Jump to content
  • Podcast:      

Sign in to follow this  
Demonland

Dees to meet with AFL Commission after disastrous 2019

Recommended Posts

30 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Or the Tassie Devils given the story about the team coming on in 2022...

If that was true (and if Dwayne says it I can't help but be suspicious) they'd already have to split loyalties between Hobart and Launceston, surely they won't want to confuse the issue even more with a third faction of fans. Not a great time to be - or about to be - a broke Victorian club that relies on handouts and selling games interstate.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
55 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

At least next year we'll be hosting the Queens Birthday and Anzac Eve.

Lets hope we have good early season form then to capitalise on this 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, DubDee said:

What a friggen rabble we are

It’s a complete beat up. 

Read the last line of the article, where it says every club that receives funding from the AFL presents to the commission on a rotating basis.

I assume we are just there to plead our case to retain pick 2

  • Like 6

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

It’s a complete beat up. 

Read the last line of the article, where it says every club that receives funding from the AFL presents to the commission on a rotating basis.

I assume we are just there to plead our case to retain pick 2

I was about to post the same thing....

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I hear we are asking for a few more NT games as the dollars are so nice.

Rumor is swirling that we are also changing our name to the Melbourne Nomads, and making our jumper all-white as it makes signalling surrender a bit easier. OFC that will happen only if our proposed merger with Gold Coast gets knocked back

We might also put our hand up for the China game from next year, and will be gifting any sponsorship money to relationship counselling so we can take over the mantle of "The Family Club"

 

 

 

 

 

 

:D

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 minutes ago, ding said:

I hear we are asking for a few more NT games as the dollars are so nice.

Rumor is swirling that we are also changing our name to the Melbourne Nomads, and making our jumper all-white as it makes signalling surrender a bit easier. OFC that will happen only if our proposed merger with Gold Coast gets knocked back

We might also put our hand up for the China game from next year, and will be gifting any sponsorship money to relationship counselling so we can take over the mantle of "The Family Club"

 

 

 

 

 

 

:D

 

I’ve been told Gold Coast didn’t support the merger as they don’t want to be associated with the Melbourne rabble. 

Edited by Ethan Tremblay
  • Haha 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
46 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

I would imagine the AFL are issuing a please explain.."we gave you everything. ..and you still [censored] it all up !! What gives??"

But the AFL didn't really give us everything did they bub?  It's just another footy myth.  More lies.

A myth that those with an agenda will happily believe.  You and others should take the time to read our annual reports.  10 profitable years from the last 11 doesn't make sense for a club that has been mostly poor on the field

But we've actually been well protected financially when taking into account the largesse amounts from Foundation Hero's,  Pokies ($4Million - $5Million net profit per year) and the NT money (800k per game)

But old habits die hard and we spent many years associating big financial losses with poor onfield results.  Or vice-versa

Having said all that I do have concerns about the income streams that can replace the Pokies money.  Hope they've got a good plan.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
52 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

It’s a complete beat up. 

Read the last line of the article, where it says every club that receives funding from the AFL presents to the commission on a rotating basis.

I assume we are just there to plead our case to retain pick 2

We sell games to NT and still need to be propped up by the AFL. 

Rabble

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, Macca said:

But the AFL didn't really give us everything did they bub?  It's just another footy myth.  More lies.

A myth that those with an agenda will happily believe.  You and others should take the time to read our annual reports.  10 profitable years from the last 11 doesn't make sense for a club that has been mostly poor on the field

But we've actually been well protected financially when taking into account the largesse amounts from Foundation Hero's,  Pokies ($4Million - $5Million net profit per year) and the NT money (800k per game)

But old habits die hard and we spent many years associating big financial losses with poor onfield results.  Or vice-versa

Having said all that I do have concerns about the income streams that can replace the Pokies money.  Hope they've got a good plan.

