Coburg Lions v Casey Scorpions - VFL Round 1

[Lucifers Hero 37,395]

1 hour ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Money ball has been used at Casey for at least a season or two and I assume it is also used at the MFC.

Have no idea f what it means but I suspect it is simply taking the risk if you have the opportunity to solidly improve the overall progress of the ball in our favour. As you say... take the smart option having regard to risk and reward

If we want to 'change the narrative around our club' (Goodwin's words) 'money ball' is a good phrase to not trot out in public!  Too easily attached to our very recent but darkest, darkest days and worst ever coach.  I cringe whenever I hear it. 

[daisycutter 28,709]

1 minute ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

If we want to 'change the narrative around our club' (Goodwin's words) 'money ball' is a good phrase to not trot out in public!  Too easily attached to our very recent but darkest, darkest days and worst ever coach.  I cringe whenever I hear it. 

as i cringe with the repeated use of "narrative" or that other one "journey"

[DV8 2,271]

23 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

I read this as "Like the look of pretty Weideman". Couldn't concentrate for the rest of the thread.

well, he's pretty little boy, the Weide. no doubt.

[DV8 2,271]

14 hours ago, picket fence said:

Nup In Balic Out HARMES 

 

[old dee 23,109]

40 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

noticed that pedo was top for possessions  (26) and top for marks  (16)

a reasonable day's effort even if oppo was weak

still think we need an extra tall in forward line despite the smalls having a day out against norf

think weid needs to string together a few more good games in the vfl

If he was not BOG he was very close dc. His marking is amazing when he is on song one grab clunk all over. On top of that he was all over the ground no lack of running etc. now admittedly the opposition was not great but he is too good for VFL. 

[Gator 16,921]

54 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

noticed that pedo was top for possessions  (26) and top for marks  (16)

a reasonable day's effort even if oppo was weak

still think we need an extra tall in forward line despite the smalls having a day out against norf

think weid needs to string together a few more good games in the vfl

Pedersen can only play as an onball short ruckman to be effective at AFL level.  He's very ordinary as a stay at home key forward.  He's never kicked more than 3 goals in a game.

Even Bugg's done that on more than one occasion.

I'd like another tall in, but it will be Weideman when they think he's ready.  I hope.

[Diamond_Jim 12,064]

33 minutes ago, old dee said:

If he was not BOG he was very close dc. His marking is amazing when he is on song one grab clunk all over. On top of that he was all over the ground no lack of running etc. now admittedly the opposition was not great but he is too good for VFL. 

His second quarter which was played right in front of me was superb.

In the last quarter (down my end again) he was very useful. His body shape was so different to the rest of the guys as I mentioned during the match. A solid man among the relative adolescent sticks.

Too good for VFL as you say OD but maybe not there for AFL. A bit like JKH I am afraid.

The other dilemna is that with him in the side Casey have too many talls which could in the longer term stunt the growth of the next generation skill wise. Remember the days of Sauntner and Newton ... not suggesting it would be that bad but you need to think about what you are trying to achieve with the reserves team. It may not just be the thrill of winning.

In respect of the Weid if and when he is selected for AFL the seniors could face the same problem when Tom Mc returns.

[old dee 23,109]

44 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

His second quarter which was played right in front of me was superb.

In the last quarter (down my end again) he was very useful. His body shape was so different to the rest of the guys as I mentioned during the match. A solid man among the relative adolescent sticks.

Too good for VFL as you say OD but maybe not there for AFL. A bit like JKH I am afraid.

The other dilemna is that with him in the side Casey have too many talls which could in the longer term stunt the growth of the next generation skill wise. Remember the days of Sauntner and Newton ... not suggesting it would be that bad but you need to think about what you are trying to achieve with the reserves team. It may not just be the thrill of winning.

In respect of the Weid if and when he is selected for AFL the seniors could face the same problem when Tom Mc returns.

As said we need to keep in mind who the reserves were playing yesterday. I was impressed by the Weid for the first time ever but I would want to see that repeated a few more time yet before he is selected for the seniors. As for when T mac returns I would love us to be in the position of having to wonder how we  find a spot for him in the seniors.

[leave it to deever 16,437]

On 4/5/2018 at 8:23 PM, WERRIDEE said:

B: BAKER, KEILTY, WHITE

HB: HUNT, PETTY, J.SMITH

C: C.WAGNER, MAYNARD, STRETCH

HF: BALIC, PEDERSEN, HANNAN

F: SCOTT, WEIDEMAN, T.SMITH

FOLL: KING, BRAYSHAW, KENNEDY HARRIS

IC: GENT, JOHNSTONE, FILIPOVIC, SPARGO, M.LEWIS

18 players available that is a very strong team I think we will give Coburg a 100 point thumping. 

 

Tips for this week please

[WERRIDEE 5,254]

2 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

 

Tips for this week please

Casey by 42 points

[Diamond_Jim 12,064]

Despite the name "Avalon airport Oval" which depicts visions of windswept plains and a near abandoned airfield I see the oval is actually in Werribee backing onto the river. Moreover it is next to Bungie's Hole (not sure what that is).

A night game though so I may give it a miss... but one never knows... some local knowledge on the expected culinary delights might tempt me !

[WERRIDEE 5,254]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-04-09/demon-faces-onegame-ban-for-vfl-hit

[Diamond_Jim 12,064]

5 minutes ago, WERRIDEE said:

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-04-09/demon-faces-onegame-ban-for-vfl-hit

wonder if they have a club like the Primary club in cricket.

Suspended in your first game for a new club... must be some sort of record

[Lil_red_fire_engine 10,374]

Brayshaw named first in official club bests.....A good sign they are seeing the right actions...hopefully not too far away.

