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When will the AFL make a call on the PP for the Suns, hopefully its sooner rather than later as it will impact our decision making you would think?

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Suns will imo get a pick at end of first round.

I suspect we're pleading our case to NOT have GC get picks 1 and 2. 

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8 minutes ago, praha said:

Suns will imo get a pick at end of first round.

I suspect we're pleading our case to NOT have GC get picks 1 and 2. 

I would think the case to not give GC pick 2 will come from all clubs as all will be disadvantaged.

We are there to 'outline financial and business plans'.  Sounds like we are asking for money again.  So much for the mfc that was financially solid and stable just 12 months ago.  Sad.

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Tell the b"s about the maggots and the media.

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Already lots of talk the GC have been approved for PP pick 2. Classic MFC luck.

Reading between the lines a bit, it sounds like maybe we're asking for financial assistance rather than draft picks.

"It is unclear exactly what the Demons will ask for however their crowd numbers have fallen dramatically during their dismal 2019 season, which will hurt their bottom line."

Gold Coast, Melbourne reportedly to present to AFL Commission next Tuesday for help

 

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2 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

I would think the case to not give GC pick 2 will come from all clubs as all will be disadvantaged.

We are there to 'outline financial and business plans'.  Sounds like we are asking for money again.  So much for the mfc that was financially solid and stable just 12 months ago.  Sad.

The last line in the article confirms it. It also shows that AFL media is just as sensationalistic as the mainstream media it feeds. The article implies that the Suns and Melbourne are meeting with the Commission because of their positions on the ladder. That's not the case.

I hope we'll be explaining that 2019 was an abberation and that we expect to be back in finals contention next year. We need the AFL Commission to believe that if we're to be given good timeslots, lots of free to air TV games and a draw which will attract spectators to the MCG. 

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4 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

I would think the case to not give GC pick 2 will come from all clubs as all will be disadvantaged.

We are there to 'outline financial and business plans'.  Sounds like we are asking for money again.  So much for the mfc that was financially solid and stable just 12 months ago.  Sad.

All clubs meet with the commission, so it's not unusual, but gets readers sucked in when it can be isolated to the clubs that have struggled. I assume we'll be asking about some help with the training ground and facilities, or at least be providing an update as to how that is all going. 

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I wonder if this means that Jaguar have decided to not sponsor us again; it was a one year deal.  Hence our need for more AFL funding.

Interesting to note that Gil said in an Age podcast that St Kilda is being financially supported to the same level as the two franchise clubs. Coincidence?  Doubt it.

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If it’s financial, then that’s woeful!  Didn’t they sell off the gaming? They should be flush with money.  Jackson must be chocking on his cornflakes.

membership will take a hit until members see tangible change at the start of 2020.  Cannot keep forking out dollars when the players on this list are mediocre with their comfort zone.

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20 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

I would think the case to not give GC pick 2 will come from all clubs as all will be disadvantaged.

We are there to 'outline financial and business plans'.  Sounds like we are asking for money again.  So much for the mfc that was financially solid and stable just 12 months ago.  Sad.

I don't read it that way at all LH. 

More so that the AFL are wondering why we've dropped away so quickly this season

Maybe there's some issues that we're not privy to and it looks to me that we've been summoned rather than asking for handouts.

Can't be sure though but I'll be surprised if we don't post another profit this season (that would make it 10 profitable years from the last 11)

 

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5 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

I wonder if this means that Jaguar have decided to not sponsor us again; it was a one year deal.  Hence our need for more AFL funding.

Interesting to note that Gil said in an Age podcast that St Kilda is being financially supported to the same level as the two franchise clubs. Coincidence?  Doubt it.

Would think we're at least planning for worst case scenario with sponsors leaving, less members, lower crowds and a horrible draw from a commercial perspective.

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10 minutes ago, Macca said:

I don't read it that way at all LH. 

More so that the AFL are wondering why we've dropped away so quickly this season

Maybe there's some issues that we're not privy to and it looks to me that we've been summoned rather than asking for handouts.

Can't be sure though but I'll be surprised if we don't post another profit this season (that would make it 10 profitable years from the last 11)

I think the article says that clubs that get AFL assistance, present to the Commission on a 'rotating basis'.  It may just have been our turn or we may have been 'summoned' as you say because our year has been so bad.

I agree we will probably post a profit this year.  But I suspect the financial projections for 2020 don't look too good, especially if Jaguar don't sign up again. Loss of Bentleigh club pokie revenue (I think it is 2020), membership drop off, smaller crowds, and the sponsor impact of downgraded fixture and FTA time slots. 

So we may be asking for help on various fronts to ward off a nasty financial result in 2020.

Edit: @Lord Nev just saw your post about 2020 revenues.  Fully agree.

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It's just the general meeting that clubs getting handouts from the AFL have to attend. Nothing dramatic except the fact that we were already a charity case before this year. Probably come out of it as the Gold Coast Demons.

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1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

I think the article says that clubs that get AFL assistance, present to the Commission on a 'rotating basis'.  It may just have been our turn or we may have been 'summoned' as you say because our year has been so bad.

I agree we will probably post a profit this year.  But I suspect the financial projections for 2020 don't look too good, especially if Jaguar don't sign up again. Loss of Bentleigh club pokie revenue (I think it is 2020), membership drop off, smaller crowds, and the sponsor impact of downgraded fixture and FTA time slots. 

So we may be asking for help on various fronts to ward off a nasty financial result in 2020.

I suspect that we are being questioned about our on field year and what steps the club will be taking to right the ship

The rest of what you say may well be true but I'm not sure that is what the meeting is about. Although it could be. 

The last time we posted a loss was in 2013. On the back of a 2nd consecutive disastrous season and after the tanking fiasco.  For the record we received a one-off  $1.4Million grant that year but were fined $500k for being found not guilty re tanking.  Hefty fine for no guilt.

With Roos & Jackson at the helm we immediately started posting profits again.  As far as I can make out there haven't been any more handouts (despite what the masses want to believe)

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17 minutes ago, Soidee said:

If it’s financial, then that’s woeful!  Didn’t they sell off the gaming? They should be flush with money.  Jackson must be chocking on his cornflakes.

membership will take a hit until members see tangible change at the start of 2020.  Cannot keep forking out dollars when the players on this list are mediocre with their comfort zone.

bentleigh Club will collapse soon after the pokies come out. Wonder if that is our plan. To then sell off the land for residential housing. Not sure we could be that clever though.

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37 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Already lots of talk the GC have been approved for PP pick 2. Classic MFC luck.

They can't of been approved yet 'Nev'...

In the end it's a commission decision and they don't meet until after the season.

They haven't always gone along and rubber stamped Gill's wishes either.

Not saying they won't get it, just that it hasn't been approved.

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10 minutes ago, rjay said:

They can't of been approved yet 'Nev'...

In the end it's a commission decision and they don't meet until after the season.

They haven't always gone along and rubber stamped Gill's wishes either.

Not saying they won't get it, just that it hasn't been approved.

Might not have been rubber stamped yet, but you can lock it in.

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18 minutes ago, Supermercado said:

It's just the general meeting that clubs getting handouts from the AFL have to attend. Nothing dramatic except the fact that we were already a charity case before this year. Probably come out of it as the Gold Coast Demons.

Or the Tassie Devils given the story about the team coming on in 2022...

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The AFL is looking at giving Gold Coast access to the NT as the NGA zone, maybe they want to see if we're happy now to give up the games we play there? It might well be to see if we are financially stable enough to exist without those extra funds? 

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I would imagine the AFL are issuing a please explain.."we gave you everything. ..and you still [censored] it all up !! What gives??"

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