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It raises the eyebrows, not saying it is not a good idea but it is certainly unorthodox. I think stability and knowledge that we have the coach is a powerful message to send, not to mention this still is a developing list. Offer Goody a 3 year deal and back him in. 

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On 11/29/2018 at 12:55 PM, hemingway said:

Its an interesting one.

Remember that its only half a season ago that there were more critics than supporters and even the media were asking questions.

Goodwin's improved status came on the back of half a dozen games. 

Cycles and perception of performance are a constantly moving feast and the critics will be back in a flash if team performance is below expectations or Goody's game plan is superseded by new game plans ?

Based on those half dozen games do you reward Goodwin with a long term contract such as 6 years or go for a more conservative period of 3 or 4 years and maybe throw in the option to renew at the end of that period ?

Perhaps Goodwin himself may prefer a shorter contract ? Its unlikely but possible. 

Is it possible that the Demons could go off the rails or simply not make the improvement everyone is now predicting. Particularly given that many believe that anything short of a flag will be a fail.

What happens if Goodwin himself has some sort of crisis and a replacement needs to be found ?

Giving him a long term contract such as 5 or 6 years would be a vote of confidence and provide stability. At the same time, a long term contract may encourage other members of his coaching panel to ply their trade elsewhere with more opportunities. Is the coaching panel hiding a potential top-line coach?

Long term contracts will not stop dissatisfaction and rumours (both inside and outside the club) if the Dees performance tails off.

What happens if the President and the Board changes or there is a falling out between President/Board and Goodwin a la Norm Smith?

You have to be very happy with a coach or any employee to offer a long term contract. The are many variables and things are in a constant state of flux. You have to be happy to the point of not having any doubts that he is the right guy.

Are we sure he is the right guy and will you still feel the same way if expectations are not met in 2019?

 

Good points of thought and discussion, hemingway. Goody is bringing the packet of biscuits as you say. I still wish that Paul Roos had the energy to be there, too; both working away at the task of a Premiership run/series. Roos' passion for the Club stood out.

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Did I write that ?

Amazing how you forget what you have written.

Sounds like a complete stranger not old Ernie.

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13 minutes ago, hemingway said:

Did I write that ?

Amazing how you forget what you have written.

Sounds like a complete stranger not old Ernie.

“Why did i walk into this room...”

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38 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

“Why did i walk into this room...”

""We can't ever go back to old things or try and get the old kick out of something or find things the way we remembered them. We have them as we remember them and they are fine and wonderful and we have to go on and have other things because the old things are nowhere except in our minds now.""

Only problem is that I have forgotten when I wrote this.

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10 minutes ago, hemingway said:

""We can't ever go back to old things or try and get the old kick out of something or find things the way we remembered them. We have them as we remember them and they are fine and wonderful and we have to go on and have other things because the old things are nowhere except in our minds now.""

Only problem is that I have forgotten when I wrote this.

Thank you Ernest... you lift the tone as always. May I remind you of another of your famous quotations...

“Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut.”
 
PS: No aspersions of course on your character of course Ernest... BTW been fishing lately
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29 minutes ago, hemingway said:

""We can't ever go back to old things or try and get the old kick out of something or find things the way we remembered them. We have them as we remember them and they are fine and wonderful and we have to go on and have other things because the old things are nowhere except in our minds now.""

Only problem is that I have forgotten when I wrote this.

Screaming at Clouds!! ️ 

 

Granpa Simpson

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I stress I don't really understand the detail, but wouldn't this arrangement mean that Simon Goodwin is being engaged like most employees from top to bottom in any organisation? If that's correct, it would seem to me the alternative, traditional model of the fixed-term contract might be the model that is out-of-step with modern best practice.

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The coach salary as I understand it is part of the soft cap.

Does anyone know if we have traditionally spent the whole of the soft cap?

Of course for the big clubs if they exceed the soft cap they just pay a dollar for dollar equalisation tax

 

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On 2/12/2019 at 1:12 PM, hemingway said:

""We can't ever go back to old things or try and get the old kick out of something or find things the way we remembered them. We have them as we remember them and they are fine and wonderful and we have to go on and have other things because the old things are nowhere except in our minds now.""

Only problem is that I have forgotten when I wrote this.

You old drunk...

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On 3/8/2019 at 8:40 PM, Diamond_Jim said:

The coach salary as I understand it is part of the soft cap.

Does anyone know if we have traditionally spent the whole of the soft cap?

Of course for the big clubs if they exceed the soft cap they just pay a dollar for dollar equalisation tax

 

We probably would have paid under the soft cap while Neeld was coach

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The perfect coach to take us forward. Absolutely stoked with this news. 

Great time to announce it as well! 

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The video of the players embracing Goody after the announcement is something i have not seen for a very long time between a player and coach. By looking at that the players have embraced and enjoyed working under him. Theres a special connection in there that i dont think many clubs have.

Enjoying this journey Goody is taking us on.

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Best part was Todd Viney taking the [censored] with his hug at end.

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Absolutely brilliant.

23 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

The video of the players embracing Goody after the announcement is something i have not seen for a very long time between a player and coach. By looking at that the players have embraced and enjoyed working under him. Theres a special connection in there that i dont think many clubs have.

Enjoying this journey Goody is taking us on.

 

Video here for those who havent seen it

 

https://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/2019-03-19/coach-signs-on

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Today is a goody day!! Well done Melbourne.  Could not be happier with this.

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Now thats a coach the players truly love!

 

Haha Todd at the end that was gold

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We're developing a pretty decent list of players but make no mistake, one of the strongest points about Melbourne is the coach.

This is a person who can lead men. This is the most important building block for success.

Think about the successful coaches of the recent and past eras ( Norm Smith )

We are so lucky to have this guy in charge.

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Disappointed when Perty said he was the right man to take the club forward. He should have referred to him as a 'guy'.

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Good to have this done before the start of the season.

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