hiring security guards to patrol the aisles like they did last year, after the hotel quarantine debacle. 

Or will they??

Goodwin talks about ruthlessness & maturity ffs what has he been doing for the last 4 years ..  Time for him to go.. 

Oh well I guess it's time for another rebuild!

 

its not another rebuilt - the top 6 players are fine - we need to supplement the list.  Its players 7-38 that don't do enough.  Savvy drafting and recruiting is what we need.  

8 hours ago, Patches O’houlihan said:

There is still plenty of talent on the list, coming into the right age to compete and play consistent finals... BUT 

there is now a serious question mark on if we have the right bloke to maximize that talent and get us where we need to go. 

No there isn’t. Not enough talent. We need about six elite players, especially a couple of forwards and a couple of outside mids. Look at Geelong. Look at WC. They have WAY better lists. The coach can’t make a silk purse out of a dingo’s scrotum.

9 hours ago, titan_uranus said:

Do we really need another thread?

??

At least we don’t have to watch the Demons again until April 

im so sick of have my hopes crushed 

We need to change the game plan.

Goodwins idea of win the contested ball and that will hold up in any game or final is now proven incorrect.

A team of smarts and skill, that plays like a unit with composed ball movement, especially on the outside will always win.

46 minutes ago, Hogan2014 said:

Goodwin talks about ruthlessness & maturity ffs what has he been doing for the last 4 years ..  Time for him to go.. 

Yes that was shizzzzzzzen. 
Hiding the real issue of footskills and intensity. 

9 hours ago, Dame Gaga said:

I know one thing. IF we ever get the chance to attend games again, which I am sceptical about, the AFL won't be hiring security guards to patrol the aisles like they did last year, after the hotel quarantine debacle. 

Or will they??

Interesting, I had an awful experience with MCC security guards in 2020. I suspected then that they were sub contractors/ something shonky. How do you have 80 per cent of guards of one ethnicity working together, probability says otherwise.

NBA playoffs are heating up. Rockets v Lakers had far more entertaining ball movement than the Cairns dross that was served up. 

And then AFL finals with decent quality footy being played. 

Feel relieved that our season is over, no more let downs.

 

Edited September 7, 20204 yr by John Demonic

I'll be making the most of my 3 month Kayo trial and watching the NFL which commences this weekend. Go Packers!

The Boxing Day test.

 

................................... oh hang on!

Got some stout cooling in the fridge right now.

That's something to look forward to.

Collingwood being eliminated in the first week of the finals.

Trac polling well in the Brownlow.

Could we relocate to Cairns as we seem to play well up there?

I would like to know what Pert and Barttlet are thinking right now?

Goodwin has run out of options, he is no good as a head coach.

We can look forward to 2021 and beyond. We will catch alight again - mark my words or put it in the book or whatever people say. 2018 was a false or very narrow window and 2020 has been an unprecedented [censored]-fest. We have a very good but still maturing core. Our seniors are all but finished though.

That core will become our new senior leadership soon and we have some very talented youngsters. No one likes excuses (a nod to @Engorged Onion for asking what is the difference between excuses and reasons?) - but we've been up against it this season. Compare the Demons' fixture to the Bulldogs or Richmond for example. I really don't know how anyone can discount it.

(Note here how outside of the Pickett/Spargo blip we've kept a very tidy house this year). 

If we had been recently successful then most people would agree, as well as understanding the toll of injuries in 2019 - but we carry the baggage of failure. Spouting anywhere anytime rhetoric is great as a mentality or catchphrase but it isn't the reality (West Coast won a recent flag but was consistently poor on the road, while Richmond has struggled away).

We've designed one of the most even sporting competitions in the world - and as such any small advantage is magnified (see Geelong getting their senior players to agree to pay-cuts for example, or father-sons and priority picks). We have some small advantages coming but we still suffer the legacy of the Neeld & tanking era where our list balance was thrown into disarray. 

Our window opens again next year but probably won't reach it's peak until 2022/23. It's [censored] but it's the reality. I don't care about Goodwin anymore (I'm still a supporter but if he has lost the vast majority of the membership then that's a cause for concern) - but we need to stay the course in some respects. A total rebuild now would be hugely detrimental. 

Just reflect on Jones, TMac, Jetta, and Melksham for instance - our most senior players - and their contribution this season, and compare it to Geelong maybe. Bar Jones, all of Selwood, Ablett, Dangerfield, Hawkins, Taylor, Tuohy and Dahlhaus have played more games than anyone on our list. Is it any wonder that mature players have handled this season better than others? 

As is usually the norm, I look forward to many happy months of no Melbourne playing at the seasons end. 

39 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Got some stout cooling in the fridge right now.

That's something to look forward to.

In Europe we drink stout closer to room temperature. Get into it now Wise. 

1 hour ago, Waltham33 said:

its not another rebuilt - the top 6 players are fine - we need to supplement the list.  Its players 7-38 that don't do enough.  Savvy drafting and recruiting is what we need.  

That’s probably called a rebuild.

Just checked and Oscar, ANB and Hunt are the 10th to 12th most experienced current players in Demon colours. Hard to get the head around.