Post Match Discussion - Round 2

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

6 minutes ago, Sigil said:

Christ, should the team have given up and let BrisVegas had the lollies, so the MFC Syndrome could have the jollies?

"It's so like Melbourne to roll over and lose against a team like this". We didn't.

"We screwed up our draft picks again". We didn't.

"X Team would have beaten them by eleven billionty goals". They don't exist.

It's bloody frustrating but some of the hyperbole in the game day threads and post discussion are silly. Critical analysis... sure... Critical always about everything MFC... not so much.

 

You're only as good as your next game.

We get frustrated because we see the same mistakes over and over again, and when we make these same mistakes against better opposition we will lose.

The result is almost irrelevant, it's about seeing the team play a certain way and creating habits that will lead to sustained success.

[Hot as Hell 466]

7 minutes ago, Sigil said:

Christ, should the team have given up and let BrisVegas had the lollies, so the MFC Syndrome could have the jollies?

"It's so like Melbourne to roll over and lose against a team like this". We didn't.

"We screwed up our draft picks again". We didn't.

"X Team would have beaten them by eleven billionty goals". They don't exist.

It's bloody frustrating but some of the hyperbole in the game day threads and post discussion are silly. Critical analysis... sure... Critical always about everything MFC... not so much.

 

They were last year's wooden spooners and we struggled. 

Hardly something to celebrate if we think we deserve a spot in the 8.

Yes we will all take the 4 points happily but we clearly have a lot of leaks to plug. 

[Wiseblood 24,636]

1 minute ago, Hot as Hell said:

They were last year's wooden spooners and we struggled. 

Hardly something to celebrate if we think we deserve a spot in the 8.

Yes we will all take the 4 points happily but we clearly have a lot of leaks to plug. 

True, but every team who makes the 8 have some bad games during the season.   Hell, Richmond were flogged by the Saints in the middle of the last season.  

No sides dominate every week.  It's what you do in those games that you struggle in that counts.  We got the lollies today which is a positive, but as you say, we have some issues that need fixing.  Hopefully we sung the song and moved on quickly.

[nosoupforme 3,085]

Good sides find a way to win. The old Melbourne would have thrown it away in that last quarter when the lions were level. We looked gone and it was a sick feeling. They found a way to win and by 26 points.Can you believe it ?    Well done Dees! you are maturing .Some iffy umpiring decisions and one in front against Jetta, the mind boggles. The holding the ball decision in the crucial last Quarter.

Out of jail or not the old Melbourne would have capitulated. You made my Easter.

[Cards13 9,117]

54 minutes ago, iv'a worn smith said:

For God's sake. We came off just over a 6 day break, had to travel after playing a tough game last week. We won ffs. Enjoy and think of next week. Geez there's some plonkers on here

It’s rnd 2?! These type of comments are amusing, pulling out a 6 day break and a flight to Brissy as an issue.

[sisso 2,434]

Some people just aren’t happy unless we win every game by 17 goals

[KingDingAling 3,683]

It was good to get the win. For a while there it looked unlikely. Some positive signs today from Hogan and Garlett. Continued excellence from Oliver. I thought Wagner looked better today. Then there is Bugg, Tyson and Harmes - just not up to it. Those three were costly today. We need to look at improving our depth if we are to challenge consistently.

[stevethemanjordan 6,952]

Happy-go-lucky MFC supporters.

Gotta love em. 

What did we give up tonight? 42 points over a quarter of footy? Between the third and fourth?

@ProDee, how's that sample going?

 

[DV8 2,271]

29 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Salem is silky at times but cannot stay on his feet, and is not capable of applying pressure when needed.

Give him time, he's doing some good things, and we need variation in the middle.  we can't have all vineys, jones's, petracca's, tyspon's, maynards & lewis's, only in our mid setup. 

Oli' aside, we need more variation in the setup.

I think we have to allow Salem to get more time thru the middle, as well as Hogan. Hannan, and eventually Fritta, once hes got 20+ games under his kilt.

Time will unearth some gems we didn't expect, in the centre square for us, we just gotta keep diggin it. they'll turn up.

[stranga 328]

How so many can play down or excuse giving up a 42 point lead against a bottom 4 team is really astonishing.

Could not be more disappointed. With all that happened last year yet we still lack desire to be ruthless. 

Oliver and Hogan have been the only enjoyable aspects of our first two games. Just hope there is improvement as the year progresses.

Edited March 31, 2018 by stranga

[Bay Riffin 1,434]

50 minutes ago, Stretch Johnson said:

Father time waits for no man. 

He

Is

Cooked

Yet saved our bacon with good positioning all night. Go watch it again. 

[Beetle 4,348]

1 hour ago, Jaded said:

Rubbish. Dodged a bullet. 

Oliver. Hogan. Jeffy take a bow. 

The rest to the tip. 

You can add Jones to that list. 

[layzie 30,446]

A tale of two halves:

The first half I saw hard running both ways, good forward pressure and decent skill hitting targets. Guys like Trac and Hibberd getting it on a string.

The second half I saw a lot less running, a lot more fumbling (understand the conditions played some part) and a lot more panicking. Garlett and Hodges saved the day, Clarry you can hold your head up high but across the board we really dropped off.

How many of these games does Lever have to have before we worry? Because right now he’s looking like the most expensive 3rd tall defender ever.

[DV8 2,271]

32 minutes ago, Jaded said:

This club is at a point where we can’t just be “happy we won”. If we are serious about taking the next step we can’t keep burying our head in the sand. 