The plan was to be successful on-field, make finals consistently and increase our membership based. Given our membership base will slip next season, I’d say we’ve already failed. I’m seriously hoping for a big-time rebound next season. 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
55 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

It’s a complete beat up. 

Read the last line of the article, where it says every club that receives funding from the AFL presents to the commission on a rotating basis.

I assume we are just there to plead our case to retain pick 2

Having thought about this a bit more, doesn't every club receive funding from the AFL? 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

At least next year we'll be hosting the Queens Birthday and Anzac Eve.

No we won’t. Pretty sure we will get Anzac Eve but remain away on Queen’s Birthday so that from 2021 onwards we’re home in one and away in one each year. 

56 minutes ago, Demons11 said:

It’s a complete beat up. 

Read the last line of the article, where it says every club that receives funding from the AFL presents to the commission on a rotating basis.

I assume we are just there to plead our case to retain pick 2

Agreed. 

A complete non-story.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I suspect the underlying purpose is to obtain finance from the AFL to assist our search for a definitive home base

  • Like 6
  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

10 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

The plan was to be successful on-field, make finals consistently and increase our membership based. Given our membership base will slip next season, I’d say we’ve already failed. I’m seriously hoping for a big-time rebound next season. 

Is this official or what you want or wish for?

To replace $4Million - $5Million net profit from pokies would take a hefty increase in membership.  Unless they were the premium type and thousands of them.

Would have thought the club would invest the sale of the pokies into another revenue stream. 

Got anything official that you can direct us to ET?

Edited by Macca

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, joeboy said:

I suspect the underlying purpose is to obtain finance from the AFL to assist our search for a definitive home base

Finally someone who has a clue.

Good work as usual joeboy.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
9 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Having thought about this a bit more, doesn't every club receive funding from the AFL? 

Yep ... and some of the successful clubs can receive a larger dividend than the struggling clubs due to the complications associated towards those dividends.

Upwards of $10Million - $12Million per club per year when I last saw the figures.  With no real breakdown so almost impossible to make sense of it all LDvC

Probably done that way purposely is my cynical view.  The GCS & GWS would get close to $25Million - $30Million each per year IMHO.  The membership numbers for both clubs are inflated and what other revenue streams do both clubs have? 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
23 minutes ago, Macca said:

But the AFL didn't really give us everything did they bub?  It's just another footy myth.  More lies.

A myth that those with an agenda will happily believe.  You and others should take the time to read our annual reports.  10 profitable years from the last 11 doesn't make sense for a club that has been mostly poor on the field

Macca ... there is a variable distribution system and there is no doubt we benefit from it more than say West Coast or Essendon. Here's an excellent analysis:

Teams who receive the most structural support unsurprisingly includes the expansion teams GWS and Gold Coast, as well as the four small-market Victorian teams in St Kilda, the Bulldogs, North Melbourne and Melbourne.

The good news is that we are the best of the bottom four Melbourne clubs.

http://www.hpnfooty.com/?p=31622

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
26 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Macca ... there is a variable distribution system and there is no doubt we benefit from it more than say West Coast or Essendon. Here's an excellent analysis:

Teams who receive the most structural support unsurprisingly includes the expansion teams GWS and Gold Coast, as well as the four small-market Victorian teams in St Kilda, the Bulldogs, North Melbourne and Melbourne.

The good news is that we are the best of the bottom four Melbourne clubs.

http://www.hpnfooty.com/?p=31622

Yeah but the extra revenue in the dividend has factors such as when clubs like us are at a disadvantage with regards to the general draw,  blockbuster games,  free-to-air games etc

We get shafted and then they give us some extra dollars to shut us up.  Been that way for years.  The smaller clubs are kept at arms length and then made out to be on drip feed.

For instance ... the smaller clubs get lumbered with having to play extra home games against low drawing interstate teams.  Year after year after year.  Meanwhile,  the big clubs get to play each other on a regular basis.  Year after year after year.

Revenue gets effected because of the above - free-to-air exposure,  sponsorship,  visibility,  membership etc etc.

