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i for one am really excited to hopefully see this weekend how petty and weed work together, against the best defence in the game

footscray don't have much in terms of tall defenders particularly, but petty played well against them

i like the idea of both weed and petty forward - they bring the ball to ground level and fight hard when it's there,

playing in our forward line is a pretty tough ask; both look cooked later in the game (weed all year and petty shifting back with may moving forward late against the scrays)

definitely keen to persist with petty forward given the absence of t mac and the defensive linchpins of may, frost, and lever

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6 hours ago, whatwhatsaywhat said:

i for one am really excited to hopefully see this weekend how petty and weed work together, against the best defence in the game

footscray don't have much in terms of tall defenders particularly, but petty played well against them

i like the idea of both weed and petty forward - they bring the ball to ground level and fight hard when it's there,

playing in our forward line is a pretty tough ask; both look cooked later in the game (weed all year and petty shifting back with may moving forward late against the scrays)

definitely keen to persist with petty forward given the absence of t mac and the defensive linchpins of may, frost, and lever

And IF May were to be tried forward, [maybe not this week], then why not see what the Weed can learn at CHB?

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Misson's injury update looked a lot more like Weid would miss the game against the Eagles and Tim Smith would play.

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23 hours ago, Call Me What You Will said:

Darcy Moore has had 5 years? In the system, and despite being injury prone has shown this year that he can actually play. I have faith in the Weid. I also liked Petty’s game on the weekend, and even more so the poise and control he showed prior to injury for three quarters against Carltank the previous week. I also remember his embarrassing debut against the Saints last year. In a season of despair, there is some big picture thinking and promise here.

.Faith???? Hnmm an often overstated belief that so often amounts to nothing!

Yep and Ill tell ya Being a Melbourne Supporter/Member is a true test of it

Other than one game and a few Cameos he really has done .. Not a lot!

In a ruthless Business.... I would look Advantageously at a trade Seasons End!

 

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Decided to have a look at Tom Hawkins’ average stats in 2010 when he was the same age as Weid is now.

1.2 goals vs 1 goal.

12.6 disposals vs 10.3.

5.7 marks vs 4.2.

1.2 contested marks vs 1.4

The picture paints two very comparable players stats wise. 

Two years later, Hawkins kicked 62 goals and was All Australian.

Some patience needs to be shown with Weid. Surely even his harshest critics can see the glimpses of potential. Let him continue to fill out, build his craft, and let’s see what sort of player we have in a couple of years time. 

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2 hours ago, P-man said:

Decided to have a look at Tom Hawkins’ average stats in 2010 when he was the same age as Weid is now.

1.2 goals vs 1 goal.

12.6 disposals vs 10.3.

5.7 marks vs 4.2.

1.2 contested marks vs 1.4

The picture paints two very comparable players stats wise. 

Two years later, Hawkins kicked 62 goals and was All Australian.

Some patience needs to be shown with Weid. Surely even his harshest critics can see the glimpses of potential. Let him continue to fill out, build his craft, and let’s see what sort of player we have in a couple of years time. 

Interesting, Pman. And Hawkins had the advantage of being in a much better team. 

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On 7/14/2019 at 1:39 PM, Queanbeyan Demon said:

Clearly you posters know absolutely nothing about footy. Goody told us many times that there's a "problem with connection". In order to get passed these weasel words, I went and looked up 'connection' in the dictionary (see definitions below). Having worked through this, I am much better informed. It's clear to me now what Goody means . . . "I haven't got a pissant clue so I'll talk a lot of euphemistic BS that'll make supporters eyes glaze over and impress the Club's board". God knows what the players think when they hear this cr%p. 

1. the act or state of connecting.
2. the state of being connected:the connection between cause and effect.
3. anything that connects; a connecting part; link; bond:an electrical connection.
4. association; relationship:the connection between crime and poverty; no connection with any other firm of the same name.
5. a circle of friends or associates or a member of such a circle.
6.association with or development of something observed, imagined, discussed, etc.:to make a connection between the smell of smoke and the presence of fire; I have a few thoughts in connection with your last remarks.
7. contextual relation; context, as of a word.
8. the meeting of trains, planes, etc., for transfer of passengers:There are good connections between buses in Chicago.
9. Often connections. a transfer by a passenger from one conveyance to another:to miss connections.
10. a specific vehicle, airplane, ship, etc., boarded in making connections:My connection for Hartford is the 10:58.
11. a relative, especially by marriage or distant blood relationship.
12. Slang. a person who sells drugs directly to addicts.
13.a source of supply for goods, material, etc., that is scarce, difficult, or illegal to obtain:connection to obtain guns and ammunition for the rebels.
14. a group of persons who are connected, as by political or religious ties.
15.Usually connectionsassociates, relations, acquaintances, or friends, especially representing or having some influence or power:European connections; good connections in Congress.
16. a religious denomination:the Methodist connection.
17. a channel of communication:bad telephone connection.
18. sexual intercourse.

Wtf does this have to do with football?

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3 minutes ago, Ugottobekidding said:

Wtf does this have to do with football?

I believe they are disappointed that "Good off the ball running patterns and accurate ball use between AFL midfielders and forwards" was not listed as a definition for "Connection" in the Oxford English dictionary. 

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6 minutes ago, ArtificialWisdom said:

I believe they are disappointed that "Good off the ball running patterns and accurate ball use between AFL midfielders and forwards" was not listed as a definition for "Connection" in the Oxford English dictionary. 

Point 18 is amusing anyhow.

