Farewell Jack Watts

[Redleg 40,979]

24 minutes ago, Bobby McKenzie said:

If you accept pick 31 for Jack you are as crazy as the MFC and Goodwin. Gee, this club lacks nouse. Pick 31, unknown and a lowly draft pick. Complete pig in a poke situation. Have the premiership Port. We are glad to help your cause at our expense! How do they do it? Three class players and we can only land one. They must have something enticing. Probably the location.

Agree . Pick 31 not enough

Disagree   MFC and Goodwin not crazy.

[Adam The God 30,291]

15 minutes ago, Bobby McKenzie said:

What about Goodwin, No premiership. 

Goodwin's back is sore enough, mate. 

[Smokey 4,389]

People in here already saying the deal is bad before we even know what the deal is haha

 

[Bobby McKenzie 2,385]

Just now, A F said:

Goodwin's back is sore enough, mate. 

I'm glad AF he has earned it.

[wattsindawes 57]

2 minutes ago, Bobby McKenzie said:

What about Goodwin, No premiership. 

Not bad.

 

No real issues if they wanted to trade out watts but I don’t think the public criticism of him is what strong clubs do. Wouldn’t have happened under Roos. I think some players would be a little bit put off by that sort of singular commentary. Could have very easily been played out behind closed doors. 

[Hiram Cowfreak 78]

I’m unhappy with he way the club has handled this. Watts loved the club and has been burnt. Some posting here say there is more to the story but clearly have nothing to back it up. 

I doubt whoever we draft at pick 31 will be as good. I understand we have to continuously improve our list but this was a crap way to do it. Goodwin has a lot to prove now.

(end rant)

 

[Adam The God 30,291]

14 minutes ago, Bobby McKenzie said:

I'm glad AF he has earned it.

Don't bother stating you WILL stab him in the back. It's all you've done for days.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

1 minute ago, Hiram Cowfreak said:

I’m unhappy with he way the club has handled this. Watts loved the club and has been burnt. Some posting here say there is more to the story but clearly have nothing to back it up. 

I doubt whoever we draft at pick 31 will be as good. I understand we have to continuously improve our list but this was a crap way to do it. Goodwin has a lot to prove now.

(end rant)

 

Some things can't be said in public.

Nonetheless, it has been handled poorly by club, especially in terms of leveraging any value from a potential trade.

[rolling fog 1,207]

"It's all just slipping away..." 

[DaveyDee 421]

Just now, the rolling fog said:

"It's all just slipping away..." 

We have a cunning plan 

 

[wattsindawes 57]

6 minutes ago, Smokey said:

People in here already saying the deal is bad before we even know what the deal is haha

 

Partly because he’s elite by foot/decision making.. his forward pressure actually doesn’t rate that bad. It’s just a lot of people have these unrealistic expectations of him. They’ll probably get a second rounder for him. Won’t be able to judge if it was a good or bad deal until we see what sort of player comes at that pick. Not really worth the risk as we know what we have in watts - elite kick, elite decision maker average contest player.... as Roos has said why not focus on what he’s good at rather than what he does poorly. 

Edited October 17, 2017 by wattsindawes

[Bobby McKenzie 2,385]

3 minutes ago, A F said:

Don't bother stating you WILL stab him in the back. It's all you've done for days.

Stop repeating yourself mate. This is a forum. My opinion, your opinion.

 

 

 

[daisycutter 29,626]

2 minutes ago, the rolling fog said:

"It's all just slipping away..." 

 

[The Backyard Charizard 1,202]

At the end of day I put blind faith in the club to make the right decisions with regards to improving our list and getting into the premiership race... I will have a disappointed 8 year old son who adored Watts but them's the breaks...

I can at least go and see Watts run around with Toumpas when Norwood play Port Adelaide next season...

Take the emotion out of it and see it for what it is... The club made a tough decision... If it's right or wrong will only be known down the track...

I sleep easy 

[Hiram Cowfreak 78]

Just now, Clint Bizkit said:

Some things can't be said in public.

Nonetheless, it has been handled poorly by club, especially in terms of leveraging any value from a potential trade.

