PREGAME: Rd 02 vs Geelong

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43 minutes ago, Graeme Yeats' Mullet said:

Finally Spargo gets some much needed time at Casey

Yep Goody must read Demonland and PF! Advocated this for a long time now. Overated on this forum but underskilled! Now next to go ANB!!

[Gorgoroth 12,317]

21 minutes ago, JV7 said:

Because he's speed was so damaging in that passage of play in the last qrt where he burst through the middle, had no idea what to do then got pinged holding the ball & stupidly booted it away & gave away 50

Every time. The faster his feet move the dumber he gets and he ain’t starting from a high place.

[The Chief 636]

Wagner pretty unlucky. Frost’s selection looks like coach’s  conceding we lacked speed last week and Cats looked very quick. 

[Winter Dan 425]

Don't mind the options of: 

- Frost on Rohan, or

- May playing sweeper in def.

[nosoupforme 3,085]

Good changes with Kolo coming in  with his great foot skills an asset will be handy. l believe for forward pressure and smarts around the goals Lockhart could be damaging if VFL form of 2018 is a guideline, had exceptional form last year.  Although he has been selected in the Backline.

Not surprised with Frosty staying put as he could be used for support in the backline or a pinch hit on the forward line with his speed and his body strength. Hoping he doesn't have a brain freeze.

Slightly surprised with Spargo's omission he didn't do much wrong and was one of our better players against PA. FD's call. 

Great to see Steven May included and wish him all the best. Good luck Dees!

[beelzebub 22,225]

May the Force , be with us

[Jaded No More 57,800]

51 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Frost doesn’t wear 30 on his jumper. 

Yes he had a bad one last week but he wasn’t alone. He played some good footy last year.

I agree with Wise he is probably there to pinch hit in the ruck and play a bit forward.  

He hasn’t taken a single ruck contest last year. You think he’d start on Saturday?

[Wiseblood 24,636]

1 minute ago, Jaded said:

He hasn’t taken a single ruck contest last year. You think he’d start on Saturday?

I floated the idea of him rucking as well, simply because it's the only logical explanation.  Maybe we want to play Tom and Weid as permanent forwards this weekend, with Frost playing a third tall and giving Max the chop out in the ruck?  It's not ideal, but they may see Frost as being a little more athletic and strong through the body to go with Ratugolea?  I don't know.

But I can't see us playing May, Oscar AND Frost together in the backline as outside of Hawkins and Ratugolea they don't have a great deal of height.

[Jaded No More 57,800]

1 minute ago, Wiseblood said:

I floated the idea of him rucking as well, simply because it's the only logical explanation.  Maybe we want to play Tom and Weid as permanent forwards this weekend, with Frost playing a third tall and giving Max the chop out in the ruck?  It's not ideal, but they may see Frost as being a little more athletic and strong through the body to go with Ratugolea?  I don't know.

But I can't see us playing May, Oscar AND Frost together in the backline as outside of Hawkins and Ratugolea they don't have a great deal of height.

I don’t mind the idea of him rucking which is why I said that if he could, he would add some value to the team. 

However he clearly can’t ruck or I’m sure the footy department would have given it a go over summer. 

If they prefer to play our best forward and his bum foot in the ruck over Frost, it says to me that they aren’t interested in Frost’s rucking abilities or lack there of. 

[Earl Hood 5,789]

Lockhart! Is it panic stations? 

[Wiseblood 24,636]

Just now, Jaded said:

I don’t mind the idea of him rucking which is why I said that if he could, he would add some value to the team. 

However he clearly can’t ruck or I’m sure the footy department would have given it a go over summer. 

If they prefer to play our best forward and his bum foot in the ruck over Frost, it says to me that they aren’t interested in Frost’s rucking abilities or lack there of. 

And what of Preuss?  If Frost does ruck, isn't this the reason why we traded for Preuss?  Or don't they believe he has the mobility to go with Ratugolea?

Too many questions, not enough clear answers.

[Wiseblood 24,636]

2 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

Lockhart! Is it panic stations? 

[Jaded No More 57,800]

Just now, Wiseblood said:

And what of Preuss?  If Frost does ruck, isn't this the reason why we traded for Preuss?  Or don't they believe he has the mobility to go with Ratugolea?

Too many questions, not enough clear answers.

Agreed. And the problem remains that I still need to watch Frost be the world’s dumbest footballer on Saturday. 

To me Preuss needs to get his fitness sorted before he goes near the AFL. His role is to help Max have a rest, not have Max carry him around. 

[DemonOX 8,530]

No Preuss again. WTF. 

[Graeme Yeats' Mullet 6,281]

1 hour ago, JV7 said:

Because he's speed was so damaging in that passage of play in the last qrt where he burst through the middle, had no idea what to do then got pinged holding the ball & stupidly booted it away & gave away 50

I'm not advocating this as an ideal scenario by any stretch. But we were witches hats in large parts of the game last week

[DubDee 20,570]

Frost is a limited footballer but is capable of decent footy in defence. One thing we all know is that he is a headless chook up fwd.

for the love of god don’t play him fwd. 

[grey wolf 226]

The fat fella gets another chance ...... ???

[Demon Premonition 135]

Sam Frost – 7
As expected, Frost had the job on Tom Hawkins and the much-improved defender was very solid. The Cats forward booted two goals, but both majors came from set-shots where Frost's teammates did not do a good enough job of supporting him. Crucial to Melbourne's finals hopes.

i think we are overlooking the simple explanation on Frost, he was more than solid on Tom Hawkins in final last year. As we all know we have been on the wrong side of Hawkins more than a few times over the year. I think Frost will have first crack, he has excellent physical attributes to go with him and allows May to be play more of a Lever type role which was clearly missing last week.

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2 hours ago, Jaded said:

How Frost is still in the team is beyond me. He. Is. Awful. 

If he could at least offer us something in the ruck I would understand. But he only offers turnovers. 

I suspect that 4 changes would be too many. I think Kielty would have offered more than Frost.

He will get his chance. But not this week.

[Laughing Goat 308]

50 minutes ago, DemonOX said:

No Preuss again. WTF. 

Wonder what Preussey is thinking now....... & If ever Max needed a hand, its right now.

Feel for C Wagner & M Hore who's parents went through the elation of watching their sons being presented with their guernsey's last week & this week, their whole world's just caved in.

Good job Goodwin.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Lockhart intrigues me, I would have kept Wagner instead of one of Frost or O. McDonald.

Spargo and Hore had to go.

[chook fowler 18,224]

Does anyone have any idea where Lockhart will play. He’s named in the back pocket but I thought he was more a midfield/forward type.

[Winners at last 4,726]

To those who suggested that Frost could pinch hit in the ruck ... You obviously didn't see or don't remember when this was tried a few years ago. He was worse then useless.

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3 hours ago, Jaded said:

How Frost is still in the team is beyond me. He. Is. Awful. 

If he could at least offer us something in the ruck I would understand. But he only offers turnovers. 

Whilst he isn't the most talented I'd rather him in the side over OMac at Geelong. OMac lost us the game in the space of 10-15 minutes when playing on Hawkins last year. Frost has some pace and size to negate Hawkins. May or Oscar can then zone off with one or the other to play on Ratugolea.

[Brownie 5,175]

3 hours ago, Beetle said:

Has the football IQ of a packet of twisties.

Chicken twisties