[Whispering_Jack 28,096]

The statistics ~

Oskar Baker 1 behind 12 kicks 8 handballs 20 disposals 3 marks 2 tackles 65 dream team points 
Harley Balic 6 goals 1 behind 16 kicks 4 handballs 20 disposals 10 marks 3 tackles 126 dream team points 
Angus Brayshaw 1 goal 11 kicks 16 handballs 27 disposals 5 marks 6 tackles 104 dream team points 
Lachlan Filipovic 3 kicks 7 handballs 10 disposals 2 marks 13 hit outs 42 dream team points 
Mitchell Hannan 3 goals 1 behind 16 kicks 9 handballs 25 disposals 5 marks 1 tackle 100 dream team points 
Jayden Hunt 8 kicks 12 handballs 20 disposals 2 marks 7 tackles 83 dream team points 
Dion Johnstone 1 goal 4 kicks 4 handballs 8 disposals 1 marks 3 tackles 38 dream team points 
Declan Keilty 4 kicks 6 handballs 10 disposals 3 marks 34 dream team points 
Jay Kennedy-Harris 2 goals 1 behind 16 kicks 8 handballs 24 disposals 6 marks 4 tackles 114 dream team points 
Mitch King 6 kicks 3 handballs 9 disposals 2 marks 1 tackle 26 hit outs 56 dream team points 
Mitchell Lewis 1 behind 4 kicks 6 handballs 10 disposals 3 marks 2 tackles 40 dream team points 
Jay Lockhart 1 goal 7 kicks 6 handballs 13 disposals 3 marks 1 tackle 1 hit out 49 dream team points 
Corey Maynard 1 goal 10 kicks 15 handballs 25 disposals 9 marks 1 tackle 91 team points 
Cameron Pedersen 1 goal 20 kicks 5 handballs 25 disposals 15 marks 5 tackles 138 dream team points 
Harrison Petty 7 kicks 6 handballs 13 disposals 4 marks 42 dream team points 
Angus Scott 2 goals 1 behinds 14 kicks 4 handballs 18 disposals 4 marks 76 dream team points 
Joel Smith 4 kicks 5 handballs 9 disposals 3 tackles 39 dream team points 
Timothy Smith 2 goals 4 behinds 12 kicks 12 handballs 24 disposals 6 marks 2 tackles 100 dream team points 
Charlie Spargo 2 goals 0 behinds 8 kicks 9 handballs 17 disposals 5 marks 3 tackles 75 dream team points 
Billy Stretch 1 goal 1 behind 15 kicks 10 handballs 25 disposals 4 marks 5 tackles 102 dream team points 
Corey Wagner 10 kicks 5 handballs 15 disposals 1 mark 3 tackles 55 dream team points 
Samuel Weideman 5 goals 1 behind 8 kicks 8 handballs 16 disposals 5 marks 1 tackle 12 hit outs 98 dream team points 
Mitchell White 7 kicks 4 handballs 11 disposals 2 marks 2 tackles 40 dream team points 

[WERRIDEE 5,254]

 

[WERRIDEE 5,254]

2 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

wonder if they have a club like the Primary club in cricket.

Suspended in your first game for a new club... must be some sort of record

I'm sure Spargo has small mans disease.

[Neitz the Great 525]

1 hour ago, WERRIDEE said:

 

Gee the weed looks good in these. Involved in about 70% of goals I reckon...looks damn impressive.

[whatwhat say what 19,876]

Those highlights would be better if they showed the build up play

[dworship 3,342]

19 minutes ago, DemonAndrew said:

Those highlights would be better if they showed the build up play

If we have all the highlights clearly we have the whole game. We need to pressure the club to put the whole game up.

[BAMF 3,812]

I could watch Weideman line up and kick all day. Such a great technique.

Looks like a number of boys worked hard to get on the end of it in an open goal.

Next week should give us a better indication of how some of the boys are tracking.

[DV8 2,271]

9 hours ago, old dee said:

If he was not BOG he was very close dc. His marking is amazing when he is on song one grab clunk all over. On top of that he was all over the ground no lack of running etc. now admittedly the opposition was not great but he is too good for VFL. 

He is nowadays.

[monoccular 16,509]

41 minutes ago, BAMF said:

I could watch Weideman line up and kick all day. Such a great technique.

Looks like a number of boys worked hard to get on the end of it in an open goal.

Next week should give us a better indication of how some of the boys are tracking.

I looked at the goal highlights and was also most impressed by Weideman’s Kicking technique - always have been since his debut but we had more opportunities to observe it in this clip.

Well done .... I hope he remains at Casey until the powers that be feel he is really ready for AFL ..... but of course I don’t know, could be this week or next month?  

To any who were at the game, how much ruck work did he do and how did he go at it?  Does he look strong enough for ruck work at AFL level this year?

[WERRIDEE 5,254]

http://websites.sportstg.com/round_info.cgi?a=MATCH&fixture=124983425&c=1-118-0-477472-0&pool=1

[DeeSpencer 23,553]

Having watched the highlights I'm starting to think they beat no one but witches hats.

The team work looked very good which is a good sign - although with such a strong AFL component that should be expected, there's not 10 AFL guys and 10 VFL guys who have rarely trained together.

But really - any contest in the video is a big on a small or Casey player zooming past a tentative Coburg player.

For instance King - still early in development for a ruck, Flip - a baby, a Weeds - a key forward who isn't really overly tall or high leaping combined for over 50 hit outs. All the mids got a heap of the ball and shared it around and the forwards walked in to goals.