Training - week commencing 4 April, 2018

[Marco 72]

Did anyone go to training today?Updates on Viney and McDonald please?

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,837]

I hope Hogan trained and trained well today. He hurt his groin last week.

Directly after the game, Lynch interviewed him and he said he'll "hopefully" be good for next week.

[hardtack 10,537]

Is there training at Gosch's on Friday?  I looked on the MFC site and they only have Wednesday listed.  My son and I are heading down tomorrow afternoon for Saturday's game and are hoping to catch a training session.

[Satyriconhome 10,878]

3 minutes ago, hardtack said:

Is there training at Gosch's on Friday?  I looked on the MFC site and they only have Wednesday listed.  My son and I are heading down tomorrow afternoon for Saturday's game and are hoping to catch a training session.

Will let you know bloke

[Whispering_Jack 30,169]

Not from training but I heard that Jack Viney and Tom McDonald have started running again.

Probably means very little.

[Yokozuna 1,004]

Went to training with my 2 year old son, so may have missed a few things, but hally to try and answer questions where I can. 

Hogan trained for the first 2/3 of the session, sometimes in the main group, sometimes doing things off to the side. Left the track earlier though. was told he WILL play though. 

The training itself was pretty basic, but they were working pretty hard and trying to work on some specifics. Could see they were working on their kicking skills, practicing all types ignored kicks in a drill. 

Also spent a fair bit of time in their groups, doing specific work on their areas. Such as backs doing 1 on 1 stuff and practicing punching/ marks etc. 

was really impressed with Oscar in those drills. Surprisingly. Jetta was the best small defender in the 1 on 1's. 

the final drill was more game based with 10 on 10 or so. Practicing pressing up as defenders and trying to cause turnovers, while the forwards were working on quick ball movement, short/ hard passes through the middle and getting out the back or a quick goal. They had to work really hard in this drill as there wasn't much rest. 

Overall was a simple session, but I was impressed with a few. Notably Oscar on defence, weideman also showed me a bit. Looked much bigger and more athletic to me. 

Of the current players in the side, I like harmes and petracca with their speed and power and skill and fritsch trained well too. 

Finally, spoke to my club source. He said that they won't change much this week. Most likely ins are frost and Kent if anything, but they need to find someone to drop (i know many of us have opinions on who that should be) and some of the borderline guys did well last week. Guys such as bugg/ Wagner etc. will always be the ones on the block. 

Also heard that they are very excited with weideman and his progress, so when he is fitter (considering he missed some of the pre season) he will come in as a forward / ruck. 

Apologies for any mistakes as this was done on my phone while the son sleeps!!

[Yokozuna 1,004]

Also, both McDonald and Viney WERE running. 

Hibberd also didn't do the whole session. 

Both he and hogan were being looked after but still did some of the main stuff. 

[DubDee 25,878]

17 minutes ago, Yokozuna said:

Also, both McDonald and Viney WERE running. 

Hibberd also didn't do the whole session. 

Both he and hogan were being looked after but still did some of the main stuff. 

Thanks for the update!!  especially considering you had a 2yo with you,

im surprised the update wasn't punctuated with STOP IT!,   PUT THAT DOWN! and various swear words  

[dazzledavey36 54,946]

29 minutes ago, Yokozuna said:

Went to training with my 2 year old son, so may have missed a few things, but hally to try and answer questions where I can. 

Hogan trained for the first 2/3 of the session, sometimes in the main group, sometimes doing things off to the side. Left the track earlier though. was told he WILL play though. 

The training itself was pretty basic, but they were working pretty hard and trying to work on some specifics. Could see they were working on their kicking skills, practicing all types ignored kicks in a drill. 

Also spent a fair bit of time in their groups, doing specific work on their areas. Such as backs doing 1 on 1 stuff and practicing punching/ marks etc. 

was really impressed with Oscar in those drills. Surprisingly. Jetta was the best small defender in the 1 on 1's. 

the final drill was more game based with 10 on 10 or so. Practicing pressing up as defenders and trying to cause turnovers, while the forwards were working on quick ball movement, short/ hard passes through the middle and getting out the back or a quick goal. They had to work really hard in this drill as there wasn't much rest. 

Overall was a simple session, but I was impressed with a few. Notably Oscar on defence, weideman also showed me a bit. Looked much bigger and more athletic to me. 

Of the current players in the side, I like harmes and petracca with their speed and power and skill and fritsch trained well too. 

Finally, spoke to my club source. He said that they won't change much this week. Most likely ins are frost and Kent if anything, but they need to find someone to drop (i know many of us have opinions on who that should be) and some of the borderline guys did well last week. Guys such as bugg/ Wagner etc. will always be the ones on the block. 

Also heard that they are very excited with weideman and his progress, so when he is fitter (considering he missed some of the pre season) he will come in as a forward / ruck. 

Apologies for any mistakes as this was done on my phone while the son sleeps!!

Dont mind Kent at all.. when hes confidence is up, he can be a dangerous player in our forward 50. Adds far more to the side then what Bugg does.. we forget that he mom played some ripping games in 2016, so I hope he is given a shot at it!

[Yokozuna 1,004]

10 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Thanks for the update!!  especially considering you had a 2yo with you,

im surprised the update wasn't punctuated with STOP IT!,   PUT THAT DOWN! and various swear words  

Ha ha. At this moment he is still pretty calm, give it time though!!!

i did write the post after I got him to sleep in the pram though. Not talented enough to write I think and watch him. 

[Tough Kent 2,137]

I got down there today. Yokozuna did a wonderful summary. Here are some little observations from me:

I watched the re-hab group very closely. They worked with Crossy, Garlo (who did a lot of the work the boys) and a few others. This group consisted of Viney, Tommy Mac, Patty McKenna and Jesse. Jesse looked a bit ginger and seemed to be conscious of a groin/upper leg issue. He moved pretty slowly but later joined the main group and looked okay.

