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A precis of the article, please...


We deserve almost every spray that heads our way. Not sure about the "What do you stand for" garbage though.

What does Collingwood stand for?

Just a dumb article.

One sentence reads "In 2009 they took Tom Scully at 1 and Jack Trengove at 2. Nat Fyfe went at 20"

That alone shows you how lazy and ill informed the article is. 

 

  On 08/08/2020 at 22:37, faultydet said:

We deserve almost every spray that heads our way. Not sure about the "What do you stand for" garbage though.

What does Collingwood stand for?

A business lifeline for orthodontists?

 
  On 08/08/2020 at 22:27, Lucifer's Hero said:

A precis of the article, please...

  • Essentially details our history associated with universities, big business and accountants (so not blue collar).
  • Details Glen Bartlett's choice to move here for work even though he played in WA
  • Poor drafting choices, contrasts Cale Morton to Lachie Henderson
  • Questions drafting both May and Lever, as they are allegedly similar types
  • Wonders about the influence or lack thereof of  Richardson on game style
  • States that everyone knows that the sweat on the gym floor at Aami Park is Melbourne Storm and not the players - ie: don't work hard enough
  • 3 A graders - Gawn, Petracca (when he works hard enough) and Oliver
  • Can't spread
  • Our bodies are not big enough to compete with the best.

post script. I'm neither here nor there on Malthouse or anyone commenting on any team. This is such a superficial sense making article, a grab bag of quotes and anecdotes (see comment re: Melbourne Storm) which I believe was from around 5-10 years ago. But it is of course the Herald Sun.

 

Edited by Engorged Onion

  On 08/08/2020 at 22:41, Engorged Onion said:
  • Essentially details our history associated with univeristy and accountant (so not blue collar).
  • Details Glen Bartlett's choice to move here for work even though he played in WA
  • Poor drafting choices, contrasts Cale Morton to Lachie Henderson
  • Questions drafting both May and Lever, as they are allegedly similar types
  • Wonders about the influence or lack thereof of  Richardson on game style
  • States that everyone knows that the sweat on the gym floor at Aami Park is Melbourne Storm and not the players - ie: don't work hard enough
  • 3 A graders - Gawn, Petracca (when he works hard enough) and Oliver
  • Can't spread
  • Our bodies are not big enough to compete with the best.

Many thanks EG.

Most points are rubbish or ancient history.  I've highlighted the ones that imv have validity. 

Malthouse doesn't like nor respect us.  Nonetheless he was the only commentator that predicted we wouldn't make finals and crash badly in 2019.  Whatever drove that prediction he has a better grasp on what it takes to be a premiership contender than many of us care to admit.

Would love to make and have some success in finals this year, just to prove him wrong.

Edited by Lucifer's Hero


  On 08/08/2020 at 22:41, Engorged Onion said:
  • Essentially details our history associated with universities, big business and accountants (so not blue collar).
  • Details Glen Bartlett's choice to move here for work even though he played in WA
  • Poor drafting choices, contrasts Cale Morton to Lachie Henderson
  • Questions drafting both May and Lever, as they are allegedly similar types
  • Wonders about the influence or lack thereof of  Richardson on game style
  • States that everyone knows that the sweat on the gym floor at Aami Park is Melbourne Storm and not the players - ie: don't work hard enough
  • 3 A graders - Gawn, Petracca (when he works hard enough) and Oliver
  • Can't spread
  • Our bodies are not big enough to compete with the best.

post script. I'm neither here nor there on Malthouse or anyone commenting on any team. This is such a superficial sense making article, a grab bag of quotes and anecdotes (see comment re: Melbourne Storm) which I believe was from around 5-10 years ago. But it is of course the Herald Sun.

 

Thanks.

He hasn't said anything we don't already know.

Bit tough on the work rate jibe? 

Who cares, he's a total [censored] head. 

My favourite part is he mentions Salem as one of 4 quality players we have. Then says we traded the pick Kelly went for for Dom Tyson but no mention of Salem. The article cant decide whether it wants to trash our lack of culture, historical recruiting and trading or the coach and game plan. So why not a little bit from all three columns :)

Edited by big_red_fire_engine

I don't like Stephen Milne but gee I wish the ball bounced up for him. 

Malthouse is a poor man's Sheedy. Kick it along the boundary line is not a game plan worthy of discussing.


Compare Malthouses article which is little more than " I have to submit a story or I won't get paid" To Jordan Lewis's article which hits the head on the nail. 

Edited by Mr Steve

The only thing I think we have wasted again is a realistic oppertunity to finish top 4.  Losses to Geelong, the Lions in particular and to some extent Richmond were games that I think we could look back on and rue as winnable games we let slip.  Our slow starts to seasons are killing our best opportunities to win flags.

As I see it, we have still got a good oppertunity to just make finals from here, if we continue build our form and start to beat teams above us like Collingwood, Bulldogs, Essendon, GWS and St Kilda that I think we are more than capable of.  If we keep our list healthier than everyone else, maybe we stand a better than average chance of winning a flag from outside the top four.  As much as anything though, realistically I'm looking at making finals as an oppertunity to test our team and game plan against good opposition to set-up a genuine crack for next season.  I wouldn't call that a wasted season.

Beyond all else, how can Mick call it a wasted season when it isn't finished yet?  A lot could play out from here.  It's a marathon, not a sprint.

Edited by Rodney (Balls) Grinter

Mick can have some outdated views, but a lot of the things he raises are the same as members on here have been asking over the last 18 months. 


  On 08/08/2020 at 23:27, Mr Steve said:

Compare Malthouses article which is little more than " I have to submit a story or I won't get paid" To Jordan Lewis's article which hits the head on the nail. 

Hit's the head on the nail. Interesting, painful but an unusual take on an old saying. Might even catch on.

  On 08/08/2020 at 22:40, No Plan B said:

Just a dumb article.

One sentence reads "In 2009 they took Tom Scully at 1 and Jack Trengove at 2. Nat Fyfe went at 20"

That alone shows you how lazy and ill informed the article is. 

 

Interesting...I remember Malthouse commentating on radio.

I think it was a Friday night game at the 'G' and Scully had a purple patch in the final Q in his first season or was it 2nd, anyway...

Malthouse was asked about Scully.

"One word, Judd' said Malthouse.

I wonder if he thought we got the pick wrong then????

 

It’s a strange article. My big takeaway is that Mick doesn’t bother to do any recent research. Why are we still talking about Cale Morton and Grimes in 2020? Did we fluff the development of Darren Cuthbertson in 1992 as well Mick?

It’s ok Grandad. I’ll get you some milk.

 
  On 08/08/2020 at 23:08, Ethan Tremblay said:

Who cares what that schlemiel has to say. 

Oy gevalt !!!!! What does schlemiel mean ???? 

 

  On 09/08/2020 at 00:08, The heart beats true said:

It’s a strange article. My big takeaway is that Mick doesn’t bother to do any recent research. Why are we still talking about Cale Morton and Grimes in 2020? Did we fluff the development of Darren Cuthbertson in 1992 as well Mick?

It’s ok Grandad. I’ll get you some milk.

Malthouse is still frothing at the gills for us beating and replacing his Footscray for the last finals spot in 1987 on their home turf. I remember the look on his face after the game. He couldn’t believe they lost.


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