Training Ground?

[Dee Viney Intervention 1,691]

41 minutes ago, dpositive said:

you could join the team but id like some detail added to your submission

Do I still get my slab of beer????

[dpositive 1,617]

1 minute ago, Dee Viney Intervention said:

Do I still get my slab of beer????

can be arranged if taken into consideration in proposal.

[Neil Crompton 5,116]

56 minutes ago, dpositive said:

have you seen my pleadings for Fishermans Bend? Greenfeild site that needs some imaginative and progressive proposals.

Haha, no way we could miss them dp. If by some slim chance we end up at Fisherman’s Bend, we will all have you to thank.

[Damo 3,079]

I know Ive kicked this can down the road before, but the VAFA ground in Glenhuntly Rd is under utilised by both VAFA and Cricket Victoria. If compromises were put in place this would be a fantastic training ground. MCG sized, new facilities, properly fenced, close to bus, tram and trains. It is in the City of Bayside not Port Phillip which should help politically. 

A bunch of us use it regularly and like Albert Park, you can generally get on.I should mention

that at Albert Park, because of all the sport currently taking place, we have moved the show to oval number 19.

I am proud to say I wanted to call it Nutbush.

 

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,291]

3 hours ago, No. 31 said:

Yes, Carlton had decades long links to the Liberal Party. That was a dynamic probably more at board level rather than those drinking Carlton Draught tinnies on the outer at Princes Park though.

Despite, the 'Blue Blood' historical connections at Princes Park, it did not stop the Gillard ALP Government splashing cash to upgrade facilities at Princes Park back in 2009 and the upgrades were named after the original 'Teal' himself, the late Don Chipp (who played a few games for Fitzroy in the VFL and was a passionate Carlton supporter).

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2009-08-23/gillard-announces-45m-to-upgrade-princes-park/1400354

Football club support can and does cross party political lines, what is important is lobbying, constant lobbying.

MFC members should be trying to lobby local politicians in Caulfield and nearby areas from all tiers of government - Local Government, State & Federal.

The squeaky wheel gets the oil ...

He really didn't want to mingle with the common folk did he Sir Robert?

[dino rover 680]

On 25/11/2023 at 20:58, FearTheBeard said:

Every single one of those areas Malvern, Caulfield, Brighton, Toorak, Sandy etc all still voted liberal last year.

The teals are a different matter at the federal level because Goldstein and Kooyong both include much lower income areas.

Goldstein includes Brighton black rock Sandringham Hampton gardenvale highett Hampton Beaumaris Caulfield south Ormond McKinnon part of elsternwick 

not really sure what lower income areas you refer to?

goldstein may have voted Liberal but not sufficiently to deny Zoe Daniel’s (Teal) from winning the seat

[Its Time for Another 4,058]

58 minutes ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

He really didn't want to mingle with the common folk did he Sir Robert?

Actually if you look closely it looks like he wouldn't have been able to open his door. Maybe they were protecting the masses from him.

[Demon Disciple 11,300]

48 minutes ago, dino rover said:

Goldstein includes Brighton black rock Sandringham Hampton gardenvale highett Hampton Beaumaris Caulfield south Ormond McKinnon part of elsternwick

I doubt the residents of Sandringham, Black Rock, Hampton or Brighton would dare be caught socialising with the plebs of the remaining suburbs 😁.

The level of affluence in Brighton I see every day when working is nauseating.

[Damo 3,079]

Just now, Demon Disciple said:

 

The level of affluence in Brighton I see every day when working is nauseating.

That must be near my place. The sewers are overflowing.

[dpositive 1,617]

11 hours ago, Neil Crompton said:

Haha, no way we could miss them dp. If by some slim chance we end up at Fisherman’s Bend, we will all have you to thank.

well thanks for that support but I would really need the expertise of others with specialist knowledge to get it up. I hope to raise it again at the AGM

[Demon Disciple 11,300]

12 hours ago, Damo said:

That must be near my place. The sewers are overflowing.

Are you the resident with 2 Ferrari’s in your garage, along with a Mercedes?

[No. 31 762]

18 hours ago, YesitwasaWin4theAges said:

He really didn't want to mingle with the common folk did he Sir Robert?

Yeah, I couldn't really see Bob M, sinking beers with fans standing in the outer 😁

[Sir Why You Little 35,633]

On 26/11/2023 at 15:57, Damo said:

There I was thinking you worked for Kerry Packer.