Viney and McDonald worked for about 45 minutes. They did some dynamic stretching,  run throughs, ladder work, kicking, shots at goal and some interval running. It was far from intense and both seemed to be in good spirits. Viney had on these Nike shoes with the most cushioning in a runner I had ever seen. 

Weid is doing all the work with the ruck group now. He spent a lot of time with Flip and Kingy working with Greg Stafford doing agility stuff.

Benny Matthews took the session. It was in beautiful conditions and the mood was very upbeat.

[Pates 9,660]

3 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Dont mind Kent at all.. when hes confidence is up, he can be a dangerous player in our forward 50. Adds far more to the side then what Bugg does.. we forget that he mom played some ripping games in 2016, so I hope he is given a shot at it!

I remember a fair few at the club were picking him to explode last year and he fell really flat. He's got great pace but doesn't see enough of the ball and hasn't been damaging (in the past). But this is a new year so new beginnings, if he's given a chance I hope he takes it.

I still think Brayshaw should be finding a way into the 22 but he's in that bracket of players that are thereabouts.

[What 18,810]

Why are we training on Wednesday if we are playing on a Saturday?

[DeeSpencer 25,713]

19 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

Why are we training on Wednesday if we are playing on a Saturday?

What day do you expect them to train on? I would've thought a light run on Monday to stretch the legs, main session on Wednesday followed by a short sharp skills or touch session on Friday would be the way to structure a week with games on the Saturday's. The Tuesday/Thursday nights doesn't really apply these days.

[What 18,810]

5 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

 The Tuesday/Thursday nights doesn't really apply these days.

Ok, I thought it still did  (just during the day instead of night).  Thats interesting.  

Edited April 4, 2018 by Petraccattack

[DeeSpencer 25,713]

The guys have covered most of what I've seen.

There was a little something about the Weid today. He dived for a mark that ended up trapped between his legs and it looked athletic. He just seems a bit stronger without being bulky or slow. Keen to see him string consistent games in the VFL and then push for an AFL return.

Also liked the look of Balic leading and marking. Quick off the mark and jumps at the ball. He has upside.

Frost did a lot of things well, including some nice kicks in the match simulation.

Gus was using his left and I hope he's encouraged to do so. Becoming a reliable dual sided player is the weapon he needs in his game.

[Marco 72]

Thanks to all for your posts so far

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

1 hour ago, Petraccattack said:

Ok, I thought it still did  (just during the day instead of night).  Thats interesting.  

It is their full-time job after all brohemian.

[Jibroni 5,004]

Good to hear the positive sentiments about the Weed. Can only hope he can turn it on for Casey  and realise the opportunity that lies ahead for him. Great summary Yokono  

[The Chazz 4,077]

6 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Dont mind Kent at all.. when hes confidence is up, he can be a dangerous player in our forward 50. Adds far more to the side then what Bugg does.. we forget that he mom played some ripping games in 2016, so I hope he is given a shot at it!

I know that as recent as about 3 weeks ago, Kent had to do a lot to prove to the football department that he should be even considered for the senior team.

[Cards13 9,117]

Did Salem train? 

[Earl Hood 6,086]

6 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

What day do you expect them to train on? I would've thought a light run on Monday to stretch the legs, main session on Wednesday followed by a short sharp skills or touch session on Friday would be the way to structure a week with games on the Saturday's. The Tuesday/Thursday nights doesn't really apply these days.

Given they are full time professionals I wonder why they aren’t out on the field every day at least in preseason!  What do they do for the six days they train in the preseason months when they need to develop their skills and are not having to analyse their performances or their opposition coming up as might be the case during the season. Anyone know what they do for the other 4 days we don’t see them? I mean you can still fit in a gym session before or after a 1 or 2 hour run around the paddock kicking a ball. How many hours are needed to study the game plan that consists of kicking it forward at all costs? 

[jnrmac 20,084]

39 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

Given they are full time professionals I wonder why they aren’t out on the field every day at least in preseason!  What do they do for the six days they train in the preseason months when they need to develop their skills and are not having to analyse their performances or their opposition coming up as might be the case during the season. Anyone know what they do for the other 4 days we don’t see them? I mean you can still fit in a gym session before or after a 1 or 2 hour run around the paddock kicking a ball. How many hours are needed to study the game plan that consists of kicking it forward at all costs? 

read up...

http://www.injoewetrust.com.au/2016/06/08/day-life-elite-afl-footballer/

 

[Drunkn167 5,093]

Keilty rolled his ankle badly today, hopefully it's not too serious but it doesn't look good atm ?

[Satyriconhome 10,878]

1 hour ago, Earl Hood said:

Given they are full time professionals I wonder why they aren’t out on the field every day at least in preseason!  What do they do for the six days they train in the preseason months when they need to develop their skills and are not having to analyse their performances or their opposition coming up as might be the case during the season. Anyone know what they do for the other 4 days we don’t see them? I mean you can still fit in a gym session before or after a 1 or 2 hour run around the paddock kicking a ball. How many hours are needed to study the game plan that consists of kicking it forward at all costs? 

The modern footy player during the season works six days a week

Weights, physio, ice baths, swimming, gym work, line meetings, life education sessions, game day, recovery sessions, 2 or 3 days outside sessions, promotional and sponsorshio commitments etc etc @Drunkn167 could probably add bits I have missed, but probably against club policy

I joked with Harmes one day, was bemoaning he was booked in for last weights session and would not get away till after 5 after being there since 7 or 8 in the morning, I said 'like a proper job'