2017 Player Reviews: # 26 Sam Weideman

[Demonland 71,622]

SLOWDOWN SAM

 

Weideman showed some promise when he broke into the Melbourne team late last year but suffered from "second year blues" in 2017 and late in the season was struggling for kicks with the Casey Demons. Some hard work in the off season is prescribed.

 

Date of Birth: 26 June, 1997

Height: 195cm

Weight: 94kg

Games MFC 2017: 7

Career Total: 10

Goals MFC 2017: 3

Career Total: 6

CDFC Games 2017: 14

CDFC Goals 2017: 14

 

Season 2017 AFL Statistics

 

Kicks: 24

Handballs: 32

Disposals: 56

Marks: 18

Scores: 3 goals 4 behinds

Goal Assists: 2

Tackles: 12

Hitouts: 0

Clearances: 3

Clangers: 11

Inside 50s: 8

Rebound 50s: 0

Frees For: 6

Frees Against: 7

[jackaub 1,402]

Another year in the Gym  for me 

Prepared to wait 12 months

Low expectations at the moment from what I saw this year

Really hope he develops

[Wrecker45 3,378]

Can't read the drop of the ball. Occasionally flukes it, a broken clock is right twice a day.

Bust.

[Smokey 4,389]

I still have faith he will be good support for Hogan in the years to come. Needs to eat lots of steak over summer and hit the iron hard.

I find it hard to question the FD in terms of recruiting lately as they have been stellar - so I trust they see something we may necessarily not.

[Ouch! 2,258]

Still early days for me, showed in a couple of VFL games that he can be a focal point, but his role in the VFL is unlikely to be the same in the AFL at this point. Hogan and TMac are the key forwards.

Would like to see maybe a 6-10 games and a little more impact on the scoreboard in those games, but building mass and and the frame to support it will be key to 2018 for him. 

Is he going to need to start learning some ruckcraft as well?

[ignition. 1,463]

For me, his reading and awareness need to improve first and foremost. I spent a little time watching him when he did play in the AFL side and the game just seemed to move around him. Second to that, a little more time in the gym should be beneficial. From VFL reports he did show some glimpses of brilliance, which at his age and height, is the least we can ask for. Hopefully, he takes a few steps ahead over the off-season and in the new year.

[jackaub 1,402]

Pick 9

2017      7 games

K 3.4

HB 4.6

Marks 2.6

Goals 0.5

Tackles 1.7

Inside 50  1.0

Doesnt look great

 

[poita 3,896]

Basically a wasted season for Sam, as I saw no improvement from year 1 to year 2. I have little hope at this point that he will become the player we need him to be, but clearly the club will give him every possible chance to make his mark, and then some.

The biggest mistake we made was giving him AFL games that he didn't deserve. Far better to make him so hungry and desperate to get in the AFL side that he never lets his standards drop, than hoping he steps up when games are gifted to him. The talent is there, but that is all at this point. 

Essentially Sam needs to be much harder and more committed in his attack at the football and at the contest. Part of that is getting bigger and stronger, but it is also the mindset that he is going to play with a lot more physicality than he has to date. He has to get fitter so he can cover more ground and make repeat leads. He has to keep himself in the game for longer by tackling and chasing. Plenty for him to work on over the break.

 

 

 

 

[drdrake 3,162]

Was better in 2016, maybe a bit of second year blues, needs to show something in 2018

[Demon Jack 6,862]

Aside from a couple of cracking VFL games, I'd would've liked to have seen more from Sam this year. Saying that, he'll be given plenty of time by the club. He's a key position forward who only just turned 20 a couple of months ago. 

Not concerned yet.

 

 

[whatwhat say what 22,700]

He’s super young, and I think it’s worth remembering he barely played at underage level due to injury etc

His frame looks like he will be able to build a decent size in time, but it’s going to be a slow build

He has the talent, now a matter of building the body to allow him to use it

[old dee 23,781]

1 hour ago, poita said:

Basically a wasted season for Sam, as I saw no improvement from year 1 to year 2. I have little hope at this point that he will become the player we need him to be, but clearly the club will give him every possible chance to make his mark, and then some.

The biggest mistake we made was giving him AFL games that he didn't deserve. Far better to make him so hungry and desperate to get in the AFL side that he never lets his standards drop, than hoping he steps up when games are gifted to him. The talent is there, but that is all at this point. 

Essentially Sam needs to be much harder and more committed in his attack at the football and at the contest. Part of that is getting bigger and stronger, but it is also the mindset that he is going to play with a lot more physicality than he has to date. He has to get fitter so he can cover more ground and make repeat leads. He has to keep himself in the game for longer by tackling and chasing. Plenty for him to work on over the break.

