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Love how grounded Hogan is about it as well - mentioned that, while disappointed, Alex Johnson just did his sixth ACL so he can't really complain.  It's a great attitude to have and will hold him in g

McQueen
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It was leaked last night to Basil Zempilas who reported it on 7 news Perth. Navicular. The same injury which Trengove was decimated by but Tim Smith recovered from in short time frame. Finge

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No losing to Saints and Geelong x2 did that

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4 minutes ago, —coach— said:

Oops sorry about that, stupidly trusted wiki which gave dimensions fence to fence not playing surface. Ground is definitely narrower though.

Is it? Weird they would build a brand new ground and not make it the same dimensions as the g.

If it is indeed narrower that really helps u as the width of the g makes our aggressive press less effective as an attacking weapon and more easily penetrated by opponents on the rebound 

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2 hours ago, drdrake said:

Nasher, something is causing this, stress fractures in feet are rare but we seem to have a number of these, we have 3 out now.  To me it is foot wear, surface and training loads that cause these types of injuries.  

There MUST be data available re type of shoe and ground hardness.

IF necessary we need to urgently engage a podiatrist to get to the bottom of this.

Ground?

Footwear?

Training loads?

We have doctors, surgeons, physios posting on this site - any podiatrists / exercise physiologists?

2 hours ago, Jaded said:

It is extremely depressing and mentally exhausting supporting this club. Not to mention financially draining. Sigh. 

Look on the bright side Jaded   -  think of the price of finals tickets you will be saving :-((

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2 minutes ago, monoccular said:

 

Look on the bright side Jaded   -  think of the price of finals tickets you will be saving :-((

For 2 years now I've forked over $700 for a membership that comes with guaranteed finals tickets access. Smart move that was. 

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1 hour ago, MSFebey said:

Foot injuries don’t just go away either, Clark, Trengove, AVB and Viney have gone on for years. Let’s hope it’s not the case with Stretch or Hogan too. Something not quite right for sure

TMac, Frost last year, Jack Grimes... I'm sure there are others

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Meth Coast KPD's Mcgovern and Barrass aren't great at ground level.

As others have said be less predictable Tmac and a medium mobile forward line may be the way to go if not bring in Weid to play deep on Barrass and try and force Mcgovern to do what he hates and run with Tmac

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1 hour ago, rjay said:

Would be ok if we had some decent small forwards.

We're struggling here and it's one reason our forward efficiency isn't great.

Definitely no Pedo, but I think Weid has to come in to take the 2nd ruck role...

Max has been cooked for a few weeks now and he needs a good rest during the game.

If Tommy was our only key forward he wouldn't be able to give a chop out and I wouldn't like to see Harmes having to do it again.

Okay

No hope for Kent or Bugg?

Leave Jeffy in - I'd try Tyson down there, too

Hannan? But, he's been out of form...

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8 minutes ago, gOLLy said:

All the keyboard warriors that wanted him traded. How much does this hurt.

The cynic in me might say straight swap................ but i say, why would you want to, really???

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4 hours ago, DemonLad5 said:

it's important to get games into Weid, but Pederson IMO will give us more output at the moment

I dont think either of them are viable key forward option at this point unfortunately.  Decoys for T-Mac at best

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46 minutes ago, Pennant St Dee said:

Meth Coast KPD's Mcgovern and Barrass aren't great at ground level.

As others have said be less predictable Tmac and a medium mobile forward line may be the way to go if not bring in Weid to play deep on Barrass and try and force Mcgovern to do what he hates and run with Tmac

Just go with T-Mac and a medium/small forward line.

As unfortunate as Hulk's injury is, sometimes things happen for a reason.

The impending return of Melksham and and an available Kent kicking a few goals on the weekend might be just the tonic we need to get over the Eagles & the Greater Western Circus and secure a finals berth.

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9 minutes ago, Rusty Nails said:

Just go with T-Mac and a medium/small forward line.

As unfortunate as Hulk's injury is, sometimes things happen for a reason.

The impending return of Melksham and and an available Kent kicking a few goals on the weekend might be just the tonic we need to get over the Eagles & the Greater Western Circus and secure a finals berth.

Well if we lower our eyes when entering the F50 and TRY and pass to a team mate, instead of the perennial long bomb, we are a chance.

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4 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

Numerous posters on here have been saying for weeks lets give Hogan a week off and get him right. Unfortunately the idiots in charge didn't do it and now this is the result.

The mind boggles.

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I've got a vibe that he is out of the club, no info, just a vibe - not that he isn't wanted, but the pragmatism of the horse trading at the end of year, is to get some value, but him leaving would be for him on his terms - back to WA of course. 

Personally, I'm happy to have Hogan at the club, and I'm also happy if he chooses to leave - as I am sure what we would get in return would be of great value.

And the only thing I have to base it on is his demeanour - mind you - it may not be about Melbourne (place and club) he may have that demeanour no matter where he is - that is - looks aloof/disinterested/ when he presents in the media.

Anyone else feel the same way?

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1 minute ago, Danelska said:

I've got a vibe that he is out of the club, no info, just a vibe - not that he isn't wanted, but the pragmatism of the horse trading at the end of year, is to get some value, but him leaving would be for him on his terms - back to WA of course. 

Personally, I'm happy to have Hogan at the club, and I'm also happy if he chooses to leave - as I am sure what we would get in return would be of great value.

Anyone else feel the same way?

Yeah I feel the same and you couldn't blame the guy after last year. He looked uncomfortable when asked last night, but maybe that's just me. Anyone else see him on TV? Happy to have him if he finds some consistency against the better teams.

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3 minutes ago, Danelska said:

I've got a vibe that he is out of the club, no info, just a vibe - not that he isn't wanted, but the pragmatism of the horse trading at the end of year, is to get some value, but him leaving would be for him on his terms - back to WA of course. 

Personally, I'm happy to have Hogan at the club, and I'm also happy if he chooses to leave - as I am sure what we would get in return would be of great value.

Anyone else feel the same way?

I don't see any reason to believe he is leaving the Demons...  but Id love to get Lachie Neale from Freo if Hoges did want to go home.

Hes a couple of years older than Hogan though, so they can throw in a 2nd rounder.

 

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3 hours ago, Wiseblood said:

Either way, while it's a real shame to lose Hogan regardless of the what the negative nellies say, our season is far from done and we have the depth to cover it and still make our push for finals.

If it was just Hogan, maybe. But it's not. You cannot take 3 of your key players (Hogan, Viney, Lever are about as "key" as it gets) out of the team and expect to get anything like the same level of performance. If that was the case, then you could argue that Carlton should be in the 8.

I'm as optimistic as they come, but I'm also a realist, and this is just a bridge too far. 

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12 minutes ago, Danelska said:

I've got a vibe that he is out of the club, no info, just a vibe - not that he isn't wanted, but the pragmatism of the horse trading at the end of year, is to get some value, but him leaving would be for him on his terms - back to WA of course. 

Personally, I'm happy to have Hogan at the club, and I'm also happy if he chooses to leave - as I am sure what we would get in return would be of great value.

Anyone else feel the same way?

Didn't he mention on Monday night that he now has more family in Melbourne than he does in Perth and although he likes to get back to WA every now and then desire to get back isn't near what it was.  If you are Fremantle and West Coast you would be mad to trade for him, there is so much uncertainty with this type of injury. 

This is the least to be worried about, getting him over this stress fracture is main priority.  

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