Clayton Oliver incident

[beelzebub 23,390]

Just now, Moonshadow said:

Hey...

Shrek's a top bloke

That other bozo's a dlckhead!!

[brendan 3,452]

Weak as [censored] but it is what it is, we have bigger fish to fry 

[Gorgoroth 13,190]

[censored] weak by the club and the AFL. 

That guy should have copped a spray from Carlton and the AFL for his behaviour.

I hope any one that has dealings with this guys company tells them they are looking at rivals until this [censored] publicly apologises for his actions and the breath he is stealing from humans.

 

Very disappointed in the whole of the MFC right now.

[Satan 2,915]

12 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

Clarrie has apologised.  http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-07-10/afl-probing-olivers-verbal-stoush-with-fan

"I shouldn't have reacted the way that I did and I apologise for that because I've taken some polish off the team's win," Oliver said.

"Moving forward I'll learn from this and it won't happen ever again."

It is understood Oliver has conceded the Blues fan did not use a profanity in his comments to the player

Please don't shoot the messenger, I am just reporting from press releases.

If Clarrie embellished what the guy said, that is poor form.

I love Clarrie as much as everyone on this site but he does need to let his football do the talking.  Speaking of which he received 4 Coaches votes

 

I based my comment on mmm article

[Wiseblood 24,637]

3 minutes ago, Gorgoroth said:

[censored] weak by the club and the AFL. 

That guy should have copped a spray from Carlton and the AFL for his behaviour.

I hope any one that has dealings with this guys company tells them they are looking at rivals until this [censored] publicly apologises for his actions and the breath he is stealing from humans.

 

Very disappointed in the whole of the MFC right now.

You are very easily disappointed.  Regardless of what was said, Clarry doesn't need to bite back.  The AFL may well have asked the club to apologise, which they did, and now we move on.  Why we need to be upset about it is beyond me.

[jnrmac 20,310]

Wonder if he is any relation to Slain gangland lawyer Joseph 'Pino' Acquaro. Seems like a reasonable Carlton Crew connection.,,,

[beelzebub 23,390]

19 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Expected result. Carlton fan is an idiot but Clarry doesn't need to respond. He can respond via the scoreboard. 

The incident means nothing, time to untwist our knickers and move right along. 

Entirely disagree.

It 100% validates the despicable actions of the spectator. 

What's Goode for one is apparently wrong for another.

 

[Pates 9,691]

9 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

You are very easily disappointed.  Regardless of what was said, Clarry doesn't need to bite back.  The AFL may well have asked the club to apologise, which they did, and now we move on.  Why we need to be upset about it is beyond me.

I agree tbh. Grand scheme of things it's pretty low in the pecking order. He's only in his second year and where I think a lot of players start getting abuse hurled at them is around the 21-22 mark when they hit their straps, he's getting it at 19. This is a learning season in so many ways for him but he'll be fine. 

Adelaide this week, let's move on. 

[Jara 1,153]

We apologize? I don't understand.

 

I don't like the North coach but you had to admire the way he got on the front foot about jumper punches being legal in his presser immediately after the game. Being proactive, defending your players, launching the case for the defence before the prosecution has even got out of bed. That's what it's all about. 

[Deemented Are Go! 3,704]

It's semantics. The club was forced to make an apology because of the words 'going to kill you'. Legally, these words are a threat, however laughable the whole scenario is. 

Probably the only thing we could've done to defuse the situation. 

Behind closed doors we have Clarry's back. 

That being said, a little slap on the wrist for the bozo is needed too.

[The heart beats true 18,189]

AFLPA what are you doing to earn your money today?

A player got touched by a fan and reacted angrily, and you are saying what?

What a joke of an organisation. 

[Pates 9,691]

Just now, Jara said:

We apologize? I don't understand.

 

I don't like the North coach but you had to admire the way he got on the front foot about jumper punches being legal in his presser immediately after the game. Being proactive, defending your players, launching the case for the defence before the prosecution has even got out of bed. That's what it's all about. 

I think I just threw up a little. No way in hell do I want our coach or players becoming anything like the whining fl0g Scott who always paints his club and players as victims. 

The only thing I wish the club had done was make this an exchange of apologies, fan apologises for putting his hand on Clayton and the club apologises for Clayton's comments. 

Both were in the wrong. 

[monoccular 17,701]

Huge FAIL by the AFL.

Maybe Clarrie should say something, but the totally gutless AFL didn't say o word, or act against a spectator who intentionally made contact with an on field player.

NO leadership on their part, but again look at who ru(i)ns the organisation.

