Jump to content

Featured Replies

Posted

  • Simon Goodwin on Melbourne's struggles this year: "We just weren't prepared for what the game was going to demand right through the summer for a variety of different reasons and from that we lost all our cohesion and ability to put a game style that was identifiable in place."
  • Simon Goodwin: "You just try and work through (form slumps) methodically and keep people believing in the process and understanding you can work your way through it. Deep down you're thinking 'this is going to be hard' but internally you just want to get on the board."
  • Simon Goodwin on Luke Jackson: "This kid is just a unique player, he's different to a modern-day ruckman but where the game is going, we don't see him as just a ruckman."
  • Simon Goodwin on Luke Jackson: "We see him as a guy who can play forward and we see him as the first player who could potentially plays in the midfield at 200cm. He's just such a talent and a unique type of player for our game. It's too big of an opportunity to look past."
  • Simon Goodwin on Harley Bennell: "We're really excited about Harley, he's certainly trying to turn his life around. He's 27 and he's still got a love of the game, he's emotional about where his footy has been and where he wants it to get too and he doesn't want to waste it."
  • How further advanced are Melbourne compared to this time last year? Goodwin: "We've got nearly a full playing group out there training to a real high level which is completely different to this time last year. We didn't even have our players back right now (last year)."
  • Goodwin on the potential of player challenging score reviews: "I think it's healthy and there's a lot of sports around the world where you can challenge umpires on a range of decisions. I think it's a good initiative and the players will welcome that."
 

Appears we will have a 200cm big-big bodied mid running round very soon

 

Also, haven't seen a pic of Gaz in a while, that was a surprise!

Imagining a centre bounce with Gawn, Jackson, Tomlinson and Oliver. Mightn't be very effective but would tower over any other midfield

 

"We just weren't prepared for what the game was going to demand". 

That is inexcusable on so many levels.

11 minutes ago, ArtificialWisdom said:

Imagining a centre bounce with Gawn, Jackson, Tomlinson and Oliver. Mightn't be very effective but would tower over any other midfield

Maybe just add in Pickett to bring the height average down and add an element of a player that wants to hit players hard 


45 minutes ago, BW511 said:

Appears we will have a 200cm big-big bodied mid running round very soon

 

Also, haven't seen a pic of Gaz in a while, that was a surprise!

BIG BAD GARRY!

(Say in Ben and Holly's Little Kingdom Big Bad Barry voice. Gaz might have eaten a few of Mr Elf's boats)

1 minute ago, ArtificialWisdom said:

Imagining a centre bounce with Gawn, Jackson, Tomlinson and Oliver. Mightn't be very effective but would tower over any other midfield

The new center bounce game plan revolves around spiking the ball forward, volleyball style, until we get a player in the clear to have a shot on goal. instead of the average disposals per score of around 30 (not sure of the source), we're going to bring it down to less than 5, and really blow score sheets apart!

 
32 minutes ago, poita said:

"We just weren't prepared for what the game was going to demand". 

That is inexcusable on so many levels.

This is what I find really hard to accept. We had enough experienced people at the club who repeatedly spoke about not getting carried away with a Prelim - they know there was work to be done. Goodwin even flagged it multiple times re the Hawthorn final and then inexplicably chose to not to sit down with the team and review the Prelim (his own words).

Richmond made the prelim under Frawley and didn't see finals for another 12 years. We aren't that team but I hope like hell Goodwin has looked inside himself to unlock the issues - even if he doesn't explain them publicly.

Re the draft they have gone bold which I don't mind. Jackson has plenty of upside and Pickett could be the most exciting player since Jurrah - x-factor we have been missing.

Lets go 2020.

 


42 minutes ago, poita said:

"We just weren't prepared for what the game was going to demand". 

That is inexcusable on so many levels.

I assume he is trying to say - we couldn’t prepare for what the season was going to demand due to many factors out of our control

  • Simon Goodwin on Melbourne's struggles this year: "We just weren't prepared for what the game was going to demand right through the summer for a variety of different reasons and from that we lost allour cohesion and ability to put a game style that was identifiable in place."