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Now Sam has been ruled out for the rest of the season is the perfect time for him to start a weight program just on his upper body and in turn will give him the tools to continue over the season break, if Sam can build up this area of his body it will in turn help him progress at a better rate playing against bigger body back men guess we will soon find out.

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36 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

Now Sam has been ruled out for the rest of the season is the perfect time for him to start a weight program just on his upper body and in turn will give him the tools to continue over the season break, if Sam can build up this area of his body it will in turn help him progress at a better rate playing against bigger body back men guess we will soon find out.

Not sure how well the weight program will go while he's eating soup the next few weeks...

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38 minutes ago, demon3165 said:

Now Sam has been ruled out for the rest of the season is the perfect time for him to start a weight program just on his upper body and in turn will give him the tools to continue over the season break, if Sam can build up this area of his body it will in turn help him progress at a better rate playing against bigger body back men guess we will soon find out.

I'd say strength through the midriff, hips and legs would be a greater priority. This will help stop him getting pushed off the contest, which happens regularly 

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I think he'd benefit a lot more from improving his mobility. we know he can mark and kick but i think the biggest thing is he doesn't get involved in enough contests and goes missing. build his tank and set his KPI next year to be involved in x amount of contests per quarter

with his talent he is going to win or halve a lot of them and i think if he can do that he will very quickly become the key forward we desperately need. he's shown flashes. 

 

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We’d only want him to put on size to be the bash and crash type forward who breaks open a pack. He just doesn’t seem like that sort of forward to me. 

Is he an odd size for a KPF today? 195cm and 96kg. He doesn’t appear agile enough to play a role like Riewoldt but then he’s not tall or big enough to play a role like Hawkins. 

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Poor Sam.

Does anyone else sometimes look at his expression on field and just think 'this guy knows he is cursed'?

He clearly is cursed, but good on him for carrying on despite that.

 

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4 minutes ago, Win4theAges said:

H.Petty is going to be a star, Weed has a hell of a fight on his hands to reclaim Petty's CHF position.

If Petty plays forward, I think he’s a third tall.  He’ll be fighting J.Smith for that position next year.

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How did Weids get the injury, sounds like he got hit by a truck, teeth out, screws inserted? Must have been a big head high hit! 

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2 hours ago, Lord Nev said:

Not sure how well the weight program will go while he's eating soup the next few weeks...

Can it be carb heavy soup?

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14 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

How did Weids get the injury, sounds like he got hit by a truck, teeth out, screws inserted? Must have been a big head high hit! 

Got Dec’d

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59 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

If Petty plays forward, I think he’s a third tall.  He’ll be fighting J.Smith for that position next year.

Agree with this. Petty strikes me as a similar player to Jack Darling, agile tall forward with a bit of agro about him. TMac and Weid are definitely our key forwarda with Pruess able to rotate in as a key forward/ruck. 

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2 hours ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

We’d only want him to put on size to be the bash and crash type forward who breaks open a pack. He just doesn’t seem like that sort of forward to me. 

Is he an odd size for a KPF today? 195cm and 96kg. He doesn’t appear agile enough to play a role like Riewoldt but then he’s not tall or big enough to play a role like Hawkins. 

Shoulder to shoulder I doubt there's any real difference in height. Hawkins has an underrated leap, although his real quality attribute is his power off a few steps. The fat lug was a champion high jumper. He can make ground quickly.

Weideman does't have a standout attribute but he has strong versatility and if he puts it together he does a lot of things to a nice level. He can kick, he can gather it on the ground and genuinely handball with fast clean hands on both sides of his body, he can tackle, his tank/speed/agility/strength all aren't terrible, he can present up and he can absolutely leap at the ball. But he doesn't get any thing easy by way of speed, agility or fitness. Plus he drops marks he gets his hands on, misses kicks he should make and then gets injured. 

Start holding just a couple more marks he gets hands on and making a few more easy shots on goal and he's a useful player. Develop any of his attributes to an above average level and he'll then have some weapons to work with.

I feel we've missed a great opportunity to give him some games down back though.

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18 hours ago, Little Goffy said:

Poor Sam.

Does anyone else sometimes look at his expression on field and just think 'this guy knows he is cursed'?

He clearly is cursed, but good on him for carrying on despite that.

 

I look at his expression on the field and think 'trade'. 

Or delist. Honestly, if Weideman was pick 43 he'd be the easiest end of season cull decision in history.

Never going to  make it.

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On 7/16/2019 at 10:53 AM, whatwhatsaywhat said:

i for one am really excited to hopefully see this weekend how petty and weed work together, against the best defence in the game

footscray don't have much in terms of tall defenders particularly, but petty played well against them

i like the idea of both weed and petty forward - they bring the ball to ground level and fight hard when it's there,

playing in our forward line is a pretty tough ask; both look cooked later in the game (weed all year and petty shifting back with may moving forward late against the scrays)

definitely keen to persist with petty forward given the absence of t mac and the defensive linchpins of may, frost, and lever

WWSW could you please let me know what tonic you are taking of late as i for one couldn't be less excited right now.

If we were talking an insane trade with those two (along with some picks) for a genuine KPF and two blistering small forwards  then i might be a little more excited.

Roll on 2020.

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20 hours ago, chookrat said:

Agree with this. Petty strikes me as a similar player to Jack Darling, agile tall forward with a bit of agro about him. TMac and Weid are definitely our key forwarda with Pruess able to rotate in as a key forward/ruck. 

Looks more like Cale Morton or Lucas Cook to me. VFL level.

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