 

 

 

Edited July 10, 2017 by monoccular

[Satan 2,915]

6 minutes ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

It's semantics. The club was forced to make an apology because of the words 'going to kill you'. Legally, these words are a threat, however laughable the whole scenario is. 

Probably the only thing we could've done to defuse the situation. 

Behind closed doors we have Clarry's back. 

That being said, a little slap on the wrist for the bozo is needed too.

This woman might be in trouble if olivers comments ? we're serious 

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/amber-harrison-tried-to-destroy-reputation-of-radio-exec-before-tim-worner-affair/news-story/e43bc6b84a2b03e84d50e20803a132ac

[Uncle Fester 2,848]

Scragged - Clarry's fault

Punched - Clarry's fault

Calls that waste of a cricket spot Marin a choker - Again Clarries fault

Gets hands on from a [censored] with ears - I think you know the drill

 

Stating to see a pattern here... Go hard boys. Smash them all. We are going to be damned if we do and damned if we don't so lets get hung for the sheep. Make them bleed.

 

Oh, and AFL house must be destroyed.

[Deemented Are Go! 3,704]

8 minutes ago, Satan said:

This woman might be in trouble if olivers comments ? we're serious 

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/amber-harrison-tried-to-destroy-reputation-of-radio-exec-before-tim-worner-affair/news-story/e43bc6b84a2b03e84d50e20803a132ac

Yeah it would seem so!

[Return to Glory 8,486]

36 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

Dustin Hoffman had similar eyebrows in Tootsie.

[DemonWA 3,940]

Contact made to Clarry was hardly singnificant or malicious and I think Clarry probably bit hard at a comment about diving rather than any contact etc. He shouldn't have responded the way he did, it's not a good look.

This the outcome in this instance is ok.

Been a big few weeks for learning for him. Despite the off field stuff he's still dominating on the field which shows what a champion he will be

[Deestroy All 14,266]

This is why we can't have nice things. 

 

Btw some absolute [censored] gold in this thread. 

Edited July 10, 2017 by Deestroy All

[Demon17 5,231]

1 hour ago, Jaded said:

Super disappointed with the club on this one. 

You must be joking.  The club has done 2 things right - again..

1.  Got it off the back page in 24 hours - you won't read about it after a small article tomorrow reporting the apology -  PR Rule No.1 .

Any other action would give the story legs.

2. Then  - they wheeled out the best team member to handle todays' presser - Jordan Lewis, who put it all in context, and again hammered the " culture" issue as laughable in a contemptible manner. And why was he the best you asked? - because no-one doubts a 4 time premiership player on what successful culture looks like.

Great media management today, we won the 4 points and Clarry will live to fight another day in Darwin and get 3 Brownlow votes next week,

 

and conversely to what the Blues banner said about us........

They can book THEIR September trip to Noosa instead of me. I'll have commitments at the ' G ' .

 

 

[Wiseblood 24,637]

2 minutes ago, Demon17 said:

You must be joking.  The club has done 2 things right - again..

1.  Got it off the back page in 24 hours - you won't read about it after a small article tomorrow reporting the apology -  PR Rule No.1 .

Any other action would give the story legs.

2. Then  - they wheeled out the best team member to handle todays' presser - Jordan Lewis, who put it all in context, and again hammered the " culture" issue as laughable in a contemptible manner. And why was he the best you asked? - because no-one doubts a 4 time premiership player on what successful culture looks like.

Great media management today, we won the 4 points and Clarry will live to fight another day in Darwin and get 3 Brownlow votes next week,

 

and conversely to what the Blues banner said about us........

They can book THEIR September trip to Noosa instead of me. I'll have commitments at the ' G ' .

 

 

This.  Well said.

[Dee Zephyr 19,291]

Coming up on 9 now, the Oliver story.

Oliver says sorry but denies making threats.

Do we have any idea what was actually said?

[Satan 2,915]

will the ankles sue oliver?

 

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

Sorry but I still dont see how you can lay your hands on a player.....yeah lets move on, but I hope this isnt setting a precedent for another incident some day in the future to another player.

[Gorgoroth 13,190]

56 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

You are very easily disappointed.  Regardless of what was said, Clarry doesn't need to bite back.  The AFL may well have asked the club to apologise, which they did, and now we move on.  Why we need to be upset about it is beyond me.

The club should have asked the AFL what action they were doing in regards to a fan needlessly physically interfering with one of the players then abusing him causing this confrontation well before rolling over and lubing up for the AFL.

Would Carlton have apologised if the roles were reversed? I think not. Would the pies? Hell no, Eddie would have had the masses focussing on this [censored] not Oliver.

No strong club would have apologised so meekly.