Should a game style be identifiable (at least to those on the outside)?

The successes we had in 2018 were in great part due to chaos and unpredictability. 
 

If our plan is too identifiable then it is more easily countered.  

1 hour ago, poita said:

"We just weren't prepared for what the game was going to demand". 

That is inexcusable on so many levels.

Think you've taken that the wrong way mate. Can see how that could happen when it's just in text form though.

 

1 hour ago, poita said:

"We just weren't prepared for what the game was going to demand". 

That is inexcusable on so many levels.

Clearly talking about injuries, and not being able to get a core playing group together on a continuous basis to develop that cohesion further.

I was pretty disappointed with the club this year like everyone, the coaches, the players the admin, it was just a very poor year full of amateur mistakes, wrong messaging, underwhelming leadership and quite frankly a rather sickening response to a poor exit coming off a good year.

So i applaud the changes, the desire to make amends and the fact we have not sat on our hands and just expected we will bounce back. Goodwin is a relatively young coach, and all coaches face challenges, he did this year and im sure he will have learnt a lot, Richo will be a great addition to teh club. The Recruiters have identified areas where we could be better and gone and got players, Jury is out on Jackson for me, but i will embrace it, i love teh selection of Pickett, its a need we have. 

Im now prepared to let the last 12 months go and throw my full support behind the club. The past is behind us and the future in front of us. Go Dees.


2 hours ago, poita said:

"We just weren't prepared for what the game was going to demand". 

That is inexcusable on so many levels.

Remind me again why he is the senior coach...

4 minutes ago, Big Carl said:

Remind me again why he is the senior coach...

Because he has a contract

Did you get to the interview stage in the selection process?

53 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Think you've taken that the wrong way mate. Can see how that could happen when it's just in text form though.

 

Poita taking it the wrong way?

Sure not.....

21 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Because he has a contract

Did you get to the interview stage in the selection process?

What a response!

1 hour ago, DubDee said:

I assume he is trying to say - we couldn’t prepare for what the season was going to demand due to many factors out of our control

Thank you.

For the dopes (and they are numerous) - Goodwin was referencing the operations and the fact that the entire midfield group had delayed/badly interrupted preseasons where they could barely do contesteted work before January (some February).


31 minutes ago, Satyriconhome said:

Because he has a contract

Did you get to the interview stage in the selection process?

This is a magnificent post. A solid burn.

4 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Thank you.

For the dopes (and they are numerous) - Goodwin was referencing the operations and the fact that the entire midfield group had delayed/badly interrupted preseasons where they could barely do contesteted work before January (some February).

Exactly. Something the Eeyore brigade would not consider before potting everyone in the club, and other supporters.

1 hour ago, Demon3 said:

I was pretty disappointed with the club this year like everyone, the coaches, the players the admin, it was just a very poor year full of amateur mistakes, wrong messaging, underwhelming leadership and quite frankly a rather sickening response to a poor exit coming off a good year.

So i applaud the changes, the desire to make amends and the fact we have not sat on our hands and just expected we will bounce back. Goodwin is a relatively young coach, and all coaches face challenges, he did this year and im sure he will have learnt a lot, Richo will be a great addition to teh club. The Recruiters have identified areas where we could be better and gone and got players, Jury is out on Jackson for me, but i will embrace it, i love teh selection of Pickett, its a need we have. 

Im now prepared to let the last 12 months go and throw my full support behind the club. The past is behind us and the future in front of us. Go Dees.

Great Post D3.

The summary of impacts of injuries etc after 2018 on 2019 at the recent forum was also illuminating and puts the 2019 in some sort of context. Josh Mahoney's stat of only 2 starting 22 player, (Gawn and Lewis completed 80% plus of preseason), whilst 10 best starting 22 completed 30% or less spoke volumes IMO.

nevertheless no excuses now for 2020 with whats going on at present training and recruiting - wise.

Likewise - Go Dees

3 hours ago, poita said:

"We just weren't prepared for what the game was going to demand". 

That is inexcusable on so many levels.

