On 9/10/2019 at 12:33 AM, McQueen said:

I thought it was ‘neck’ related and they (the medicos) had it sorted...

I hope he comes right and we have a valuable player but to be frank, we got sold bull [censored]. 

That’s what we were told. I don’t think it was BS (which implies they lied, has an implication of malice to it), just that they got it wrong. Diagnoses like this are all an on balance of probabilities type thing rather than definitive, so it can happen.

On 9/10/2019 at 12:33 AM, McQueen said:

I thought it was ‘neck’ related and they (the medicos) had it sorted...

I hope he comes right and we have a valuable player but to be frank, we got sold bull [censored]. 

I fear that's it as an AFL career for KK...much more important things in life really

He we have another case, imho,  of our medicos failing in the Due diligence arena. They alone weren't the problem though as we just seem to want to trade for or draft players that "hopefully might come good "

NQR is just an ongoing quality about Melbourne. This needs to come to an end

Good luck Kade

 

Time to retire KK

and time for the MFC to get smarter with recruitment 

We have had so many “cast offs” over the years. I know a few will get through, but our record is pretty ordinary

4 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

I fear that's it as an AFL career for KK...much more important things in life really

He we have another case, imho,  of our medicos failing in the Due diligence arena. They alone weren't the problem though as we just seem to want to trade for or draft players that "hopefully might come good "

NQR is just an ongoing quality about Melbourne. This needs to come to an end

Good luck Kade

 

I am not sure whether the Melbourne medical staff were remiss here but I certainly agree with the sentiments in the last two sentences. NQR sums up a long history of a lot of Melbourne's operations- from recruiting to simple things like administration and membership. My own personal experience was trying to get to an MFC lunchon matchday and being confronted with the bouncers who told me I couldn't enter the area where the lunch was held I eventually talked my way in because I didn't want to waste an average to good feed but soon retreated to the sanctuary of the Bullring in the MCC as I wasn't made to feel that welcome. I could elaborate on any number of administrative incompetencies but it serves no real purpose as they are now past history. I also think Peter Jackson did a magnificent job in cleaning up a dreadful mess and just hope it doesn't relapse. At times it feels like being in a third world country.

I did read an article on the Brisbane Bears which praised their medical team as contributing to their lack of injuries, objectively the same could not be said for us. It certainly is one aspect of our operations that bears close scrutiny.

 

On 9/9/2019 at 9:01 PM, picket fence said:

Nup needs to RETIRE!

Not worth the risk of sustaining Life Long injuries

Give it away Son!!

PF

To me and it is only my opinion but he appears to have that washed out look that I often saw with friends after a very heavy night out when we were young. I hope for his sake and the MFC that the medico's get it sorted before he has long term effects. Good luck Kade.

Wow surprised by the number of people writing him off. Had one season at the club. States in the video that he is starting to get back into running and looking forward to next year.

I remember when Brayshaw was in a similar position and everyone on here was quick to make their own assessment that he should just retire. Now look where gus is at. Finished third in the brownlow last year...

Give the kid a chance? I don't know him personally so I can't judge the situation. But as a dees fan I'll support him with whatever he chooses and currently it seems he wants to try and play football next year.

Edited September 11, 20195 yr by Yung Blood

34 minutes ago, Yung Blood said:

Wow surprised by the number of people writing him off. Had one season at the club. States in the video that he is starting to get back into running and looking forward to next year.

I remember when Brayshaw was in a similar position and everyone on here was quick to make their own assessment that he should just retire. Now look where gus is at. Finished third in the brownlow last year...

Give the kid a chance? I don't know him personally so I can't judge the situation. But as a dees fan I'll support him with whatever he chooses and currently it seems he wants to try and play football next year.

Might be wrong as I've mostly skimmed posts in this thread, but I feel like people here are more concerned for his wellbeing, rather than writing him off as such.

I hope he makes the best decision for him and if that means having another crack then do it or retiring then good on him,  as we have learnt in the last couple days, there are things far more important than footy.

50 minutes ago, Yung Blood said:

Wow surprised by the number of people writing him off. Had one season at the club. States in the video that he is starting to get back into running and looking forward to next year.

I remember when Brayshaw was in a similar position and everyone on here was quick to make their own assessment that he should just retire. Now look where gus is at. Finished third in the brownlow last year...

Give the kid a chance? I don't know him personally so I can't judge the situation. But as a dees fan I'll support him with whatever he chooses and currently it seems he wants to try and play football next year.

I have a son who played local senior footy and badly injured his same knee twice.Two major knee operations later I had one bit of advice for him.

Think about your long term future and even though you love it , there are other things which you need to consider.

He didn't play this year

We are Talking knees , to  my way of thinking Concussions are in another more serious level again.

I would hate to see KK get any more head knocks concussion related injuries. I really would hate that.

2 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Might be wrong as I've mostly skimmed posts in this thread, but I feel like people here are more concerned for his wellbeing, rather than writing him off as such.

OK maybe the number of people is fewer then I thought you're right but just read a few posts like ''needs to RETIRE' or 'time to retire'. If it was written more like 'I hope he is really considering his future and health as I am concerned for the young lad long term' maybe I'd understand more.