This is not 2017, I don’t care about just grinding out a win against an average team, and neither should the club. We need to look at the issues we have with consistency in games, with a lack of plan B, with poor mental lapses and defensive efforts. 

Yes 4 points is great, but finals teams are ruthless. They know how to put their foot down and win these sorts of games by big margins. We simply collapse under pressure and it is nothing new. 

If we keep accepting mediocre wins we will continue to be a mediocre team. I want a flag, nothing else matters. If we play like this and win a flag so be it, but we won’t. 

ruthless has to start inside the clubs leadership, from the coaches, selectors, to the co-captains.  see hodge...  captains have to make sure the players are doing their all,,, or they can go back to the VFL.

 

ruthless has to begin NOW.

[Stretch Johnson 2,604]

I don't think we are batting as deep as many of us thought we would be. 

It's a matter of confidence, form and selection.

 

[Cheap Seats 3,308]

34 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

Not wrist slashing but.... “Good teams”?!

We played finals last time? Last year we did what? We’re currently 1-1 when we should be 2-0... we keep getting thrashed in 1 qtr that loses is games.. 

Come on. 

Pull yer head out of your arse mate.

I guarantee you the tigers won ugly last year. Hence the statement that good teams find a way to win ugly.

Im not saying we dont have issues im saying we found a way to win, scored 100 pts, kept the opposition under 80, and are still.missing 2 of our top 5.

If you're going to argue come back with something better then we keep getting beaten in 1 qtt because last time i checked it was only being in front at the final siren that matters.

[Beetle 4,348]

1 minute ago, layzie said:

How many of these games does Lever have to have before we worry? Because right now he’s looking like the most expensive 3rd tall defender ever.

He looks like Oscar did two years ago. Frightening.

Hopefully he can learn to become the player Oscar has in time..

[Cheap Seats 3,308]

20 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

You're only as good as your next game.

We get frustrated because we see the same mistakes over and over again, and when we make these same mistakes against better opposition we will lose.

The result is almost irrelevant, it's about seeing the team play a certain way and creating habits that will lead to sustained success.

Results are not irrelevant, especially if u read demonland. 

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

2 minutes ago, Stretch Johnson said:

I don't think we are batting as deep as many of us thought we would be. 

It's a matter of confidence, form and selection.

 

Our core midfield depth is non-existent.

Without Viney, Oliver is our only genuine ball winner (aside from the odd Jones cameo).

[Deestar9 1,435]

We go to brisbane as a team who are predicted to make the top 8 & win over a team who are touted as being bottom 4 ...ess who are predicted by  many to be top 4 go to  Freo who are also predicted to be bottom 4 & they lose ... who should be happier ... Melb or ess supporters...I’m happy ? 

[Stretch Johnson 2,604]

Just now, Clint Bizkit said:

Our core midfield depth is non-existent.

Without Viney, Oliver is our only genuine ball winner (aside from the odd Jones cameo).

My hope was Harmes. Salem and Neal Bullen would come on but it hasn't happened yet.

NB someone needs to tell Harmes that his job is not to take hangers 3 deep against our talls. 

[DV8 2,271]

31 minutes ago, Skuit said:

He's basically done a Bradbury to skip past three AA-level backmen in the space of two games. I won't deny that I'm easily amused Wiseblood. 

Done a B,.,.,..,,, or did everyone here underestimate how good he could become? thats not  bradb.,.,.  that is development.

 

30 minutes ago, Demon77 said:

He was horrible tonight but if we do make finals I don’t believe the coaches will be leaving out just about the only player with finals experience.

We don't gift games any longer. 

If we want to become ruthless, we have to act on the training track & at selection meetings. If he's dew an early morning wake-up call, so be it.

Let him kick the dew drops off the grass down at Casey.   Might freshen him up a bit.

 

34 minutes ago, Sigil said:

Christ, should the team have given up and let BrisVegas had the lollies, so the MFC Syndrome could have the jollies?

"It's so like Melbourne to roll over and lose against a team like this". We didn't.

"We screwed up our draft picks again". We didn't.

"X Team would have beaten them by eleven billionty goals". They don't exist.

It's bloody frustrating but some of the hyperbole in the game day threads and post discussion are silly. Critical analysis... sure... Critical always about everything MFC... not so much.

 

I'm not so sure about that one Sigs.   We gave up too much for Lever.

Time will tell just how much it has cost?

32 minutes ago, Watts Jurrah Dunn? said:

2 first rounders and $800k a year for Lever?

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[dieter 3,325]

Just watched Highlights. First thing I noticed was the sweat: it must have been humid and debilitating. Sure, both sides were out there but I'd venture that if you've trained and lived in a humid, sweaty environment for a while your body adjusts more quickly and efficiently than a newcomer's. I experienced that in Brunswick Heads in late November last year, I found the humidity overwhelming: the locals just said, this is nothing.

In the end, it was a win in difficult circumstances. I'll take a win any day...

[GCDee 3,111]

I really do not understand some of our supporter base and how negative they can be... 

An interstate win, by 4 goals against a team choc full of talent. 

Yes it's frustrating we gave up 7 goal lead, but AFL footy is a game of momentum brissy got on a run and played very well for the 3rd and half of the 4th. 

Not to mention we have some star players in putrid form (hunt, jetta & lever) and 2 of our top 10 players out. 

We cannot and will not win every game by 10 goals. 

Great grinding win on the road and excited about the roos next week! 

[Biffen 12,567]

1 hour ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Glad i dont have to move to the Czech Republic.....

Then you've never been there.

It is magnificent.