He didn't mean it from a 'how we prepared as a club perspective, we were blindsided due to strategy/tactics etc' - it was a reference to the context of where the playing group was at from a rehab perspective.

*apologies, my rage, didn't see that 48 other posters had written essentially the same thing...

Edited by Engorged Onion

 
3 hours ago, Clint Bizkit said:

The fact he supports the players challenging score reviews says a lot.

Que? What do you read from that statement @Clint Bizkit?

My interest is his thinking of Jackson as a midfielder. There was lots os speculation when the Dogs went early with Bontempelli a 193 cm mid. It was a calculated risk which has paid off handsomely. From the limited highlights Jackson may well go the same way. Seriously athletic and hunts the ball.


Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

Featured Content

  • PREGAME: Brisbane

    The Demons head back out on the road in Round 10 when they travel to Queensland to take on the reigning Premiers and the top of the table Lions who look very formidable. Can the Dees cause a massive upset? Who comes in and who goes out?

      • Like
    • 45 replies
    Demonland
  • PODCAST: Hawthorn

    The Demonland Podcast will air LIVE on Monday, 12th May @ 8:00pm. Join Binman, George & I as we dissect the Demons loss to the Hawks. Your questions and comments are a huge part of our podcast so please post anything you want to ask or say below and we'll give you a shout out on the show. If you would like to leave us a voicemail please call 03 9016 3666 and don't worry no body answers so you don't have to talk to a human.

      • Thanks
    • 17 replies
    Demonland
  • POSTGAME: Hawthorn

    Wayward kicking for goal, dump kicks inside 50 and some baffling umpiring all contributed to the Dees not getting out to an an early lead that may have impacted the result. At the end of the day the Demons were just not good enough and let the Hawks run away with their first win against the Demons in 7 years.

      • Clap
      • Love
      • Like
    • 255 replies
    Demonland
  • VOTES: Hawthorn

    After 3 fantastic week Max Gawn has a massive lead in the Demonland Player of the Year award from Jake Bowey, Christian Petracca, Kade Chandler and Ed Langdon who round out the Top Five. Your votes please. 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 & 1.

      • Thanks
    • 26 replies
    Demonland
  • GAMEDAY: Hawthorn

    It’s game day and the Demons are chasing a fourth straight win as we take on the high flying Hawks at the G. After decades of being tormented by the Hawks the Dees will be keen to extend their 7 year dominance over Hawthorn.

      • Clap
      • Thanks
      • Like
    • 471 replies
    Demonland
  • NON-MFC: Round 09

    Round 9 kicks off out west with the Dockers hosting a Collingwood side resting several stars. Fremantle need to make a statement on their home deck after some disappointing form on the road, while the Magpies will be keen to maintain their Top 2 position. Friday night sees a must-win clash between two sides desperate to stay in touch with the eight. St Kilda have shown glimpses while Carlton are clinging to relevance after a flat start to the season. Saturday’s twilight game at Marvel pits the Bombers against a struggling Sydney outfit. Essendon can’t afford another close match against a lower-ranked side, while the Swans risk sliding down the ladder even further. Up in Darwin, the fourth-placed Suns will look to extend their stay in the top four. The Bulldogs have hit their stride with three big wins on the trot and will be very keen to consolidate on their momentum. The always fiery Showdown looms as pivotal for both clubs. Adelaide are eyeing a spot in the Top 4 with a win, while Port Adelaide’s season could slip away if they drop another game and fall further behind the pack. Sunday begins with a yawn fest between Richmond and West Coast. The Tigers need to bank the points to stay clear of the bottom two, while the Eagles are still chasing their first win of the year. The Giants face one of the league’s toughest road trips as they travel to GMHBA Stadium to face the Cats. With GWS at risk of a third straight loss, Geelong will be eager to consolidate their position inside the eight and start their climb up the ladder. The round wraps up with the top-of-the-table Lions heading to Ninja Stadium to take on the second-last Roos. The Lions should easily take care of the struggling Roos who might be powerless against the best in the comp. Who are you tipping and what are the best results for the Demons?

      • Thanks
    • 163 replies
    Demonland