I did work at GTV9 in ‘86

Very perceptive of you

[Damo 3,079]

4 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

I did work at GTV9 in ‘86

Very perceptive of you

All good WYL. But my point was, Kerry never tried to read the room either. IIRC when KP got in the lift, you got out and waited for another. I met Joe and he treated me ok. Kicked the footy with his kids occasionally down at Alma Park.

[Sir Why You Little 35,633]

36 minutes ago, Damo said:

All good WYL. But my point was, Kerry never tried to read the room either. IIRC when KP got in the lift, you got out and waited for another. I met Joe and he treated me ok. Kicked the footy with his kids occasionally down at Alma Park.

Kerry was very good at reading the Room, don’t fool yourself Damo.

There was a reason he was so successful and others merely mimmicked him. 

Joe was an enigma, to this day he has been almost silent. I thank him for donating the money he did, but the problem with that, was, he then ran a one man board. 
there was no long term projection, there was no supporter participation. 
We collectively could have taken The Lexus Center, but Joe wouldn’t see it. 
In 2023, 25 years later we are still fractured as a club in terms of infrastructure. 
Sad 

Edited November 28, 2023 by Sir Why You Little

[Diamond_Jim 12,241]

Just remember the Lexus centre was an asbestos riddled classified building. It was and is not great space.

Was the Olympic park development on the planning books at that time?

[Demonsone 1,769]

Not bagging Casey as the facilities are great for a suburban ground & it’s yielded flags for both teams… but it’s no we’re near the other afl elite top clubs … who’s idea was it to go 50-60 minutes away from our so called heartland … VFA port melb ripe for development with 18 flags & same theme song & a population growth of 20k…& under 20mins from the mcg 

[Stiff Arm 4,419]

5 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Just remember the Lexus centre was an asbestos riddled classified building. It was and is not great space.

Was the Olympic park development on the planning books at that time?

Not to my recollection. Olympic Park came after Coll took what is now Lexus Centre.

Ridiculing the work Joe Gutnik did in saving the club is almost treason. We had no finances at the time to invest in the old olympic swimming pool, the books from then show that. He stopped the merger and put in the single biggest donation the club is ever likely to see. Sure, he wasn't perfect, didnt fit the typical footy following stereotype, perhaps ran it his corperate way, which may have been required at the time. And the real estate investments he made are the reason we are now financially independent. But posters claiming to know the inner machinations of the board from that era without being on the board are just big-noting contrarians spreading hearsay.

Not saying that about you Diamond Jim, btw. Just a follow on from previous comments to yours

Edited November 28, 2023 by Stiff Arm

[Demons1858 1,670]

Joe saved the club, the fact he didn't take up some land is secondary in my opinion. Atleast we still have a club. I am more concerned by the fact that a number of other boards haven't been able to do what they promised

[Stiff Arm 4,419]

5 minutes ago, Demons1858 said:

Joe saved the club, the fact he didn't take up some land is secondary in my opinion. Atleast we still have a club. I am more concerned by the fact that a number of other boards haven't been able to do what they promised

Especially the current board, led by a person noted throught her career for getting big projects off the ground

[daisycutter 28,782]

6 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Just remember the Lexus centre was an asbestos riddled classified building. It was and is not great space.

Was the Olympic park development on the planning books at that time?

no olympic park at that time was athletics vic, which mcchins much later gained by trickery

[Mach5 4,499]

10 hours ago, Stiff Arm said:

Especially the current board, led by a person noted throught her career for getting big projects off the ground

Noted by who? Herself?

What big projects? It’s all a furphy.

[Mach5 4,499]

9 hours ago, daisycutter said:

no olympic park at that time was athletics vic, which mcchins much later gained by trickery

He was head of the Athletics VIC board, but was certainly acting in Collingwood’s best interests with his decisions. Had AV pay for the rebuild then quickly relocate once the new home was complete. Nothing suss there.

[old dee 23,350]

On 29/11/2023 at 06:51, Mach5 said:

Noted by who? Herself?

What big projects? It’s all a furphy.

Collectively we spent years trying to achieve the impossible before it finally clicked that near the G is impossible. Now we are trying to get to Caulfield. That is a decade away if at all.  JC would struggle trying to find us a home.

[Damo 3,079]

1 minute ago, old dee said:

 Now we are trying to get to Caulfield. That is a decade away if at all.  JC would struggle trying to find us a home.

There are many rooms in his fathers house