And the gullible footy public buy into it like it is somehow connected to a competitive edge. 

Then some of our own supporters who are angry towards our current on field plight buy-in as well.

There are a lot of lies in footy DJ - you should know that.

Edited by Macca
  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

16 minutes ago, Macca said:

Yeah but the extra revenue in the dividend has factors such as when clubs like us are at a disadvantage with regards to the general draw,  blockbuster games,  free-to-air games etc

We get shafted and then they give us some extra dollars to shut us up.  Been that way for years.  The smaller clubs are kept at arms length and then made out to be on drip feed.

And the gullible footy public buy into it like it is somehow connected to a competitive edge. 

 And our own supporters who are angry and hateful towards our current on field plight buy-in as well. 

There are a lot of lies in footy DJ - you should know that.

yep....bring on the 17 round fixture

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Any chance we can put this on the agenda ...

68390145_10156317962011440_5359883842675015680_o.thumb.jpg.9d543f327c9593049fb19f8aaa0af9d0.jpg

 

  • Like 3
  • Angry 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, Diamond_Jim said:

yep....bring on the 17 round fixture

Not going to happen DJ.

The big clubs wouldn't stand for it.  Their double-up blockbusters add a lot to their bottom lines'. 

In a general sense there is too much revenue at stake to ever see a 17 game season.

Meanwhile,  the gap between the small clubs and the big clubs gets wider every year. 

We as a club need to work the draft,  salary cap and coaching to our advantage.  I have always thought that a club like ours needs to at least have one of the best coaches in the system. 

But for the most part we continually appoint rookie coaches.  And that is not a knock on Goodwin,  it's just that a club like ours needs to find an advantage or 2. 

We are,  by default,  behind the 8 ball in so many areas.  Other clubs tick the boxes as a matter of course.  That won't be changing in a hurry either.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, titan_uranus said:

No we won’t. Pretty sure we will get Anzac Eve but remain away on Queen’s Birthday so that from 2021 onwards we’re home in one and away in one each year. 

 

Thanks for clarifying that.

Makes complete sense to alternate each year.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Sign in to follow this  

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • Social Media

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles

    QUEENS BIRTHDAY BLOCKBUSTER by Bananabender

    A little known fact for Victorians is that Queenslanders don’t celebrate the Queen's Birthday in June but rather in October. The scheduled date on this year’s calendar is 5 October, 2020. However, I have a suggestion for Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk and that is to move the date forward a month and a half to this Saturday so that the coming clash of traditional rivals, Melbourne and Collingwood, continues a longstanding tradition of our game — the Queen’s Birthday Blockbuster. Her Majesty w

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    THE TORRENS THUMPING 2.0 by George on the Outer

    Once again the banks of Adelaide’s Torrens River witnessed the Melbourne Football Club handing out another on-field thumping to its opponent. This time the hapless victim was North Melbourne and given it was only the club’s second win against them since 2007, it was a very satisfying outcome. The Demons got off to a slow start once again, looking listless from their four day break, a situation that wasn’t helped by Sam Weideman and Christian Petracca missing easy set shots. At the first bre

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    THE 2020 EQUATION by Whispering Jack

    The 2020 equation is simple for the Melbourne Football Club – it must keep winning and it must take some big scalps during the second half of the season without dropping games against the lesser lights. The Demons have gone down this season to the 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th teams on the ladder including twice by less than a goal in games that could easily have gone the other way. Against that, they have beaten 11th, 13th, 14th and 18th and though they thumped the Crows during the week, the

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    THE TORRENS THUMPING by George on the Outer

    THE TORRENS THUMPING - LEAVING THE DEMONS BEHIND That headline might lead a reader to think that Melbourne had lost badly in Adelaide but no!  It was actually the MFC which left it’s demons from the previous week behind as it applied the blowtorch to the Crows in the final quarter of their match at the Adelaide Oval and went on their merry way to record a 51 point win before their biggest crowd of the year (even if they were mainly hostile). Much had been made in the media about t