2 hours ago, picket fence said:

I have a son who played local senior footy and badly injured his same knee twice.Two major knee operations later I had one bit of advice for him.

Think about your long term future and even though you love it , there are other things which you need to consider.

He didn't play this year

We are Talking knees , to  my way of thinking Concussions are in another more serious level again.

I would hate to see KK get any more head knocks concussion related injuries. I really would hate that.

Totally agree. My best mate had two knee reco's and had to finish his senior footy days early as he worked a trade and had a young family. Of course its important to consider your future especially with serious injuries such as this. It's an area we're still learning about and the long term effects are definitely of concern.

All I am saying is that we respect KK's decision whatever it is and if it means him continuing his footy then back him in like we did with Brayshaw. If its too difficult for him to come back then absolutely consider finishing up. Retirement is an option but doesn't seem like he is there just yet. 

Poor guy!

Luckless Dee's concussion nightmare

"The Tasmanian played only two games last year because of his ongoing concussion problems and suffered yet another worrying knock in training before Christmas. 

Kolodjashnij, 24, collided with teammates in an aerial contest, and has been unable to rejoin main training since."

 

Yes I have heard that he can’t watch tv or use an ipad .This is from a club employee who is a part of the coaching team in AAMI.

4 minutes ago, Dingo said:

Yes I have heard that he can’t watch tv or use an ipad .This is from a club employee who is a part of the coaching team in AAMI.

Shocking luck. I know it would be hard to turn back relatively big money but probably getting close to the point where he needs to give it away for his own good.

"As a club, we are respecting Kade's history of concussions and being very cautious with his rehabilitation. His program has been developed by medical experts and he is showing signs of improvement. Our main priority is to get Kade back to full health and we do expect him to make a full recovery. At this stage, we have not put a timeframe on his recovery and subsequent return to football."

https://www.afl.com.au/news/372466/career-on-hold-more-concussion-concerns-for-demon

Footy should be his last consideration at this stage (other than as much as being involved with a club may aid his mental state).

One can only hope he can return to a satisfying and happy life after footy.  

The poor bugger

Must be terrible. Honestly can’t see him playing footy again if he’s struggling with some of the basics in life. 

On 9/9/2019 at 7:43 PM, DeeSpencer said:

Unlikely to be a popular opinion but I'm very skeptical on these concussions. Innocuous head knocks suddenly leading to symptoms months later in otherwise healthy individuals? Obviously multiple concussions as well as sub-concussive hits to the head like boxers and NFL players take I can understand, but one head knock and all of a sudden you're done for months, the body has to be more resilient than that. 

 I think it's a poorly understood mental health issue as much as an neurological one. You start to lose confidence and belief and all of a sudden your brain is creating symptoms to avoid having to go back out there. I'm not saying it's all made up, I just think the treatment has to be holistic.

One thing I'd say for sure with Kade is we better not pick him for the senior side until he's fit, strong, relishing the contests and showing he's absolutely ready and safe to play AFL footy again. Even if he flies through preseason he might do well to spend a month at Casey.

Swedish concussion specialist below disagrees with the bolded bit above.  No offence, but this is a sensitive issue and uninformed opinions are best kept to yourself. 

Concussion test: Tau

Professor Henrik Zetterberg, a neurochemist from the University of Gothenburg in Sweden, has been looking at indicators of axon damage that might meet the criteria of a marker for more subtle brain damage. He says that, so far, research has singled out two key candidates. The first, the protein tau, is already making a name for itself as a biological villain of other conditions such as Alzheimer’s disease.

Research has shown that amateur boxers have higher levels of tau in the blood stream the week or so after a bout, even if they’re not knocked out. These levels then slowly return to normal around eight to 10 weeks after the impact, as long as the boxer doesn’t have any more head impacts during that time.

Pretty sure this is not Kade Kolodjashnij but Austin Bradtke?

there probably becomes a time when you should retire for your own safety or as that saints bloke did take time away from the game completely 

The bloke is young which is a positive thing for him but I classify him as someone not a part of our playing group now. If he is able to get past these issues and get back out there then fantastic but really his future should be his life after footy symptoms wise needs to be his priority and only when everyone is satisfied he will be ok should he look to get back out there.

Lot's of people put the pen through Brayshaw and he proved them wrong, but KK's issues just seem to be on another level.

Should and has played his last game. Health overides everything.

Shocking Bad luck!

Soooo will he be place don the LTI list? and does that mean with him and Nietschke we have 2 spots to fill?

The club should continue to do everything in its power to help Kade the person, but he is done as an AFL footballer and we need to reach an agreement with him to free up a spot on the list. We simply cannot afford to carry him on the injury list for another two years.

Further the club needs to come clean on what due diligence (if any) was carried out on Kade's health before they gave him a three year contract. We have seen some abysmal list management decisions made in the past 10 years, but this is clearly the worst.

1 minute ago, poita said:

The club should continue to do everything in its power to help Kade the person, but he is done as an AFL footballer and we need to reach an agreement with him to free up a spot on the list. We simply cannot afford to carry him on the injury list for another two years.

Further the club needs to come clean on what due diligence (if any) was carried out on Kade's health before they gave him a three year contract. We have seen some abysmal list management decisions made in the past 10 years, but this is clearly the worst.

Why?