 

 

 

 

In the games I saw when he was playing at Casey and AFL level he has next to no presence on the ground.

As you say the game seems to go on around him. Even at Casey he had little impact on the results.

[old dee 23,781]

3 minutes ago, DemonAndrew said:

He’s super young, and I think it’s worth remembering he barely played at underage level due to injury etc

His frame looks like he will be able to build a decent size in time, but it’s going to be a slow build

He has the talent, now a matter of building the body to allow him to use it

Not sure that is the case DA.

I have seen bugger all of it so far.

[beelzebub 23,313]

With the kids you often get glimpses of what might be.

Someone wake me up when that happens

[The Stigga 1,094]

3 minutes ago, old dee said:

Not sure that is the case DA.

I have seen bugger all of it so far.

 

He has the talent, just needs to gain about 10kg

 

[old dee 23,781]

3 minutes ago, The Stigga said:

 

He has the talent, just needs to gain about 10kg

 

One swallow does not make a summer.

Blease kicked five once at AFL level.

[The Stigga 1,094]

2 minutes ago, old dee said:

One swallow does not make a summer.

Blease kicked five once at AFL level.

Yeah I understand that, however he has to be given time to fill out first.

GC's Tom Lynch didn't do anything until about his fourth year.

Not saying he's Lynch but he has time.

[Wrecker45 3,378]

1 hour ago, The Stigga said:

 

He has the talent, just needs to gain about 10kg

 

Mark 1 and 5 were strong. Still not convinced he knows how to read the ball off the boot.

He is a beautiful kick I will give him that. Wish Hogan could kick with that kind of distance.

[hoopla 418]

6 hours ago, Wrecker45 said:

Mark 1 and 5 were strong. Still not convinced he knows how to read the ball off the boot.

He is a beautiful kick I will give him that. Wish Hogan could kick with that kind of distance.

First time I've posted in a long time.

We have shown great faith in Sam ever since we grabbed him in the draft. He was supposed to slot in beside Jessie as an attacking key to a succession of premierships.

Sadly I'm afraid that he has shown us absolutely nothing. He might have played 2 good quarters with Casey in 2 years. Hulett who has been delisted was certainly no worse

He doesn't get the ball and he has no onfield presence.

On present indications- he's on his way to the flop club to join Lucas Cook and Luke Molan.

I'd love to be proved wrong - but for all it's brilliant recruiting efforts over recent years - the FD is still prone to serious errors!

[whatwhat say what 22,700]

2 minutes ago, hoopla said:

First time I've posted in a long time.

We have shown great faith in Sam ever since we grabbed him in the draft. He was supposed to slot in beside Jessie as an attacking key to a succession of premierships.

Sadly I'm afraid that he has shown us absolutely nothing. He might have played 2 good quarters with Casey in 2 years. Hulett who has been delisted was certainly no worse

He doesn't get the ball and he has no onfield presence.

On present indications- he's on his way to the flop club to join Lucas Cook and Luke Molan.

I'd love to be proved wrong - but for all it's brilliant recruiting efforts over recent years - the FD is still prone to serious errors!

he's two years in

most key forwards are not like hogan and ready to go at 19

give him time

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,685]

Big year for the Lad, needs to show something to go forward with, especially the way the game is going with the small midfield/forward types could be an obsolete type player if he doesn't show dramatic improvement e.g. Contested marking and physical aggression at the contest.

[nosoupforme 3,085]

11 hours ago, jackaub said:

Another year in the Gym  for me 

Prepared to wait 12 months

Low expectations at the moment from what I saw this year

Really hope he develops

His best game was against Hawthorn  o late 2016. it was also his first game .

He has not done much since.

[DemonLad5 1,642]

He'll come good. Has the traits. Super aggressive at the footy and tackling for a big boy is a highlight. Bit more time in the system learning his craft and he'll be a jet 

[YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,685]

He's got 2 years to show something otherwise ship him to collingwood so he can bask in all that is collingwood and live of his grand daddy's name.

[TeamPlayedFine39 8,488]

He played no football in his under 18 year and is physically under developed for a KPF.  I'm of the belief that rather than not reading the ball in flight, he is moved of it too easily by mature defenders.  Needs time in the gym; another 10kg and a stronger core will help him a lot.

Realistically, he shouldn't have played the early rounds this year- especially with Hogan out- hes a kid, and played like it.  Will be hoping for him to feature in the second halo of 2018, if not, then it's the time to get concerned.