AFL Appeals Houli Tribunal Decision

[beelzebub 22,225]

Nothing about any of this, 

Houli or Schofield is right.

Just a rubbish week. 

[ding 5,126]

lol imagine 2 players both smacked each other in the chops at the same time....

Both arguing at the tribunal they deserved one week less than the other coz they are the nicer bloke.... Actually why not try for 2 weeks less as i reckon i am a MUCH nicer bloke than the other guy.... i mean, he doesnt even run an academy or nothin'

Yeah, doesnt make sense whatever way you put it.

Sanity prevails. 

[—coach— 3,466]

This raises an interesting thought which was presented on the demon land podcast the other day, if Houli was given 4 weeks, 1 week for Schofield would seem reasonable. But compared to the 2 weeks he got, 1 week seems unreasonable. So basically Schofield is a very lucky boy that his hearing followed Houli the other day and not tonight.

 

[Nasher 33,047]

44 minutes ago, Wrecker45 said:

Who ever said he wasn't?

Protected species is what I said and compared it to Hall who should have been suspended but also got a ridulously lenient penalty.

I booed Hall I will boo Houli unless things change drastically.

It seems to me you are trying to play indemnity politics and think Houli should be excempt from being booed just because of his religion. Players have been booed for 100 years I don't care about there race, sexuality or religion.

 

No, I genuinely don't understand why people would boo him because he got a lenient sentence.

If you said you were going to boo the members of the tribunal then I'd probably be lining up with you. The outcome was ridiculous and he should have got the 4 weeks at least - not his fault that he didn't though. 

The fact that he got a lenient sentence doesn't add to his sins, that's why I don't get it. Do you boo all players who get rubbed out for stray limbs? Did you give Lewis or Hogan a big old booooooooooo when they returned from their suspensions?

[chook fowler 18,226]

Right decision but I hope there is no booing. He has built many cultural bridges and while it probably was a deliberate action I doubt that he expected to impact the way it did.

[Wrecker45 3,378]

Just now, Nasher said:

No, I genuinely don't understand why people would boo him because he got a lenient sentence.

If you said you were going to boo the members of the tribunal then I'd probably be lining up with you. The outcome was ridiculous and he should have got the 4 weeks at least - not his fault that he didn't though. 

The fact that he got a lenient sentence doesn't add to his sins, that's why I don't get it. Do you boo all players who get rubbed out for stray limbs? Did you give Lewis or Hogan a big old booooooooooo when they returned from their suspensions?

I booo lots. Jordan Lewis yes, but not since he has joined Melbourne.

You can't boo the MRP so if I feel someone is protected by them I will boo the individual.

You can't boo the rules committee or the players union so I have taken the opportunity to boo Scully since he left us.

Thankfully Houli now has a more appropriate sentence. 

 

 

[DubDee 20,575]

Houli should appeal

[Wiseblood 24,636]

2 minutes ago, Wrecker45 said:

I booo lots. Jordan Lewis yes, but not since he has joined Melbourne.

You can't boo the MRP so if I feel someone is protected by them I will boo the individual.

You can't boo the rules committee or the players union so I have taken the opportunity to boo Scully since he left us.

Thankfully Houli now has a more appropriate sentence. 

 

 

Unless it's for a bad decision during a game, or a fight that breaks out like Rance clubbing Watts in the back of the head, booing players for other things is the biggest waste of time.  As if they give a stuff.  Go ahead and boo, you just look silly.

[Nasher 33,047]

Just now, Wrecker45 said:

I booo lots. Jordan Lewis yes, but not since he has joined Melbourne.

You can't boo the MRP so if I feel someone is protected by them I will boo the individual.

You can't boo the rules committee or the players union so I have taken the opportunity to boo Scully since he left us.

Thankfully Houli now has a more appropriate sentence. 

 

 

Fair enough. I guess I struggle with booing something that is pretty much outside their control, but each to their own. I'd probably have booed my head off at him if that incident occurred in a Melbourne game, but because of the act, and I wouldn't have carried it beyond the game it happened in.

I agree that he has a more appropriate sentence now after that ridiculous tribunal outcome.

[Gator 16,892]

Hahaha

If the MRP weren't so incompetent Houli would have got 3 weeks and the AFL wouldn't have bothered appealing.

He's now out for 4.

[Wrecker45 3,378]

11 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Unless it's for a bad decision during a game, or a fight that breaks out like Rance clubbing Watts in the back of the head, booing players for other things is the biggest waste of time.  As if they give a stuff.  Go ahead and boo, you just look silly.

I'm guessing the umpires that make bad decisions, the players that get in a fight or Rance after elbowing Watts don't give a stuff either so it is a moot point.

justifying some booing but not others based on your set of rules makes you look silly not me.

i'll boo when I like and that isn't limited to watching the footy.  

[dieter 3,325]

This topic is, I'm afraid, typical of the nonsense I fear so much on this site.

For a start, Houlis religion has sweet fluck all to do with the whole business, nor does Ramadan.

Secondly, he used every avenue he could to get a lighter sentence.

So did Schofield.

In 2006 Sydney used lawyers to ensure Hall played a Grand Final, something he now admits was bullsheet. Funnily, nobody mentioned his religion.

And I don't care how often you roll the film, from whatever angle you like, slo mo or real time, Scholfield hit Oliver with an elbow to the jaw, five feet from an umpire who reported Schofield. Houli half turned around to whack off a player who was flagrantly in breach of the laws of the game, that is, he was manhandling Houli, in the same way that duckhead Rowe was punching and holding Hogan when Hogan had had enough and lashed out.