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    STATE OF DEESASTER by the Oracle

    Melbourne’s circus caravan rolls into Adelaide on Wednesday night, an event that will put shivers up the spine of every Crows’ supporter as they look directly into the face of disaster. The flakey Demons left their home town a month ago and proceeded to rough up the Gold Coast Suns and Hawthorn in Sydney before moving on to the sunny Queensland where they missed by a bee’s diaphragm against the more or less local second-on-ladder Brisbane Lions. Then, they had to butter up against the top t

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    OVERPOWERED by George on the Outer

    In a dismal display against Port Adelaide, Melbourne showed it had learnt nothing from their previous week’s loss to Brisbane. Port, in contrast, after losing to St.Kilda, addressed their failings, and as a result made the Demons look like a second-rate side.  Melbourne failed to score a goal in the first quarter, and the first time it seriously troubled the goal umpire was saved until a minute before half-time.  Did it get any better?  No with their meagre three goals for the sec

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    DESPERATION OF THE MOMENT by Whispering Jack

    Melbourne’s recent win against Hawthorn highlighted how important Max Gawn’s ruck domination is for the team. A week later however, that domination continued but its effect was totally blunted by the Brisbane Lions midfield and, as a consequence, what could have been an easy win over a leading AFL contender turned into a disappointing but close loss and a sense of desperation now looms over the club as the halfway mark of the season approaches. This week’s opponent in Port Adelaide also und

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    THE FOUR POINT FAIL by George on the Outer

    Melbourne went down by 4 points in a thrilling finish against Brisbane, but they failed by more than the 4 points.     They also failed to score the 4 points necessary to keep them in the race for the finals, and now find themselves sitting 6 points outside the top 8, but effectively 2 games outside (even though they have a game in hand).   The Demons had more than enough opportunities to win.  Six very easy shots on goal failed to bother the goal umpire with a major and ultimate

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    NORTH OF THE BORDER PART 2 by The Oracle

    The travelling COVID circus moves north of the border yet again and, unless at some time in the near future, Papua New Guinea opens its borders, this could be the last time this phenomenon happens. And as fortune would dictate, the resurgent Demons are walking directly into the sights of the locals from the bright lights of Brizvegas to Carrara - the scene of some long-forgotten (and deservedly so) battles with one of the Lions’ former incarnations, namely, the Brisbane Bears. But unli

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    ON THE NOSE by George on the Outer

    One of the Hawthorn Football Club’s valued sponsors is Azep® Nasal Spray and given the thrashing handed out to the Hawks in today’s game, it would appear that they need a huge supply of the sponsor’s product because they are simply on the nose. This condition was caused by the sheer dominance of the Demons, led magnificently by skipper Max Gawn with 27 hitouts and 22 disposals including two clearances. Around him in the middle were Christian Petracca with 29 touches, Clayton Oliver (also on

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

    THE PREMIER LEAGUE by Whispering Jack

    So the new man under the pump is Clarko, which demonstrates how sad but predictable the football media is these days. In an age where each AFL team’s form can be topsy turvy and unpredictability is the order of the day, the coach of a team that has played five out of the top six teams from the previous season and sits with a 3/3 win loss record is this week’s whipping boy.   This comes admittedly on the back of a bad fortnight from the Hawks who in recent years have exhibited an enormous

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Previews

    SUNSMART by George on the Outer

    If you don’t want to get sunburnt, you follow the Sunsmart rules.  Melbourne took the advice and with their season on the line, avoided getting burnt by the Gold Coast Suns, with a gripping 17 point win. It was a match that could have gone either way, with the sides within a kick of each other for all but the final minutes of the final quarter. Melbourne had stretched the lead earlier in the game to 18 points, but that quickly evaporated to a neck and neck race to the finish.  Finally,

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Match Reports

×
×
  • Create New...