Fair enough Clint l guess there would be some ramifications but l am disappointed with the club. Makes us look bad, if we want to attract young supporters we have to do better.

[The Chazz 4,077]

1 minute ago, wattsindawes said:

Partly because he’s elite by foot/decision making.. his forward pressure actually doesn’t rate that bad. It’s just a lot of people have these inrealistic expectations of him. They’ll probably get a second rounder for him. Won’t be able to judge if it was a good or bad deal until we see what sort of player comes at that pick. Not really worth the risk as we know what we have in watts - elite kick, elite decision maker average contest player.... as Roos has said why not focus on what he’s good at rather than what he does poorly. 

Very simplistic way of looking at it.

[Mazer Rackham 14,971]

Just as a reminder.

We lost to North twice, Freo once, had Brisbane on toast and nearly collapsed, and flubbed it against C'wood in rd 23.

After another season of tripping at important hurdles, and with our stumbing, bumbling end to the season, Goodwin, the guy with his nads on the line, made the call that something has to change.

Otherwise we'll forever be flubbing it when it counts.

If this doesn't send a message to the players, then it's time to step down and join the VAFA.

[Smokey 4,389]

2 minutes ago, wattsindawes said:

Partly because he’s elite by foot/decision making.. his forward pressure actually doesn’t rate that bad. It’s just a lot of people have these unrealistic expectations of him. They’ll probably get a second rounder for him. Won’t be able to judge if it was a good or bad deal until we see what sort of player comes at that pick. Not really worth the risk as we know what we have in watts - elite kick, elite decision maker average contest player.... as Roos has said why not focus on what he’s good at rather than what he does poorly. 

Again, lets wait and see what we actually get huh?

My guess is 31 + an upgrade somewhere else, which we can hopefully package to get back in the 1st round.

[dl4e 5,851]

Okay he has nominated Port but a deal hasn't been reached yet.

[wattsindawes 57]

Just now, Smokey said:

Again, lets wait and see what we actually get huh?

My guess is 31 + an upgrade somewhere else, which we can hopefully package to get back in the 1st round.

If you read what I said we have to wait and see what player we get at the pick we receive before we judge on failure or success. We could get a mythical pick 12 for him and pick another L. Cook. My point being is the player we know is sometimes better then the player we don’t know. Watts is a known quantity. 

[beelzebub 23,380]

8 minutes ago, Clint Bizkit said:

Some things can't be said in public.

Nonetheless, it has been handled poorly by club, especially in terms of leveraging any value from a potential trade.

[ding 5,126]

3 minutes ago, wattsindawes said:

Partly because he’s elite by foot/decision making.. his forward pressure actually doesn’t rate that bad. It’s just a lot of people have these unrealistic expectations of him. They’ll probably get a second rounder for him. Won’t be able to judge if it was a good or bad deal until we see what sort of player comes at that pick. Not really worth the risk as we know what we have in watts - elite kick, elite decision maker average contest player.... as Roos has said why not focus on what he’s good at rather than what he does poorly. 

Why not demand he try harder to improves the things he does poorly. 

This seems to be what the coaches have done, and Watts either couldnt or wouldnt bust a gut to improve. They obviously got sick to death of waiting for Watts to develop some urgency.

Good kicking should never be enough to save a player from being traded if thats essentially all they offer the team on game day.

I personally wont be tearing up when the trade is completed.

[AllMyTeamsAreWank 564]

I'm really hoping this falls over and we have to keep him. 

[DeeZee 7,427]

Done deal pick 31

[Smokey 4,389]

Just now, wattsindawes said:

If you read what I said we have to wait and see what player we get at the pick we receive before we judge on failure or success. We could get a mythical pick 12 for him and pick another L. Cook. My point being is the player we know is sometimes better then the player we don’t know. Watts is a known quantity. 

Absolutely he's known quantity

That is - known for laziness, unwillingness to take his game to the next level, a poor influence on younger players and an all round disappointment over 9 years

I'm thrilled that our FD had the guts to make this call, and in turn sending a very strong message to the rest of our list.