In all three cases the victim of either brutality - Oliver - or excessive manhandling gets rubbed out for retaliating.

Great game AFL, if you ask me. Try explaining these situations to kids who live in the real world, where victims of bullying are supposed to stand up for themselves, where victims of an elbow are crucified for falling over.

Also, I note, that Hogan's religion or the question of Ramadan wasn't mentioned either.

 

[Wiseblood 24,636]

2 minutes ago, Wrecker45 said:

I'm guessing the umpires that make bad decisions, the players that get in a fight or Rance after elbowing Watts don't give a stuff either so it is a moot point.

justifying some booing but not others based on your set of rules makes you look silly not me.

i'll boo when I like and that isn't limited to watching the footy.  

No it doesn't.

And you go ahead and boo your little heart out if it makes you feel better.

[Wrecker45 3,378]

1 minute ago, Wiseblood said:

No it doesn't.

 

So does that type of argument.

[Wiseblood 24,636]

Just now, Wrecker45 said:

So does that type of argument.

No it doesn't.

[chook fowler 18,226]

I am very selective with my booing - Scully was my one and only.

[Sir Why You Little 34,443]

Basher will be booed for a few weeks and then someone else will belt someone else and it will move on. 

Jed Lamb i hear today, is still in a bad way. 

If this happened outside a nightclub Houli would be charged

4 weeks is the bare minimum of what he should have got

[Moonshadow 16,168]

Haven't read through thread. Maybe I shouldn't. 

Trying to get my head around the system that permitted this this to happen...

So... the AFL sets up a tribunal to consider what ban might be dished out. But when the AFL doesn't like the results of their own appointees, it appeals it's own system to get the result it wants. All the while splashing this over the press and broadcasting the hearing. Hmmmmm..... 

Houli employed whatever means he could to minimise his ban which any player would do, and has humbly accepted both times the result was conjured, expressing his concern for the player he injured.

Is that right?

Don't like the strike on the Richmond player, it was a cheap act, but I think Houli has handled himself well after both findings. 

Any fool who boos him has issues well beyond Houli's hit on the field.

[Biffen 12,323]

I could not be bothered booing Houli.

His character referees actually highlighted his lack of character.

A .The PM saying nice things about him in order to get votes from an ethnic/ religious minority.A videoclip showing the granting of govt funding by Mal.

This was done without asking the office of the PM.

B.Waleed Aly ,known for his ability to confuse a situation and criticise  society for invisible slights inflicted upon him.Gob for hire.

Luckily the afl saw through this charade.

Jed Lamb is still ill. 

In August,Houli can get back to playing mediocre footy in the race to achieve 9th on the ladder for the worst run club in the AFL.

Anyone who "boos" Basher can go for their life- it's not a crime to boo a player in a sports stadium yet.

As with Goodes, it doesn't achieve much but a maelstrom of supposition on why people boo other people in a 24 hr sports media starving for a debate on society at large.

If Houli is roundly booed Im assuming it's because of the way his case was handled and that people booing don't like him.

Boo hoo.Too bad.So sad.

Edited June 29, 2017 by Biffen

[jnrmac 18,954]

5 hours ago, Biffen said:

I could not be bothered booing Houli.

His character referees actually highlighted his lack of character.

A .The PM saying nice things about him in order to get votes from an ethnic/ religious minority.A videoclip showing the granting of govt funding by Mal.

This was done without asking the office of the PM.

B.Waleed Aly ,known for his ability to confuse a situation and criticise  society for invisible slights inflicted upon him.Gob for hire.

Luckily the afl saw through this charade.

Jed Lamb is still ill. 

In August,Houli can get back to playing mediocre footy in the race to achieve 9th on the ladder for the worst run club in the AFL.

Anyone who "boos" Basher can go for their life- it's not a crime to boo a player in a sports stadium yet.

As with Goodes, it doesn't achieve much but a maelstrom of supposition on why people boo other people in a 24 hr sports media starving for a debate on society at large.

If Houli is roundly booed Im assuming it's because of the way his case was handled and that people booing don't like him.

Boo hoo.Too bad.So sad.

I'm really disturbed that you like Hall and Oates

[Wrecker45 3,378]

On 29/06/2017 at 6:19 PM, Nasher said:

Why would anyone boo him?

If Bugg gets a character reference from a PM (sitting or prior) and a Logie winner with minimal interest in football, I will booo him for the rest of his career.

 

[Wrecker45 3,378]

On 29/06/2017 at 9:57 PM, Sir Why You Little said:

Basher will be booed for a few weeks and then someone else will belt someone else and it will move on. 

 

What was that Nostradamus? 

I don't think anyone predicted it would happen so quickly.

[Nasher 33,047]

13 minutes ago, Wrecker45 said:

If Bugg gets a character reference from a PM (sitting or prior) and a Logie winner with minimal interest in football, I will booo him for the rest of his career.

 

I reckon it's academic anyway.  Can't see him pulling on an MFC jumper again personally.

[Sir Why You Little 34,443]

49 minutes ago, Wrecker45 said:

What was that Nostradamus? 

I don't think anyone predicted it would happen so quickly.

Only had to wait for the next game!!

[buck_nekkid 5,482]

46 minutes ago, Nasher said:

I reckon it's academic anyway.  Can't see him pulling on an MFC jumper again personally.

That's a big call- why do you think so?